I flew back into Canada through Toronto from Florida on July 1st, landed earlier than planned at 11.35pm.
I had my negative COVID test flying in, no issues on the plane, which had only about a dozen passengers. The flight attendant noted that most of the flights she's been assigned to going to Canada have been fairly empty (We both assumed this was due to the restrictions).
Upon landing, went to the automated check in kiosk before you speak to the border agents. Asked the standards questions (how long have you been away, why, etc.). They asked if I was staying at a quarantine hotel and I said no, I am quarantining at home because I live in the middle of nowhere, on a farm, with just my parents. The agent got out of his booth, handed me some paperwork, and escorted me to a seperate line up. He told me I needed to wait here to speak to Public Health. There are 3 health kiosks and 5 PH attendants.
There are 7 other people in front of me. A Chinese woman, a family of 3 from Hong Kong, a young teenager, and a Eastern European woman with her elderly mother.
The EE woman and her mother were quite distraught. Her mother was sitting on the floor, no one had offered her a seat. They were giving the daughter hassle because she booked quarantine at a hotel, but not a government approved one. 3 of these agents are crowding around her and her mother giving her hassle and then walk them through the steps of booking ANOTHER hotel right there. While this is happening, 4 Toronto officers and a border security agent are chatting about how ridiculous all these restrictions are and that they can only empathize with these people because they feel they are rightfully upset.
The lone Chinese woman goes up and explains, via a text-to-speech app, that she's here for 6 hours before she's boarding a connection to Boston. The agents tell her she has to go to a hotel. She explains the flight is at this airport at 6am. 2 PH attendants talk to the side for a few minutes and decide it's OK for her to wait in the airport. Meanwhile, the family of 3 is being processed and the teenager has explained thoroughly why he is in Canada for a week and can't do a full quarantine.
As I'm waiting, one of the agents comes up to me and asks me why I'm in this line. I told her I was sent to this line because I don't have a hotel booked. She asked if I had been vaccinated, where I was coming from, if I live alone, and whether they are over 65. I told her I wasn't vaccinated and both my parents are over 65 with no major debilitating health problems. She tells me, "Oh if you were vaccinated I could do something. But because you aren't and your parents are over 65, we need to take down information and get their consent." I told her I live there. She told me it doesn't matter, because they are over 65, they need to prioritize their health.
It's 12.30am by the time I sit down with another agent. They ask how long I was gone, where I was coming from, my address and contact info, and the names and contact info for my parents. I asked why and this agent said "We need to call them for their consent before we can let you go." I told her straight that it's 12.30am and you can't honestly expect either of them to be awake. In the mean time, a male agent has taken my license to issue the fine for breaking the Quarantine Act. This ticket is $6225. I take it and he stands back.
The agent who was taking my info is calling my mother now. Of course, no answer. I try calling. She asks if there's someone in the city I can stay with. I told her I'm not staying in a tiny apartment in the city with a friend when I can go to a house in the country with a lot more space. She has no response to this. 2 other agents come and stand by me and explain that if they don't pick up they will have to send me to a hotel.
Thankfully, on the 7th call, to my dad, he picks up. The agent I sat down with gives me to OK to leave this booth and stickers.my passport to proceed to the testing area.
It's 1am now. I get my bag, and exit the terminal to what was originally the greeting area for arrivals. Now it is a testing site. I line up, am registered by a "nurse" for a results app and he hands me my test kit. I proceed to another area where more "nurses" are and where they will swab me. As I sit down, this nurse make me blow my nose, then put the tissue in a bag to throw in the garbage (what happened to reducing waste?). She then swabs me nose, gives me the OK to see a final nurse, who stickers my passport with the date and hands me a take home test kit which I am to take on day 8 of my quarantine.
By the time I leave and get home, it is 2.30am on July 2. Now since I have been home, I have been consistently bombarded with emails, texts, and calls from the Government regarding my quarantine and to upload.my daily symptoms on the ARRIVE AN app (something you need to download and register on before you can board you flight to Canada). I just received a call to verify all my info and to make sure I'm staying home and "getting fresh air".
I have never been less proud to be a Canadian citizen and the fact people think this is alright, absolutely baffles me. I was born here and they wouldn't allow me to go to my place of permanent residence, because my elderly parents live with me.
Anyways, I figured for those of you planning to fly out or come back, reading about my experience may be helpful. Thanks for reading this lengthy post and cheers to you all.
Most of us, except for the “Karens” and “Chads” DON’T think this is all right. Look how Baby Castro was able to get around this...Rules for Thee, but NOT for Me...
Welcome back?
Flew into Miami and arrived Saturday morning. Easy. Smooth. No quarantine. Everything open. Tourism in full swing. Meanwhile, in Canada, cucks rule.
The next time I leave this shithole commie CCP fucking wasteland I hope to have a US work permit and never have to return.
Horror Show
I travel a lot. I was in Thailand when the pandemic first hit (Dec 2019). Flew back to Canada because I foolishly listened to Trudeau say "it's time to come home."
Fast forward to Dec 2020, I had enough of the lockdowns and flew out to Mexico to stay with my friend that also left Canada in 2019, but didn't listen to Trudeau and just stayed in Mexico the entire time (overstayed his visa, but that's another story...)
Didn't need a test to enter Mexico or board the plane. No quarantine. Masks are optional, bars and restaurants fully open. It was quite a sight to see people out and about, having fun on the streets, kids running around. Very happy atmosphere in the air.
