Sloan is going for the social conservative base. Anti abortion, Christian heritage and all that stuff.
And he is running in his district, so it seems like the Liberals will pick it up. He will split the vote enough with the CPC in his district and help the Libs to win another seat.
Another scoundrel selling out his country for a sweet "party leader's" salary.
These guys think they're punishing the CPC (in Sloan's case he has a valid grievance against them) but it's really the rest of us they're punishing, by condemning us to endless Trudeau rule.
I wish these people could understand it's not about them or their personal political aspirations, and just put the good of the country ahead of their own personal ambitions for once.
Same goes for O'Toole BTW. He's clearly a failure. He should be abdicating to Poilievre.
Conservatives kicked him out of the party. They told nationalists and social conservatives to take a hike.
He doesn't owe the party anything and neither do we. If they want to win the worst place to start was telling people not to vote for them (which conveniently the Libs and NDP and Greens would never ever do).
He wasn't voted out of the caucus? He wasn't forbidden from running as a Conservative in the 2023 Election by O'Toole himself? Am I missing something here? They kicked him out of the party. What exactly are you calling a lie?
My bad, I thought you were referring to Benrier. I was discussing him in another subthread when I saw your comment and just assumed in was in reply to the Bernier discussion.
Yes, Sloan was kicked out of the party, and unfairly at that.
"One thing Sloan did confirm about his party is that he would be open to working with the People’s Party of Canada which he said includes not running against its leader Maxime Bernier in his old riding of Beauce."
https://twitter.com/NatTelegraph/status/1419758216376815650?s=20
If he wanted a seat on the "gravy train" he would have kept his mouth shut, never challenged the anointed one, and sat quietly at the table as the impotent token social conservative.
He's far less likely to make a higher salary forming his own party. He doesn't have the following Max does.
If he wanted a seat on the "gravy train" he would have kept his mouth shut, never challenged the anointed one, and sat quietly at the table as the impotent token social conservative.
But then he's only be making an MP salary. And worse, he'd have to show up to work every day.
Instead by quitting the party, starting his own party and losing his seat as a result, he gets to collect his maxed out MP's pension PLUS the $104k "party leader's" salary he's paying himself out of the donation money. That's WAY better than making less money and having to work.
Anyone willing to abandon the CPC for not being far-right enough did so in 2018 when Max broke off of the CPC. Sloan and Max will now be competing for that same market.
Oh shit now TWO parties are going to siphon votes away from the CPC
No, the PPC have already siphoned all the anti-vaxxers off of the CPC.
Now the Sloan party are going to siphon some of those off of the PPC.
I mean do you really think there's people in the CPC camp right now thinking "I'd love to join a wing-nut anti-vax party, but Bernier is just too blonde and bare-faced"?
Of course not. Anyone Sloan's party will appeal to has already long since quit the CPC and joined the PPC.
You don't have to take "anti-vaxxer" as a criticism. But it is Sloan's main schtick, and one that he shares with the PPC.
My position on vax is that it's reasonable to be apprehensive based on the fact that they're poorly tested. In that sense, you can lump me in with some of the people I'm calling anit-vaxxers.
Sloan is going for the social conservative base. Anti abortion, Christian heritage and all that stuff.
And he is running in his district, so it seems like the Liberals will pick it up. He will split the vote enough with the CPC in his district and help the Libs to win another seat.
Another scoundrel selling out his country for a sweet "party leader's" salary.
These guys think they're punishing the CPC (in Sloan's case he has a valid grievance against them) but it's really the rest of us they're punishing, by condemning us to endless Trudeau rule.
I wish these people could understand it's not about them or their personal political aspirations, and just put the good of the country ahead of their own personal ambitions for once.
Same goes for O'Toole BTW. He's clearly a failure. He should be abdicating to Poilievre.
Conservatives kicked him out of the party. They told nationalists and social conservatives to take a hike.
He doesn't owe the party anything and neither do we. If they want to win the worst place to start was telling people not to vote for them (which conveniently the Libs and NDP and Greens would never ever do).
No they didn't. Stop lying.He wasn't voted out of the caucus? He wasn't forbidden from running as a Conservative in the 2023 Election by O'Toole himself? Am I missing something here? They kicked him out of the party. What exactly are you calling a lie?
My bad, I thought you were referring to Benrier. I was discussing him in another subthread when I saw your comment and just assumed in was in reply to the Bernier discussion.
Yes, Sloan was kicked out of the party, and unfairly at that.
Whats the point of arguing? I have no doubt that our elections are fortified, so the outcome has already been decided.
oh jeez here we go.
Well, that's nice of him. 😆
The only rational explanation I can think of for why he's doing this is for money. He knows he's going to lose his seat next election now that he's no longer in the CPC, so he needs some kind of job/income for afterwards. He sees Max pulling in over $100k/yr in "party leader" salary from campaign donations, so Sloan probably wants to start a gravy train of his own.
This should be a wakeup call for PPC supporters. It's exposing these grifts for what they are.
If he wanted a seat on the "gravy train" he would have kept his mouth shut, never challenged the anointed one, and sat quietly at the table as the impotent token social conservative.
He's far less likely to make a higher salary forming his own party. He doesn't have the following Max does.
But then he's only be making an MP salary. And worse, he'd have to show up to work every day.
Instead by quitting the party, starting his own party and losing his seat as a result, he gets to collect his maxed out MP's pension PLUS the $104k "party leader's" salary he's paying himself out of the donation money. That's WAY better than making less money and having to work.
Welcome to First Past the Post!
There is only two options. The rest are outliers.
Any other voting system in Canada would mean that the Conservatives would never rule again.
LOL this from the guy who can't understand why it's a bad idea to wave tiki torches at his political rallies.
Anyone willing to abandon the CPC for not being far-right enough did so in 2018 when Max broke off of the CPC. Sloan and Max will now be competing for that same market.
"Far right enough" aka policies that were core CPC principals ... 6 years ago.
Not much actually, no.
https://i.imgur.com/BEOamUp.png
No, the PPC have already siphoned all the anti-vaxxers off of the CPC.
Now the Sloan party are going to siphon some of those off of the PPC.
I mean do you really think there's people in the CPC camp right now thinking "I'd love to join a wing-nut anti-vax party, but Bernier is just too blonde and bare-faced"?
Of course not. Anyone Sloan's party will appeal to has already long since quit the CPC and joined the PPC.
Man why do you have to use BS MSM terms like anti vaxxer most of the people not getting the clot shot have all their other immunizations.
You don't have to take "anti-vaxxer" as a criticism. But it is Sloan's main schtick, and one that he shares with the PPC.
My position on vax is that it's reasonable to be apprehensive based on the fact that they're poorly tested. In that sense, you can lump me in with some of the people I'm calling anit-vaxxers.
But there's also a shit load of unreaonsable people in the mix too.
Sloan had 14% in the first round alone.
The important number would be how many party members had him above O'Toole on their ballot.