Cranbrook chief said yesterday, "It's our graveyard, we buried someone there last week. Why is anyone surprised that there are dead ppl in a graveyard?"
The Truth and Reconciliation report from 2015 already noted the number of children who passed away in residential schools and the locations they are likely buried in. One of the recommendations at that point already was to find the graves. People knew about this for ages, but everyone is acting like this is some new discovery of children who were literally murdered and dumped in unmarked graves when the cause of death in nearly all cases was diseases like tuberculosis and pneumonia due to bad nutrition and living conditions. On the flip side, my own grandfather had two siblings and both parents die of lung diseases in the 1930s. Those were very different times and beating with a strap occurred even in public schools until the 1970s.
Read up. Get educated.
But Liberals can't do that. Trudeau senior voted to keep the residential schools open in 1967 and continued the horrors for 30 years. While former PM Cretchien was minister of indigenous affairs.... WOOPS. Another liberal skeleton in the closet. When it first opened in 1830, the germ theory of disease hadn't been proven yet and wouldn't go to be proven for another 50 years later by Robert Koch, widespread until nearly 70 year later and put into building design 90 years later.
The early-schools were negligently and poorly designed because the science literally didn't exist and they were made at a time when the infant mortality rate for children under 5 years old was 497 out of every 1000 live-births. Tons of children died, almost 1 in 2....whether outside or inside a residential school.
In 1967...we knew better. Trudeau's father knew better. Chrétien knew better. Liberals didn't give a crap. When Trudeau says "All Canadians need to do better" what he really means is "Blame yourself, not my family."
This borrows heavily from my last article, 215 Dead bodies found. Here's the talking points, the main things to be aware of. I've tried to give credit to commenters where credit is due, pm me if I missed you, and I'll edit.
- No evidence of malnutrition can be found, no evidence of mistreatment can be found. Barely evidence of bodies can be found.
As u/KirbyMorph points out, "There is no proof of any bodies found. A random person they refuse to name used ground penetrating radar over course of several years to allegedly find these bodies. They refuse to provide any proof of these bodies or GPR. They didnt dig them up and identify them. They cant determine race or age from GPR. They can barely identify a skeleton using GPR (look up any images they produce if you want to verify). They can't determine how they died. These are all undocumented deaths."
The "ground penetrating radar" thing from the kamloops case was extremely suspect.
This is going to become the hot new meme, Indians using increasingly esoteric means to find fake dead kids in the ground. You will be a pariah for even asking questions about it.
We have unmarked graves where I am with thousands of bodies. It's a cholera pit. They just buried everyone in one big hole as quickly as possible.
Institutional graveyards existed on the grounds of such places, I'm sure the same can be said of boarding schools/schools for orphans and the like in Great Britain and France, etc, etc.
These sites were also known locally since they operated for almost a century, and would have been marked with wooden crosses. They keep calling them mass graves; well if it's a mass grave how do you count the graves using GPR? It's because the disturbances are separated by undisturbed soil. i.e. they are individual burials taking place at different times. These times include many pandemics where children were dying all over. People were dying all over, in fact, that still happens - people still die. And if it happens at say, a prison, where no family will claim the body, the body goes into a grave which is situated on some corner of the prison grounds.
- The news sells three things - hate, guilt, and fear. This capitalizes on two of them - namely, guilt and hate. People want to hate Christians, and the church. Selling hate is easy, people want to hate. But the guilt? People feel that pointing out "injustice" will assuage their own guilt and flagging self esteem. An older atheist, Friedrich Nietzsche pointed this out in "On the Genealogy of Morality"
*They monopolize virtue, these weak, hopelessly sick people, there is no doubt of it: ‘we alone are the good and just,’ they say, ‘we alone are homines bonae voluntatis.’
They walk among us as embodied reproaches, as warnings to us – as if health, well-constitutedness, strength, pride and sense of power were in themselves necessarily vicious things for which one must pay some day, and pay bitterly: how ready they themselves are at bottom to make one pay; how they crave to be hangmen."*
A Christian, CS Lewis, pointed this out in Mere Christianity - how to live in a world of pure hatred. He writes:
"Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one's first feeling, 'Thank God, even they aren't quite so bad as that,' or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything -- God and our friends and ourselves included -- as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred,"
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Trudeau’s dad was in power at the time. He supported this. He's just as evil and corrupt as his son.
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Imagine being in school in 1780. Childhood mortality is is 1/10 under good conditions.
You live in a shit hole native land that later Trudeau Sr will keep you banished to, limited supplies. Local childhood mortality without white people was 1/5.
You build a school.
Indians start dropping off kids at school and not picking them up, it's suddenly full of orphans.
Despite conditions school has 1/8 childhood mortality.
Educate an entire generation of children, due to medical technology a lot still die.
Bury the kids respectfully with wooden crosses as you are teachers not stone masons.
100s of years pass.
Some people dig up the graves.
oh heck, white people are terrible.
As u/risingtide points out - Tsimshian (northwest coast of BC) checking in, another thing that gets glossed over with this bullshit is that for a lot of natives the residential schools were a better option than living with your parents or other relatives that raped you on the regular, or prostituted you for drugs and alcohol. What my wife, her sisters and brothers, her mother, etc etc went through is horrific. What stopped it? White men removing them from the “homes”. Her one brother ended up molesting and raping some of our family and then recently blew his head off. The disease that came over with the early explorers, from livestock and men, wiped almost all of us out. Shit was already pretty rough, many of us kept slaves depending on status, we wiped out entire people’s and so on. What stopped that? White men. Middle class white chicks and broken men are the worst, the bullshit being spewed right now is unbearable.