I flew back to Canada on Jan 6th, a few days before they started the covid test requirement and mandatory hotel quarantine. On the way back I had a layover in Texas, and the border agents were super cool, chill and fun. Kept cracking jokes about me and my girlfriend, and why I hadn't married her yet. Definitely put us at ease.
Then entering Canada, completely opposite story. No welcome home back to Canada. Everyone we encountered was cold with a sour look on their faces. We kept getting grilled about why did we go to Mexico, don't we know there's a pandemic blah blah. Luckily no ticket and didn't need a test at the time either.
But that whole experience led me to eventually leave the country for good. Seeing the outside world and how other countries are moving on from covid, and actually use common sense when dealing with it, opened my eyes to how backwards Canada is.
The worst part is the majority of the nation seems to support these measures and actively blames the unvaccinated and the travellers for any rise in "cases" and "deaths". How dare you go and get a haircut, bigot?
We all know the economy is fucked. Any future prospects the younger generations have is fucked. Smart people, young professionals are leaving in droves - and for good reason.
And yet, the government doesn't seem to give a shit about that at all. All they care about is covid, covid, covid.
I myself left Canada in March, spent time in the Caribbean, and now heading to Europe. Convinced my parents to sell their house and move with me as well as my sister, her husband and my newborn niece.
Those of you who remain, I wish you luck. I know some of you don't have a choice, and I know I'm incredibly privileged to be able to pick up and leave.
But all I want to say is that if you have a chance, seriously consider it. I come from a war-torn country that was ravaged by socialism. Believe me when I tell you, all the signs are there. It will only keep getting worse from here.
Agree. It’s all terrible. I visited Canada 4 times since June 2020. 4 quarantines. But the last one was before the mandatory hotel stay. In April I returned home to Bali. It’s a mess there now. But end of May I went to Brazil to visit my daughters. You need a test to enter but beyond that it’s fantastic. My girls and I flew to Miami Friday night. It’s great here. Open. Completely. We go back to Brazil later this week and unfortunately I have to bring them to Canada to study next month. Not looking forward to it. But I’ll spend a short time there then back to Asia. The real problem with Canada is the whole thing is just so unfriendly and useless. And as you say, so many support these draconian measures. It’s terrible.
That's horrifying, it's a disgrace what this country has become. And I fear it will only get worse, they've been getting away with a lot with no pushback
Thanks for sharing this experience. You gotta get a body cam if you plan to travel again.I'm going to save this and share it with my coworkers.
I really considered recording all this, but felt uneasy with 4 police officers standing by. I'll be sure to do it next time I fly out.
They should have body cams too, & if they do, ask them, "if you have nothing to hide like me, than you have nothing to fear of my recording as you are, right?
If they insist on you turning it off, call a lawyer, right away.
As a non-Canadian, what's up with that fine? You get fined just for traveling outside of the country?
It's a fine for refusing to comply with the Quarantine Act. I did not want to pay $2000 and quarantine in a government facility so they fined me for that.
That's ridiculous. After reading about the conditions at the quarantine hotels, I don't know why anyone would want to stay in one.
That's precisely why I didn't want to stay in one (and blow $2000 on it).
Why would you ever come back to the republic of Chinada?
1 way ticket out and if anyone asks me I've never even visited.
meh that's why I choose not to travel, too much hassle these days. What a shit show.
Why didin't you just fucking stay in Florida jesus christ
That's the plan :)
Amen. Fuck this place. Fuck every last lefty in Toronto that votes for this fucking shit and wears a mask in their car alone. Just go die already.
I won't be paying that fine, it'll be going straight to court. I don't plan on taking a 3rd test -- there's enough proof I don't have it.
As for the app, I asked when I boarded down south of it was necessary and to enter Canada and complete the check on, it is necessary because it provides a receipt number that CBS will need upon entry. They can deny you if you don't have it.
Yes, you have to download the app but you can delete it as soon as you leave the airport. They make you do daily check-ins, but you can do it from the website as well.
I deleted it as soon as I woke up the next day. I'm still getting 2-3 daily emails/texts/calls though.
Watch out for the in-person visit as well. Someone in an unmarked car shows up at your door and demands to see ID. In my area it's usually day 8 or so (K/W). All my friends that travelled got visits then.
Yeah, I got a visit around day 8 in Calgary in May although my boyfriend didn’t get a visit when he flew back in October so they must have been spread too thin back then. The guy asks for ID and asks the same questions as they do on the phone, so you have fresh air, are there people with you, pretty redundant
The Sweetgrass/Coutts crossing in Montana/Alberta worked fine too. There is a free shuttle from the Great Falls airport all the way to it. Took a little longer as an American but the shuttle was full of Canadians doing the same thing. Border officer straight up asked why I didn’t just fly from Cali to Calgary and I just told him, can’t afford the quarantine hotel, and he was fine with it. Way better than flying, sadly
I would like to think Canada will bounce back, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
I came back for family and work commitments.
Next time I leave, it'll be for good.
It will never bounce back. It's not even possible. Are we going to get rid of the all the people from the third world who don't belong here? Or are you one of those people that don't mind being replaced as long as they do it "legally"? No, having your countries major cities be "majority minority" is NOT bouncing back. Until Canada is 90% white, Canada is not back and I don't give a shit if people wanna cry about how non-inclusive I am. Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, and White countries for WHITE people.
Jeez man, that is so ridiculous. I wish you the best.