Is there a way around this besides leaving? How can they make it so the only way we can come back to work is being vaccinated? they haven't made it official yet but said they are thinking about it which makes me more curious how they can force it. the nurse my mom talked to on the phone when setting up her shot told her the shot only helps you fight if off not spread so if thats true why does it matter if other people are vaccinated.
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You can refuse based off human rights grounds or medical history.
IIRC correctly though, an employer can now give you indefinite leave if you refuse vaccination under the Ontario ESA.
You can also give your employer an indefinite leave from doing business if they fuck around with you. I believe this is under the "fuck with me and I fuck your shit up big-time" law that was passed by Mother Nature many millions of years ago. You might want to look for another job first though.
They sure can! I have that saved somewhere but you’re right
Can’t fire you but they can send you home without pay until you get vaccinated
I think it’s a new rule?
These are awful choices we are all making. You might have to change jobs or start a business. But you won't be the only one. We can't live like this - we just can't allow this.
The few actual men left in society (if there are any) will destroy everything before allowing this bullshit. Zero society is better than sicko society.
It has to be a "Bonafide job requirement", i.e working in healthcare. Some random office job doesn't count.
No they can do this, were all fucked.
https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/infectious-disease-emergency-leave#section-2
The employee is under a direction given by their employer in response to the employer’s concern that the employee might expose other individuals in the workplace to a designated infectious disease. The ESA does not require employers to pay employees during that time.
Thats fucked I'm 20 years old completely healthy idk why people like me are being forced to taking it(which im still not going too) i still havent even responded to my bosses text because idk what to say or what to do she hasnt made it official but i think its because shes waiting till she has to or something i work at a restaurant so the government might have a bigger stick up their asses about that stuff i wanna just tell her im not getting the vaccine and is there any way around it that i can still come back but im expecting just to get fired off that really. sucks because i was making good money for the last two years and now im bout to be making 0
So you can continue to "work" there but can't actually go to work or get paid.
First of all, "the nurse my mom talked to" might as well be "the girl behind the counter at McDonalds". So whatever 'authoritative' information you think you have from that source is not even worth mentioning.
Second of all, who gives a fuck what the benefits to yourself or society are. By arguing in that context, you've already lost. Even if this vax saves the world overnight, do you think it is proper for your EMPLOYER to be able to command you to put something into your body? Do you think your employer has any say in your health-care decisions at all?
Don't fucking argue pros/cons of the vax at all with your employer. That is surrendering the encompassing issue of whether they have any standing AT ALL in the discussion to begin with.
This isn't fucking elementary school here, you don't have to put up with bullying.
Worst case scenario, you can do things outside of the law to make this a very very impractical path for your employer to pursue. With minimal risk. Think creatively and be bold. Protip: these masks are an excellent way to strategically conceal your identity in our modern surveillance society. Just make sure you also wear clothing that you normally don't go out in.
you clearly misread the "my mom talked to a nurse" was not some fake nurse friend it was her setting up her shot actually talking to a nurse at a hospital... which proves my point because my mom is a huge CNN head and the nurse essentially had to tell her the vaccine doesn't work the way the news is telling her and its only purpose is to fight off the virus not stop any kind of spread. so me already knowing that before hand and it being sad by the people setting up her shot why would be getting mandated get off your high horse looking for problems its wack