They have treatment plants. They don't maintain them. They want help but don't you dare step on the reserves. Time to cut them the fuck off and let them sink or swim. Canadians have paid enough. Soon whites will be a visable minority and the people being brought in to replace us won't give a fuck about some treaties or indians
No one cares about First Nations, all of this is being used to grandstand politically and to pull at the heartstrings of ignorant middle class Canadians
The left is not interested in 'progress' or 'away forward' they will look for 'oppression' everywhere and use it like a club to harass their political opponents.
Equality isn't the goal. Totalitarianism is the goal.
"Believe me these topics have all been heard of and discussed ad nauseam"
from my own personal experience, there is a severe lack of education about Ontario aboriginals in our community.
=ontario peoples are usually surprised that to this day many places in Canada do not have consumable water.
"The solutions you give are also what is typically suggested and already done, namely giving the Aboriginals more of White People's wealth."
I actually emphasized the fact that Canada probably cannot afford it and did my best to constantly provide solutions that were money free(other than the already promised clean water fund)
"You talk of the church/states having to show some accountability or relations will break down more. They already have continually given resources and acknowledgement to these issues and relations have only gotten worse."
On May 29, 2017, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau met with His Holiness Pope Francis at the Vatican. During this meeting, the Prime Minister formally asked the Pope deliver a papal apology for the Catholic Church's role in Indian Residential Schools.
On March 28, 2018 the Prime Minister received a letter from a senior representative of the Catholic Church in Canada, which stated that Pope Francis would not issue an apology. The Prime Minister told reporters that, "obviously I am disappointed in the Catholic Church's decision not to apologize for their role in residential schools." The Government of Canada will continue to advocate for a papal apology.
we already know where he stands at the moment but right now relations are at their lowest. graceful goodwill is never a bad idea in my opinion.
"They can't live up to the standards, be it clean water, or behaving in ways that they don't succumb to violence at the same rate as the national average."
on page 6 you will find a statement saying that a mining company destroyed an acid plant canada negotiated the construction of causing long lasting and widespread poison to their land and water. there are many instances of abuse like this making it harder and harder to live throughout Canadian history such as the 60's scoop.
"Implying that Whites don't care because they aren't Aboriginals, after all our bending over backwards, is an insult, a slap in the face."
I mean you did just say this ...... " At the end of the day, Aboriginals cannot be fixed. Problem is genetic"
this was not for school this is a personal project however it has been completely censored on most Canadian owned and operated forums.
something about not being allowed to survey there unless your the Canadian government.
I feel like we are touching issues of different mentality
I would like to propose a theory. instead of looking down on the least privileged like the 2/3rds of the world who live in squater citys.
if we were to help every single country and nation to the same technological and economic levels as the most privileged. for both better and worse. i believe that the majority of the earth's growing deficiency would start to disappear.
I also believe that with their self-sustainability would come many times the number of man-hours dedicated to things like research and development of anything really.
firstly i did already revise that quote earlier in my new link at the bottom.
secondly, I do believe Canada has provided a lot of your mentioned "tributes" towards humanitarian aid of indigenous people just as they do globally with I believe nearly every crisis and tragity small and large
i feel that my writings were pretty misunderstood, some of your comments on how I was thinking were very far off from what I intended to write. although I do not agree with quite a few things that were said I will still take the time to try and source an argument for anything I feel could use correction.
other things that were said I will ignore completely.
I think you will find, of those of us who are old enough, we have witnessed countless reparations put into play. We have also witnessed successful reserves and utter abuse of funds by other reserves.
I've also spent many years amongst aboriginal people. Partly due to my Acadian/Indian portion in my family line and going to University with students who did receive scholarships.
In my era, the 90's, many aboriginals in University left reserves and never looked back at the abuse they received from their own. They weren't shy in describing the horrors they endured from their own.
If you believe that freebies will solve aboriginal problems, look no further than generational welfare families. Those White families in that cycle perpetuate abuse, of every variety, upon themselves as well.
Self Reflection should be a significant part of Aboriginal Culture. Accountability of corrupt Chief's and individual actions should be another.
If you think the general white population has it so much better, you're mistaken and ignoring another group's perspective entirely.
Look long enough at all "races" and you will find they are all tribal, they are all fucked up and all have good and bad attributes and history.
Welcome to the shared experience of humanity. It's both wretched and beautiful at the same time.
