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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is semantics.

They open,y floated the idea through editorials in major newspapers calling for the imprisonment of the unvaccinated. These were trial balloons, which luckily were popped by the reality of the Honkening

Plus these same fuckers were in favor of absolute house arrests, and preventing the unvaxxed from accessing any health care.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's face it, nothing you say can match the spontaneous adoption of "tuchidiot" as a synonym for your brand of thinking. You will never be able to come up with as good of a comeback or coin a new word that is as succinct and derisive at the same time.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesnt matter what I say. Your tuchidiocy dismisses everything because you would be afraid to realize what you have done to yourself. Meanwhile a little baby turbocancer is taking its first steps.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

The succinct reply to your blahs is: Tuchidiocy!

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are setting up straw man arguments because of Tuchidiocy. I have not said they should be out of business. Frankly they are too big to fail plus their former executives regularly go work for government including the FDA, so they have protection. What I am saying is that you are a tuchidiot for getting the vaxx and you will be Darwined for it.

Regarding turbo cancers, try googling that as well as excess mortality which is up 20 percent over normal but only in countries with large vaxx adoption.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

So what makes you think that they have changed their fraudulent ways? Hmm. Probably nothing more than you were stupid enough to trust them, which makes you want to ignore this inconvenient fact.

And as for the vaccine not being experimental, only because the follow up trials were a joke by any standard of methodology and the excess mortality is being ignored. But its okay when you get a turbo cancer or a neurological disease like MS remember to ignore the elephant in the room.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

90 day trials before roll out. Lol. Do you think they would admit that they fucked up after the fact?

Pfizer received the biggest fine for criminal fraud in US history, in matters related to the marketing of its pharmaceuticals. That's quite an achievement, and you would trust them to inject you with a product they developed?

No one in their right mind would buy a car from a dealership with that kind of history, and yet they found a lot of tuchidiots to do it for a donut. This has to be the most hilarious precursor to a Darwin award ever.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

But do get an experimental vaxx from a pharma company convicted of criminal fraud and run by a veterinarian!

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

You'd be worshiping the guy if he were telling you to get your 12th booster

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

If a fetus is a human being it is wrong to inflict a death penalty on him or her and you cannot use the sins of their father to justify it.

The fact that you have to resort to conjuring up your Trump Bogey Man as some sort of argument shows just how ridiculous your position is.

Show me how the bad Orange Man penetrated you? Did he plant a little orange baby in your womb?

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

What a sad case of TDS you have. Now he is a rapist on top of a bleacher. What a mental cuck you are.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you accept that a baby is a human being, your equation does not add up. She does not have to keep the child. And in any event, the real question is does the child deserve to be murdered?

Would you deserve to be murdered for something that your father did?

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

I doubt he said it. No one could believe that a 1 year old could get pregnant. This is most likely the typical leftist fake news.

That aside, the issue of abortion in the case of rape is an interesting moral debate. Given that the baby is blameless does it deserve to be killed because of the actions of its father?

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

It amuses me to see the mental gymnastics that you sufferers of Trump Derangement Syndrome have to go through.

Regardless of whether there was an increase in drinking bleach, you cannot attribute it to Trump because he never told anyone to drink bleach. The transcript clearly shows otherwise. It is not a bullshit excuse it is a bullshit accusation on your part.

And consider this: if all you can be angry about with Trump are things that he did not do or say perhaps you are not thinking clearly. TDS is an awful thing. I hope you get better.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Buddy, you assume the statistics are valid. But even if they were these fools would have been misled by the intentionally false reporting in the media, since Trump never said to take bleach. If anything you should be blaming the media.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

I doubt people really did consume bleach. There was a murder where the wife tried to convince the police that her husband had taken aquarium bleach because of Trump and the media went wild and never corrected it even after the wife was arrested.

Plus the only way people might have been induced to take bleach would have been from the media mis-representing what he said. So if anyone is to blame it is the dishonest media.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Politico or NPR, both leftist propaganda tools, are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to Trump.

As far as the bleach hoax is concerned. This is what he actually said:

Trump spoke about the role he thought disinfectants could play in tackling an infection caused by the virus during a now infamous April 23 briefing. But he didn’t say people should drink bleach.

His comments came after William Bryan, the undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, presented a study that found sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces.

He then said:

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."

And

"....so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. "

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/13/fact-check-did-trump-tell-people-to-drink-bleach-to-kill-coronavirus/113754708/

Although the propaganda machine wants to make Trump sound like a madman, various medical companies have studied 1) the use of light such as UV to sterilize lungs of disease and 2) the use of disinfectant aerosols to kill bacteria and viruses in the lungs, both of which is what he was talking about.

For example, here is an article showing reduced covid viral load of patients treated with UV light inserted through the trachea: https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

Similarly, the delivery of aerosol disinfectants to treat lung disease is a proven and known technique: https://www.aarc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/aersol-guides-for-hcp.pdf

What Trump was talking about was picking up on the idea that light and disinfectants killed the virus and alluding to these delivery methods.

You'll also note that he expressly said that they would have to be delivered by medical personnel but the shameless propaganda whores turn this in an incitement to go drink bleach, when a few minutes of googling proves otherwise.

You should be worried about how unscrupulous the propaganda is, and how detached from reality it actually is. If they lie about these sorts of things they lie about everything. Hint: ivermectin might actually work.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

I doubt the statistic is even true. These are the same people who peddled the bullshit lie that Trump had recommended people take bleach. They really have no honor and do not feel tethered to reality at all.

Plus what is a five fold increase in calls? You are assuming it means people convulsing from the drug. But it can mean just inquiries about safe dosage, or have I fucked up because I hear that veterinarian who is incredibly the CEO of a human, convicted drug company, telling me I am going to die because I too it. These vague statistics are examples of how propagandists manipulate statistics to create alarm and shape a narrative. Note that even if there was a five fold increase ** in calls ** to poison control centers. there is no mention of there being an increase in deaths or complications or even an increase in the number of people attending emergency rooms, which suggests that the calls were so trivial that they did not require medical intervention.

In any case pharmaceuticals are poison in general. The fact that so much attention is being paid to ivermectin is because it is cheap and does not make profits for the drug companies the way other drugs or vaccines do. Keep in mind that over 100,000 Americans die each year from the side effects of correctly prescribed and correctly taken medications.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/health/daily/april98/drugs041598.htm

https://health.usnews.com/health-news/patient-advice/articles/2016-09-27/the-danger-in-taking-prescribed-medications

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except the formulations are the same. The dosage changes up or down for weight only, which is easily adjusted. But keep doing those mental gymnastics and inject yourself with a vaxx made by a criminally convicted company run by a veterinarian. Who's the horse now Ural

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're still not getting it: ivermectin was invented and first used on humans. It is human medicine. The fact it can be used in veterinarian medicine is typical of many other human medicines such as penicillin. Would you consider penicillin horse medicine because it is given to horses? And if not, why do you let pharma turn you into a propaganda tool when it comes to vermectin.

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