Times weren't good. Even for the indigenous, they were regularly resorting to cannibalism at the time. - including forcing french settler to eat their own cooked children not long before. Read "A Narrative of the Adventures and Sufferings of John R. Jewitt"
As u/canadian2021 points out "I met a 90 year old couple a few weeks ago who still have a living memory of the residential schools. They said that parents of the children could not wait to send their kids off to school each year because it meant they didn't have to take care of them. It was basically a government sponsored free boarding school to them. Most of the time it was not RCMP officers showing up and taking all the kids away by force like the media is portraying it.
Sometimes the kids would show up to the schools with clothing that hadn't been changed in months. The nuns would have to peal them off, bath the children, and give them new cloths."
This is nothing new - In early CCP Western Taiwan, lots of people would drop off starving, horribly ill and clearly dying children at catholic/Christian churches/monasteries. It hardly needs pointing out that most of these children died. The CCP then turned the population against the churches with claims of child abduction, murder and spreading disease to children in an effort to destroy them or force them out of the country so they couldn't compete with them culturally. Many of the same people who dropped their kids off, on death's door, were among the ones were out for blood.
- They are unmarked but not undocumented. They are children who died from disease over the course of a century, given Christian burials. Not a single grave.
People forget how common it was to die of disease prior to the mid 20th century.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041751/canada-all-time-child-mortality-rate/
- Look up the origins of the word "Racism". The residential schools were started by anti-racists who believed it was wrong to just leave the Indians to their own devices.
"Where does one not encounter that veiled glance which burdens one with a profound sadness, that inward-turned glance of the born failure which betrays how such a man speaks to himself – that glance which is a sigh! ‘If only I were someone else,’ sighs this glance: ‘but there is no hope of that. I am who I am: how could I ever get free of myself? And yet – I am sick of myself!’
It is on such soil, on swampy ground, that every weed, every poisonous plant grows, always so small, so hidden, so false, so saccharine. Here the worms of vengefulness and rancor swarm; here the air stinks of secrets and concealment; here the web of the most malicious of all conspiracies is being spun constantly – the conspiracy of the suffering against the well-constituted and victorious, here the aspect of the victorious is hated. And what mendaciousness is employed to disguise that this hatred is hatred! What a display of grand words and postures, what an art of ‘honest’ calumny!
These failures: what noble eloquence flows from their lips! How much sugary, slimy, humble submissiveness swims in their eyes! What do they really want? At least to represent justice, love, wisdom, superiority – that is the ambition of the ‘lowest,’ the sick. And how skillful such an ambition makes them! Admire above all the forger’s skill with which the stamp of virtue, even the ring, the golden-sounding ring of virtue, is here counterfeited. They monopolize virtue, these weak, hopelessly sick people, there is no doubt of it: ‘we alone are the good and just,’ they say, ‘we alone are homines bonae voluntatis.’
They walk among us as embodied reproaches, as warnings to us – as if health, well-constitutedness, strength, pride and sense of power were in themselves necessarily vicious things for which one must pay some day, and pay bitterly: how ready they themselves are at bottom to make one pay; how they crave to be hangmen."
Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morality, c.1887
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It's amazing to me that for the last couple days Canadians have been mourning the state sponsored massacre of 215 children, yet then turn around and still say "We don't need a right to free speech or to bear arms. The government knows what's best for you and your children. The Police are your friends. Trust the state. Vote for more state power." It wasn't some priests showing up to reserves and stripping children away from their parents. It was the RCMP. Ordered to do so by the Federal government. That's what the state enforcers do, they follow the orders of the state. They're not magical ethical arbiters trained in philosophy of right and wrong, they're thugs who do whatever is told to them by the ones who pay their salary.
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According to all records, slavery and cannibalism were rampant at the time. “Maquinna is notable also for having kept European slaves on a number of occasions. The most detailed account is told in the writings of John R. Jewitt, one of two slaves kept for several years after the crew of the ship Boston was massacred by Maquinna and his men. A Narrative of the Adventures and Sufferings of John R. Jewitt, only survivor of the crew of the ship Boston, during a captivity of nearly three years among the savages of Nootka Sound: with an account of the manners, mode of living, and religious opinions of the natives is one of the first published glimpses into the social and cultural life of the Pacific Northwest peoples. Jewitt refers to Maquinna throughout as "king" and those beneath him as "chiefs". Maquinna required Jewitt to learn the Nuu-chah-nulth language, and told him that the ship Boston was taken in response to several depredations committed by earlier American and Spanish visitors. Jewitt was rescued in 1805 by Samuel Hill, captain of the brig Lydia.”
Check out the cannibalistic details at https://i.imgur.com/InzlPVI.png
The Narrative also describes an earlier, less fortunate, group of European slaves who were eventually sentenced to death by Maquinna after they attempted to escape to the lands of the Tla-o-qui-aht (Clayoquot) whose chief was Maquinna's rival, Wickaninnish. The one slave who had not tried to escape was eventually sold to Chief Wickaninnish and reportedly died shortly after hearing of the taking of the Boston.
- It's true. It's true that people were buried outside of an institution, just like it's true of any prison, asylum, etc. in all of western history. 215 isn’t that many over 90+ years of operation when you take into account typical child mortality of the time.