I think you will find, of those of us who are old enough, we have witnessed countless reparations put into play. We have also witnessed successful reserves and utter abuse of funds by other reserves."" a wonderful statment and completely agreed
If you believe that freebies will solve aboriginal problems, look no further than generational welfare families. Those White families in that cycle perpetuate abuse, of every variety, upon themselves as well"""
my proposed solutions were not based around handouts. it was based around education that would help a severe need of housing and mental health workers.
it also pivoted around rebuilding relations and trust.
i mentioned issues that were in my eyes extremely important for anyone. if anyone in Canada had no water and terrible housing i would advocate for them
If you think the general white population has it so much better, you're mistaken and ignoring another group's perspective entirely.
""I don't think it's very moral to compare the two anyways. it's complicated and messy. to say that anyone in need globally is not worth helping.......
thanks for all of the words. they are helping me refine and polish this. both of you have has wonderful points that made me revise certain areas
There are many poor white communities in NS that don't have usable water. NS has very harsh ground water.
• the eskasoni have grieved this and actually have better facilities than some rural white communities.
• the eskasoni, amongst other tribes in Nova Scotia, are also doing well enough to actually create large scale development on their reserves that rivals many towns in NS.
• Millbrook First Nation reserve in Truro and Glooscap First Nation reserve in Kings County NS are prime examples of successful endeavors made by First Nations.
• St. Mary's First Nation reserve in Fredericton is another off the top of my head.
A notable event, that remains fairly unacknowledged by First Nations.
• Moose in the past, were hunted to extinction in Nova Scotia, purely in spite by some First Nations persons in that time period.
there were points made earlier that I did not find relevant to the few issues already proposed for the basic needs of indigenous people. in order to be more concise and to avoid irrelevant squabbling.
also, I only commented on anything I had prior research and knowledge of to avoid misinformation.
oops thats the roughest draft this link is cleaner : https://shrib.com/#GreaterRhea2KmrlP4
please help me spread this all effort opinions and advice is greatly needed
a newer draft revised slightly all over and made to appear less "surveyish" to allow posting on relevant forums https://shrib.com/#Alma795BeQv
They have treatment plants. They don't maintain them. They want help but don't you dare step on the reserves. Time to cut them the fuck off and let them sink or swim. Canadians have paid enough. Soon whites will be a visable minority and the people being brought in to replace us won't give a fuck about some treaties or indians
Things to remember:
No one cares about First Nations, all of this is being used to grandstand politically and to pull at the heartstrings of ignorant middle class Canadians
The left is not interested in 'progress' or 'away forward' they will look for 'oppression' everywhere and use it like a club to harass their political opponents.
Equality isn't the goal. Totalitarianism is the goal.
"Believe me these topics have all been heard of and discussed ad nauseam"
from my own personal experience, there is a severe lack of education about Ontario aboriginals in our community. =ontario peoples are usually surprised that to this day many places in Canada do not have consumable water.
"The solutions you give are also what is typically suggested and already done, namely giving the Aboriginals more of White People's wealth."
I actually emphasized the fact that Canada probably cannot afford it and did my best to constantly provide solutions that were money free(other than the already promised clean water fund)
"You talk of the church/states having to show some accountability or relations will break down more. They already have continually given resources and acknowledgement to these issues and relations have only gotten worse."
On May 29, 2017, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau met with His Holiness Pope Francis at the Vatican. During this meeting, the Prime Minister formally asked the Pope deliver a papal apology for the Catholic Church's role in Indian Residential Schools.
On March 28, 2018 the Prime Minister received a letter from a senior representative of the Catholic Church in Canada, which stated that Pope Francis would not issue an apology. The Prime Minister told reporters that, "obviously I am disappointed in the Catholic Church's decision not to apologize for their role in residential schools." The Government of Canada will continue to advocate for a papal apology.
source: https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1524504325663/1557513116819
we already know where he stands at the moment but right now relations are at their lowest. graceful goodwill is never a bad idea in my opinion.
"They can't live up to the standards, be it clean water, or behaving in ways that they don't succumb to violence at the same rate as the national average."
https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/thesescanada/vol2/002/NR81496.PDF
on page 6 you will find a statement saying that a mining company destroyed an acid plant canada negotiated the construction of causing long lasting and widespread poison to their land and water. there are many instances of abuse like this making it harder and harder to live throughout Canadian history such as the 60's scoop.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/f545d93082d24547b5100784b709c303/page/page_0/?views=view_1 a heatmap of all crimes against Canadian indigenous peoples. if it were a behavior thing causing people to murder and abduct them would it be so isolated. ofcourse its not proof but its interesting non the less
"Implying that Whites don't care because they aren't Aboriginals, after all our bending over backwards, is an insult, a slap in the face." I mean you did just say this ...... " At the end of the day, Aboriginals cannot be fixed. Problem is genetic"
this was not for school this is a personal project however it has been completely censored on most Canadian owned and operated forums.
