He gets to maintain the illusion that the PPC is a legitimate party actually running in elections, which keeps the donation cheques rolling in (as long as his supporters aren't smart enough to cue in to the fact that he's running in by-elections he knows he can never win).
From those donations he pays himself $100k a year as his "party leader" salary.
And as a fringe benefit, he gets to deny the CPC another seat and laugh at them (and Canada) while he rolls around in the cash he bilked his chump supporters out of.
This is like trying to convince scientologists that L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud and they're being taken for a ride. They're completely oblivious to the evidence all around them, and they're completely immune to reason. Indeed they react to reason and evidence with hostility and vitriol.
Maybe they should not of stole the leadership from him?
Oh, so because he's asshurt that he lost a leadership race, that makes it right for him to condemn Canada to perpetual Trudeau rule? Are you fucked in the head?
I respect you a lot for running this site, but do you honestly think the CPC are "conservative" in any meaningful sense anymore? I can't be bothered to feel sorry for them. Bernier may be a spoiler and a sore-loser, but I wouldn't vote for the CPC anymore regardless.
Yup. Those were two previously safe LPC ridings. The CPC narrowed the LPC's lead over them by about ten points in each riding.
That's bad news for Justin. That kind of ten point shift projected nationwide puts the CPC in safe majority territory.
I get the whole "PpC iS sTeaLiNG voTeS!" Thing, but honestly fuck the CPC. I'd obviously rather have the CPC that the LPC but only marginally.
O'Toole wants to flood us with immigrants. He wants to carry on what can only ne described as liberal policies. I vote for who I believe most closely aligns with my values. PPC has such a solid platform. I just wish Bernier would put more effort into trying to not seem like a fringe populist party. Their platform is common sense (or should be considered as such)
I hope the PPC keeps grinding it out. People like me will vote for them. Roots will spread. Look at the other side of the aisle. The greens were a fringe party for a long time until eventually they started getting seats. There are enough people that said fuck the NDP, fuck the LPC, this is who I want. They have momentum. Every election they get more donations and more votes . They are second place in Toronto center. The PPC can get there too, and much further. As long as they keep pointing out why things keep getting shittier (leftist globalist policies). I'm not going to castrate myself and vote CPC so I can have a nicer master.
PPC should not look to the Greens as an example. they have 3 seats in parliament, who cares. Reform party is the best case PPC should look forward to. Canada won't be a country if PPC are on pace to become the new green party in 30 yrs.
Im not at all saying to emulate them, I'm saying people shouldnt be afraid to vote for them. Once people see them get enough votes we'll hit critical mass and things will start happening.
Edit:
Also I hate to say it but the greens have momentum. I bet we will see more of them in the near future in BC especially but probably parts of Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes. People that hate progress and a functioning economy love the greens.
Give it up for the spoiler parties ruining the best laid plans of mice and men.
In the revenge against the CPC game, Bernier fucked up their plans to run an international money Filipino and the Liberal's rich Israeli is winning by slightly less votes than he lured away.
In the "fuck you, there's only enough votes for one crazy leftist party" game, we have the NDP refusing to extend the same courtesy that the Greens extended to Jagmeet Singh and running a candidate who took away just enough votes to ensure that the Liberal ex-race baiting-journalist got the win.
Liberals are going to luck into both seats.
The Greens and the CPC are going to be fucking furious about tonight.
(As of this comment ) Liberals and Conservatives basically tied (CPC: 1,965 votes / LPC 1,956 votes - 9 vote spread), meanwhile the PPC is holding 176 votes.
If the Liberals beat the Conservatives by fewer votes than the PPC received, that will mean the PPC accomplished absolutely nothing but to hand a seat to the Liberals. That's how they're traitors. They're doing Justin's work for him.
This logic assumes 100% of PPC voters would always vote for the CPC if at all if the PPC did not exist, which there’s no way of knowing for sure so it’s silly to always make that assumption. No party is entitled to have voters support them.
Cons up in York right now is a great sign! Max has 3.9%...
Which will gain him nothing, but could very well hand the Liberals a seat.
As someone who voted PPC, i agree, I questioned why Max would run in this seat when he had no chance.
This.
He gets to maintain the illusion that the PPC is a legitimate party actually running in elections, which keeps the donation cheques rolling in (as long as his supporters aren't smart enough to cue in to the fact that he's running in by-elections he knows he can never win).
From those donations he pays himself $100k a year as his "party leader" salary.
And as a fringe benefit, he gets to deny the CPC another seat and laugh at them (and Canada) while he rolls around in the cash he bilked his chump supporters out of.
This is like trying to convince scientologists that L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud and they're being taken for a ride. They're completely oblivious to the evidence all around them, and they're completely immune to reason. Indeed they react to reason and evidence with hostility and vitriol.
Because this whole PPC thing was only ever about hurting the CPC. Petty revenge for not giving him the big chair. That much should be obvious by now.
