This makes more sense to me because antisemitism is already covered by "no racism" but we all know leftists who browse this board think that you can't be racist against white people so we need to specify no antiwhiteness for the leftists.
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Anti-whiteness is racism and therefore doesn't need a distinction. We're not going to play by the left's rules. Racism is forbidden here - whatever race it's directed at.
As for lifting the ban on racism altogether, experience has shown us that if we remove that rule, the forum will immediately get completely taken over by the 1488'ers as well as leftist flase-flaggers.
The 1488ers, having been banned from everywhere else, rove around the internet looking for the one space that will have them and when they find it, they flood in en masse and overrun the place. If you're the one game in town that allows that shit, then that's all there will be here because ordinary conservatives will leave as they're not interested in associating with a racist forum. So you either ban it completely, or you let it take over the sub and chase everyone else away. There's never any middle ground, given the nomadic/homeless nature of that crowd. It's like opening your house to homeless people. Do that, and you'll be immediately overrun and the house's rightful inhabitants will have to leave.
This is the hand we've been dealt by social media banning racists wholesale. They've been been distilled from all the major platforms and concentrated into large, roving group homeless nomads, and small forums like this opening its doors to them means immediate and total takeover.
Besides, that stuff has never been what metacanada was about, and it's not going to be what omegacanada is about. Sorry.
I guess fixing it by changing it to No racism only would be a fair compromise.
Wouldn't 1488s be off-topic enough to just remove them for being so far off-topic? I mean if every post is a picture of a blonde girl and a swastika about saving the white race, that's not really Canadian focused at all and would probably fall under some sort of spam. If we're discussing Trudeau and immigration in a topic where a 1488 comes in and discusses how the white race has the best culture and we need to close the border to protect the white race. Could be a valid add to the discussion... There's a fine line between what is white supremacy and what is simply saying certain cultures/social structures are superior to others. You saw that recent black museum poster where they called getting ahead through hard-work as whiteness. If that's a white trait and a 1488 is discussing how hard-work is a great white trait... sounds like maybe they're onto something? I mean, a large proportion of leftists seems to think so anyway.
I suppose the likelihood of racism adding to a discussion is small but I think the reason for potentially removing the racism rule is to not allow for any racism definition creep. The left has proven racism can mean absolutely anything anyone wants it to mean to push a narrative and political position. When you have rules such as that you might as well just change the rules to "Whatever the mods feel like"; which isn't necessarily the worst thing, given that I think so far you mods are doing a fine job but you see the potential issue, yes?
The rule is already, quote: "No racism/antisemitism." Are you suggesting we drop the no antisemitism rule? Cuz that not going to happen, for the same reason I outlined above.
No because off-topic isn't a rule. We have no rules about being on-topic. You can discuss whatever you want here, short of the items explicitly prohibited by the rules (racism, antisemitism, doxxing, threats, illegality, bots & sketchy links). We also don't have rules against discussing non-Canadian content. This is a place for Canadians (and foreign friends/visotors) to discuss whatever they like within reason, not a place for discussion exclusively about Canadian issues. Half of our top scoring posts on metacanada were about international subjects.
Again, affording them that space would attract a deluge of them in here to attempt a takeover. We successfully repelled several such offensives against metacanada over the years and we know now that you have to either take a zero tolerance policy, or be conquered wholesale because as soon as you tell them there's a space where they're allowed, they all flood in en masse and take over.
I wish it weren't the case, and I don't even really blame them for trying, but that's the reality of the situation given the circumstances. It's either zero 1488'ers or all 1488ers. There's no in between. And we've fought too hard to keep the 1488ers from conquering our space and our brand over the years to just surrender it to them now.
Thanks I responded to him over there.
That's a horrible response and one I'd expect from a far leftist like spez.
Why would "anti-semitism" need a distinction and "anti-whiteness" does not?
The community can deal with "muh 1488ers" and false flags. Are you going to mod them? Are you going to stick their posts? How about you don't help them
Censorship is where the far left thrives. The fear of engaging anyone is how globalism got to spread so quickly in the past few decades.
Because people debate whether Jews are a "race" and by extention whether antsemitism is a form of racism. This clarifies it.
How? If the "community" weren't able to "deal with" them on metacanada, why would omegacanada be any different?
We're not going to turn this forum into racist/antiemitic 1488'er board.
It doesn't really clarify it. It adds to what your definition of "racism" is and your definition is not clear, nor is it a universal one.
Different community, dude. Reddit users are mostly far left. They had easy access to the subreddit because they already had the account. It's not the same as here.
You can say that all you want, but it means nothing. You're not even addressing what I said.
No racism.
No antisemitism.
Is that clear enough for you?