something about not being allowed to survey there unless your the Canadian government.
https://shrib.com/#GreaterRhea2KmrlP4
I feel like we are touching issues of different mentality
I would like to propose a theory. instead of looking down on the least privileged like the 2/3rds of the world who live in squater citys. if we were to help every single country and nation to the same technological and economic levels as the most privileged. for both better and worse. i believe that the majority of the earth's growing deficiency would start to disappear. I also believe that with their self-sustainability would come many times the number of man-hours dedicated to things like research and development of anything really.
firstly i did already revise that quote earlier in my new link at the bottom.
secondly, I do believe Canada has provided a lot of your mentioned "tributes" towards humanitarian aid of indigenous people just as they do globally with I believe nearly every crisis and tragity small and large
on a side note the restitution money your talking about was never really received in full the indigenous people have requested it and it was denied by Canada due to lack of funds, no hard feelings from me there. the solution is more than financial. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cash-back-report-investigates-what-restitution-for-indigenous-land-theft-could-look-like-1.5430567
for the Canadian government to destroy their economy in the process is ridiculous.
do you have any ideas on what kind of aid would feel appropriate to you?
i feel that my writings were pretty misunderstood, some of your comments on how I was thinking were very far off from what I intended to write. although I do not agree with quite a few things that were said I will still take the time to try and source an argument for anything I feel could use correction. other things that were said I will ignore completely.
I think you will find, of those of us who are old enough, we have witnessed countless reparations put into play. We have also witnessed successful reserves and utter abuse of funds by other reserves.
I've also spent many years amongst aboriginal people. Partly due to my Acadian/Indian portion in my family line and going to University with students who did receive scholarships.
In my era, the 90's, many aboriginals in University left reserves and never looked back at the abuse they received from their own. They weren't shy in describing the horrors they endured from their own.
If you believe that freebies will solve aboriginal problems, look no further than generational welfare families. Those White families in that cycle perpetuate abuse, of every variety, upon themselves as well.
Self Reflection should be a significant part of Aboriginal Culture. Accountability of corrupt Chief's and individual actions should be another.
If you think the general white population has it so much better, you're mistaken and ignoring another group's perspective entirely.
Look long enough at all "races" and you will find they are all tribal, they are all fucked up and all have good and bad attributes and history.
Welcome to the shared experience of humanity. It's both wretched and beautiful at the same time.
I think you will find, of those of us who are old enough, we have witnessed countless reparations put into play. We have also witnessed successful reserves and utter abuse of funds by other reserves."" a wonderful statment and completely agreed
If you believe that freebies will solve aboriginal problems, look no further than generational welfare families. Those White families in that cycle perpetuate abuse, of every variety, upon themselves as well""" my proposed solutions were not based around handouts. it was based around education that would help a severe need of housing and mental health workers. it also pivoted around rebuilding relations and trust. i mentioned issues that were in my eyes extremely important for anyone. if anyone in Canada had no water and terrible housing i would advocate for them
If you think the general white population has it so much better, you're mistaken and ignoring another group's perspective entirely. ""I don't think it's very moral to compare the two anyways. it's complicated and messy. to say that anyone in need globally is not worth helping.......
thanks for all of the words. they are helping me refine and polish this. both of you have has wonderful points that made me revise certain areas
Additional info,
There are many poor white communities in NS that don't have usable water. NS has very harsh ground water.
• the eskasoni have grieved this and actually have better facilities than some rural white communities.
• the eskasoni, amongst other tribes in Nova Scotia, are also doing well enough to actually create large scale development on their reserves that rivals many towns in NS.
• Millbrook First Nation reserve in Truro and Glooscap First Nation reserve in Kings County NS are prime examples of successful endeavors made by First Nations.
• St. Mary's First Nation reserve in Fredericton is another off the top of my head.
A notable event, that remains fairly unacknowledged by First Nations.
• Moose in the past, were hunted to extinction in Nova Scotia, purely in spite by some First Nations persons in that time period.
Perspective is important. The good and the bad.
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there were points made earlier that I did not find relevant to the few issues already proposed for the basic needs of indigenous people. in order to be more concise and to avoid irrelevant squabbling.
also, I only commented on anything I had prior research and knowledge of to avoid misinformation.