Oh, so because he's asshurt that he lost a leadership race, that makes it right for him to condemn Canada to perpetual Trudeau rule? Are you fucked in the head?
I respect you a lot for running this site, but do you honestly think the CPC are "conservative" in any meaningful sense anymore? I can't be bothered to feel sorry for them. Bernier may be a spoiler and a sore-loser, but I wouldn't vote for the CPC anymore regardless.
Canadians condemn Canada to perpetual Trudeau rule.
Run candidates where the vote isn’t splittable. Running a candidate in Toronto serves only his ego.
Besides. What if a PPC actually wins? Does max take their seat, or do they become leader?
Good point.
May’s not much of a leader though, to be fair.
Well Justin is a little less confident in a federal election right now.
Yup. Those were two previously safe LPC ridings. The CPC narrowed the LPC's lead over them by about ten points in each riding.
That's bad news for Justin. That kind of ten point shift projected nationwide puts the CPC in safe majority territory.
I get the whole "PpC iS sTeaLiNG voTeS!" Thing, but honestly fuck the CPC. I'd obviously rather have the CPC that the LPC but only marginally.
O'Toole wants to flood us with immigrants. He wants to carry on what can only ne described as liberal policies. I vote for who I believe most closely aligns with my values. PPC has such a solid platform. I just wish Bernier would put more effort into trying to not seem like a fringe populist party. Their platform is common sense (or should be considered as such)
I hope the PPC keeps grinding it out. People like me will vote for them. Roots will spread. Look at the other side of the aisle. The greens were a fringe party for a long time until eventually they started getting seats. There are enough people that said fuck the NDP, fuck the LPC, this is who I want. They have momentum. Every election they get more donations and more votes . They are second place in Toronto center. The PPC can get there too, and much further. As long as they keep pointing out why things keep getting shittier (leftist globalist policies). I'm not going to castrate myself and vote CPC so I can have a nicer master.
Lol thanks. I understand where you're coming from but I'd like to work towards something better than the CPC as it currently stands.
PPC should not look to the Greens as an example. they have 3 seats in parliament, who cares. Reform party is the best case PPC should look forward to. Canada won't be a country if PPC are on pace to become the new green party in 30 yrs.
Im not at all saying to emulate them, I'm saying people shouldnt be afraid to vote for them. Once people see them get enough votes we'll hit critical mass and things will start happening.
Edit: Also I hate to say it but the greens have momentum. I bet we will see more of them in the near future in BC especially but probably parts of Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes. People that hate progress and a functioning economy love the greens.
Liberals.... god Canadians are fucking stupid.
Once the bottom falls out on the economic shithole that is Canada, hold on tight.
Weimar Germany 2.0 coming our way.
It doesn't even fucking matter if a Lib, Dipper or Con gets elected. (most Con MPs are 'conservative' in name only)
Look at that retarded fuck Doug Ford. He does the best Liberal premier impression I have ever seen.
With people like him around, it makes me wonder how anyone in this godforsaken clogged toilet of a nation operates with such little brain power.
Its not JUST 'Ontar-io', its Ontar-WE ALL OWE
Give it up for the spoiler parties ruining the best laid plans of mice and men.
In the revenge against the CPC game, Bernier fucked up their plans to run an international money Filipino and the Liberal's rich Israeli is winning by slightly less votes than he lured away.
In the "fuck you, there's only enough votes for one crazy leftist party" game, we have the NDP refusing to extend the same courtesy that the Greens extended to Jagmeet Singh and running a candidate who took away just enough votes to ensure that the Liberal ex-race baiting-journalist got the win.
Liberals are going to luck into both seats.
The Greens and the CPC are going to be fucking furious about tonight.
Acceleration baby, let’s go. Couldn’t care less about vote splitting.
Toronto centre and it’s a dead heat between the conservatives and the liberals?
No, York Centre is a dead heat. Toronto Crentre is fairly safe LPC, with Greens in second place (by 6 points).
Fat fingered it again!
Looks like Libs gonna win this one
This could definitely piss off a lot of patriots within this country.
Well would you look at that:
https://enr.elections.ca/ElectoralDistricts.aspx?ed=2265&lang=e
(As of this comment ) Liberals and Conservatives basically tied (CPC: 1,965 votes / LPC 1,956 votes - 9 vote spread), meanwhile the PPC is holding 176 votes.
If the Liberals beat the Conservatives by fewer votes than the PPC received, that will mean the PPC accomplished absolutely nothing but to hand a seat to the Liberals. That's how they're traitors. They're doing Justin's work for him.
This logic assumes 100% of PPC voters would always vote for the CPC if at all if the PPC did not exist, which there’s no way of knowing for sure so it’s silly to always make that assumption. No party is entitled to have voters support them.
True but the way the margin currently is right now (CPC down 100, and max having 368 votes) its hard to imagine 1/3 of PPC voters wouldn't vote CPC.
LOLOL!