Smallpox is a deadly disease that has a 30% risk of fatality. After a massive campaign of vaccination undertaken by the World Health Organization and world governments, smallpox was eradicated by 1975. Yet, how many people here have gotten the smallpox vaccine? Many babies and children were given the vaccine in the mid 20th century, but if you belong to the 18-40 demographic, it is likely you were not inoculated against this deadly disease. But what is the sense in getting inoculated if the disease has been eliminated? Well, there have been instances of smallpox leaking from the lab that led to fatalities. What about hepatitis? Before the pandemic, I got a call from my doctor alerting me that my hepatitis vaccination needed a top-up, as I only got it about 16 years ago in middle school. I got the first of three shots but couldn't get the remaining ones because clinics stopped taking non-emergency patients. I will probably need to start over from the first shot.
But do we mandate smallpox or hepatitis vaccines? Well, we do mandate hepatitis vaccines for schoolchildren, but to my knowledge we do not in fact mandate vaccination in adults except in special cases where it may be necessary for their line of work (ie military, business trips to certain regions, etc). We do not mandate a hepatitis vaccine to go to a restaurant or to work in the office, despite the fact that these diseases are so deadly.
The point I am trying to get at is that we have lived with pathogens much more dangerous than covid-19, and we continue to be at risk of many of these pathogens. Yet in no time in our history have governments taken such draconian measures in response to the risk from those pathogens. You don't need an anthrax vaccine or a smallpox vaccine to travel, to eat at a restaurant, to go to work, yet for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate you will be forced to have written proof of vaccination. You will be forced to risk taking a vaccine that may have deadlier side effects than the disease it is meant to treat.
Smallpox was not eradicated by vaccines. One of the medical profession’s greatest boasts is that it eradicated smallpox through the use of the smallpox vaccine. I myself believed this claim for many years. But it simply isn’t true.
One of the worst smallpox epidemics of all time took place in England between 1870 and 1872 – nearly two decades after compulsory vaccination was introduced. After this evidence that smallpox vaccination didn’t work the people of Leicester in the English midlands refused to have the vaccine any more. When the next smallpox epidemic struck in the early 1890s the people of Leicester relied upon good sanitation and a system of quarantine. There was only one death from smallpox in Leicester during that epidemic. In contrast the citizens of other towns (who had been vaccinated) died in vast numbers.
Obligatory vaccination against smallpox was introduced in Germany in around 1816, largely as a result of state by-laws, but these vaccination programmes had no influence on the incidence of the disease. On the contrary, the smallpox epidemic continued to grow and in 1870 the war with France led to the gravest smallpox epidemic in Germany history. At that point the new German Reich introduced a new national law making vaccination against smallpox an even stricter legal requirement. The police were given the power to enforce the new law.
German doctors (and medical students) are taught that it was the Reich Vaccination Law which led to a dramatic reduction in the incidence of smallpox in Germany. But a close look at the figures shows that the incidence of smallpox had already started to fall before the law came into action. And the legally enforced national smallpox vaccination programme did not eradicate the disease.
Doctors and drug companies may not like it but the truth is that surveillance, quarantine and better living conditions got rid of smallpox – not the smallpox vaccine.
When the World Health Organization campaign to rid the world of smallpox was at its height the number of cases of smallpox went up each time there was a large scale (and expensive) mass vaccination of populations in susceptible countries. As a result of this the WHO changed its strategy. Mass vaccination programmes were abandoned and replaced with surveillance, isolation and quarantine.
For example, in the 1960s Sierra Leone had the highest rate of smallpox in the world. The country got rid of smallpox in just over a year – largely by the simple process of identifying and isolating patients with the disease.
The myth that smallpox was eradicated through a mass vaccination programme is just that – a myth.
It is worth pointing out that Edward Jenner, widely feted as the inventor of the smallpox vaccine, tried out the first smallpox vaccination on his own 10 month old son. His son remained mentally retarded until his death at the age of 21. Jenner refused to have his second child vaccinated.
You can simply look at vaccination introduction dates, when it became mandatory in various areas and compare it to the death and infection rates. Every time they made the vaccine mandatory, smallpox outbreaks occur and are worse than ever experienced. As sanitation and living standards improved, smallpox rates fell worldwide. It's the same for virtually everything we vaccinate against - all were practically wiped out before the vaccines are introduced.
But it is fake news. There are nuggets of truth scattered in there but overall it is fiction. Don't be so gullible.
This is ridiculous. Complete fake news.
Source: I have a Master of Public Health with Specialization in Epidemiology
What remaining ones? The Hep A/B vaccine consists of three shots.
Hep kills you slowly if you get it. It will take a decade or more to kill you. Covid can kill you way faster. And for Smallpox. You already mentioned it, but Smallpox is eradicated. And it was eradicated in Canada through a mandatory vaccination as far as I know. Smallpox was eradicated in Canada in 1946. But people were still vaccinated for it till the late 70s. 30 years after the eradication. My parents got Smallpox shots and both, my father and mother, were born years after the last confirmed Smallpox case in Canada.
This isn't to argue for a mandatory Covid vaccine. I just wanted to point out some fallacies in your argument.
Also, it seems Covid is more easily transmissible than hepatitis. So you should work that into the argument.
I mean isn't the fatality rate comparable to influenza though? Maybe that would be a more relevant comparison than smallpox.
Why isn't influenza vaccine mandatory, but the covid vaccine will be? I am not anti-vaxx but I don't feel comfortable getting a vaccine for something that I will probably easily recover from, when the vaccine has been rushed through and is based on technologies that have not been tested in human subjects until now. There have been cases where expects were wrong with disastrous results.
It appears influenza is more lethal for younger people than Covid. And Covid is worse for older people. Many, perhaps most people, simply don’t understand how bad flu can be. I think many get a light case of the flu or even a bad cold and think they’ve had the flu. When it hits full force it is terrible. Problem is the media has made such a show out of Covid it’s hard to get any points across in a rational manner. As soon as you mention flu and Covid together you get accused of spreading misinformation etc. Once we have more data influenza will probably be the right point of comparison.
Yeah I got the first of the three shots. You need to take the second one something like 3 or 4 months after (that's what the doctor told me). Then they locked everything down and doctors wouldn't take patients so I missed the time to take the next dose. And I think it won't work if I don't take all of them so I guess I need to start from the beginning when things open up?
For Hep B you get three shots. You get the first one, the second one after a month and the third after six months. That's how it worked for me. And since the Hep B vaccine might not work, you can take a blood test to make sure you're immunized.
But it could be that you got a vaccine from a different pharma company. Maybe yours has more than three shots. Just look it up online.