Yah, I don't know how old you are but CTV, our health officials and our Government are not using science in any form in any of this.
For many, many decades we have been taught that the introduction of treatment produces the change required for notable stronger mutations.
ie. Overuse of penicillin will create mutations that resist penicillin.
ie. A person who recovers without the use of penicillin will not result in a notable mutation because nothing new is introduced to the virus to mutate from.
ie. The use of PREP to prevent HIV infection lists the risk of creating a mutation of HIV if HIV is contracted while using it.
ie. Those who use PREP are required to test for HIV regularly to ensure this mutation does not occur to limit the creation of an enhanced PREP resistant HIV. Those on PREP are immediately taken off PREP if they develope HIV to prevent this.
This has been repeated in all forms of treatment and Vaccination.
This is the core reason we only used treatment and Vaccination in the most vulnerable.
Otherwise we would (are at this very moment) create large scale mutations, especially resistant to treatment.
We currently have 8 Vaccines authorized for Emergency Use. These 8 highly overused Vaccines will create massive widescale Mutations, Worldwide.
You should be very concerned that decades of sound science have been thrown out the window this year and the "Pandemics" that will follow due to this grossly mishandled situation will result in what was Fearmongered all year for Covid-19.
I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated. Sorry for the awkward formatting - I can't seem to get the columns any straighter.
Since you appear genuine in your reply, I will take the time to reply, in depth. It is time consuming to replicate the method I watched on a YouTube video, long since deleted.
First, Below is a response related to your Polio reference.
Below is the JUST the Pfizer Trial Data.
The study began in April 29, 2020.
Primary Completion Date Nov 2, 2021
(3 Doses were administered with 6 months in between doses 2&3)
In the Green Section,
Please Select "Contacts and Locations"
Please Select "Show 162 study locations"
Will show you Vaccination was introduced in a select Group of the Public far before the dates you believed and several breakout locations of Variants are corespondent.
Additional breakout locations can be isolated by Mapping Moderna, AstraZeneca etc. with THEIR Trial Data.
Both "Study Details" and "Tabular" views near the Top of the page, will provide significant information on reactions.
Read this carefully and begin to Map your own conclusions. You will not be happy with what you find.
I will add more after you have time to absorb this first, IF you are interested.
"in 1996 .... wild poliovirus paralyzed an estimated 75,000 children on the continent each year. Now the continent has not reported a case of wild polio since August 2016, and the Independent Africa Regional Certification Commission says the World Health Organization's Africa region is free of wild polio."
The vaccination campaign "has prevented an estimated 1.8 million cases of paralysis in children and saved about 180,000 lives"
The article you cite doesn't provide a total but it indicates very few infections from the new virus. Are you concerned there won't be an improved vaccine for the new one?
There's a lot of reading in the proposed Pfizer study but I haven't seen any results yet. It appears they won't be available until November, so I'm not sure what to make of it so far.
"Viruses that don't spread cannot mutate."
Seems pretty simple.
Yah, I don't know how old you are but CTV, our health officials and our Government are not using science in any form in any of this.
For many, many decades we have been taught that the introduction of treatment produces the change required for notable stronger mutations.
ie. Overuse of penicillin will create mutations that resist penicillin.
ie. A person who recovers without the use of penicillin will not result in a notable mutation because nothing new is introduced to the virus to mutate from.
ie. The use of PREP to prevent HIV infection lists the risk of creating a mutation of HIV if HIV is contracted while using it.
ie. Those who use PREP are required to test for HIV regularly to ensure this mutation does not occur to limit the creation of an enhanced PREP resistant HIV. Those on PREP are immediately taken off PREP if they develope HIV to prevent this.
This has been repeated in all forms of treatment and Vaccination.
This is the core reason we only used treatment and Vaccination in the most vulnerable.
Otherwise we would (are at this very moment) create large scale mutations, especially resistant to treatment.
We currently have 8 Vaccines authorized for Emergency Use. These 8 highly overused Vaccines will create massive widescale Mutations, Worldwide.
You should be very concerned that decades of sound science have been thrown out the window this year and the "Pandemics" that will follow due to this grossly mishandled situation will result in what was Fearmongered all year for Covid-19.
Buckle Up.
I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated. Sorry for the awkward formatting - I can't seem to get the columns any straighter.
Variant Discovered Location 1st vaccine
Zeta 2020 April Brazil 2021 January
Epsilon 2020 July California 2020 December
Alpha 2020 Oct. UK 2020 December
Delta 2020 Oct. India 2021 January
Eta 2020 Dec. UK, Nigeria 2021 March
Beta 2020 Dec. S.Africa 2021 February
Gamma 2021 Jan. Japan 2021 February
Theta 2021 Feb. Philippines 2021 March
Since you appear genuine in your reply, I will take the time to reply, in depth. It is time consuming to replicate the method I watched on a YouTube video, long since deleted.
First, Below is a response related to your Polio reference.
? This
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/nov/28/polio-outbreaks-in-four-african-countries-caused-by-mutation-of-strain-in-vaccine
Below is the JUST the Pfizer Trial Data. The study began in April 29, 2020. Primary Completion Date Nov 2, 2021 (3 Doses were administered with 6 months in between doses 2&3)
? This
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04368728#contacts
In the Green Section, Please Select "Contacts and Locations" Please Select "Show 162 study locations"
Will show you Vaccination was introduced in a select Group of the Public far before the dates you believed and several breakout locations of Variants are corespondent.
Additional breakout locations can be isolated by Mapping Moderna, AstraZeneca etc. with THEIR Trial Data.
Both "Study Details" and "Tabular" views near the Top of the page, will provide significant information on reactions.
Read this carefully and begin to Map your own conclusions. You will not be happy with what you find.
I will add more after you have time to absorb this first, IF you are interested.
Polio first.
"in 1996 .... wild poliovirus paralyzed an estimated 75,000 children on the continent each year. Now the continent has not reported a case of wild polio since August 2016, and the Independent Africa Regional Certification Commission says the World Health Organization's Africa region is free of wild polio."
The vaccination campaign "has prevented an estimated 1.8 million cases of paralysis in children and saved about 180,000 lives"
The article you cite doesn't provide a total but it indicates very few infections from the new virus. Are you concerned there won't be an improved vaccine for the new one?
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/25/905884740/africa-declares-wild-polio-is-wiped-out-yet-it-persists-in-vaccine-derived-cases
There's a lot of reading in the proposed Pfizer study but I haven't seen any results yet. It appears they won't be available until November, so I'm not sure what to make of it so far.