The west liberated Afghanistan from the Taliban and gave them the freedom to chart their destiny. Trillions were spent helping them. The translators were not helping us, they were helping themselves. They were freeing themselves from Islamic rule. Afghans chose not to fight for that freedom. They chose Islam above democracy. So, they made their bed and now they can lie on it.
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No, they are not our responsibility. We scarified enough trying to help them, and this is all happening because they're unwilling to help themselves. We don't owe them shit.
Pakistan and Saudi Arabia deserve to collapse as well. Few recall that 12 out of the 15 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi nationals and that Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter of Wahhabist terrorism in the world. That Afghanistan with its 90% Sunni population and its Taliban armed by the CCP throughout the Soviet and Western occupations fails again only to become some backwater caliphate is not our concern. The genocidal terror state in Beijing is, however; and we need to shift our priorities big time.
It was never going to end well. A nation of Islamic fundamentalists who are highly inbred, have very low IQ’s, and whose only desire is to rape young boys and smoke drugs was never a recipe for success and freedom.
This Vice doc, “This is what winning looks like”, from 8 years ago highlights these issues: https://youtu.be/Ja5Q75hf6QI
I was watching an interview with Carlson. A platoon leader that spent 480 days in Afghanistan. Lost a lot of men. 5 of them when an IED blew up one of his trucks. The guy who coordinated the placement of the IED with the Taliban was their translator, who worked for them for over a year. That's when he got found out. I know lots of people are pushing to get the translators over in Canada, but some were clearly not "helping us".
As for the general population we don't owe them shit. They didn't want what we had to offer. Maybe flying that giant LGBT flag over the embassy didn't win any hearths and minds. They dropped thier weapons and welcomed the Taliban. Some didn't, but that's on them. Twenty fucking years of fucking the dog is enough.
What about the women? What about them? The fucking recruiting center doors were wide open for feminists, if they wanted to go fight the eeeeeevil patriarchy. How did that work out?
The Taliban did not come out of an alternate dimension or from outer space. They are the product of a culture that puts Islamic values above everything else. Members of the Taliban are not aliens, they are the sons and daughters of 'the people.' Twenty years ago, they decided it would be a good idea to come and kill people in our continent, so we returned the favor in kind. But we are good neighbours, so instead of destroying them like it used to be done in the old days, we showed them mercy and a new way of doing things through democracy, peace, and freedom. People flourished with this new found freedom. Just look at the status of women and girls after the Taliban retreated. Yet the Afghans never gave up the old ways. Adherence to religion was the (Sharia) law of their land. Now, they have decided that fighting for freedom and democracy is not worth it. So, the only thing we have left to say to them is 'good luck!'
Oh yea, the innocent Afghans were just minding their business when the Russians and the Americans showed up to fight the cold war. For centuries, the Islamists have been causing trouble, and they came to our shores to cause more trouble on September 11, 2001. It is part of their religious doctrine to destroy the infidel. That is you and me. The Afghan army did not fire a single shot to stop the Taliban advance. They folded like a wet piece of paper. As far as the Americans not servicing the aircraft or whatever else, who cares? The Afghans had guns, they had training, money and much more. If Canada was in trouble because of a ruthless enemy hell bent on enslaving you and raping your women, are you just going to throw your hands up in the air because foreigners are not servicing your junk? No, you'd stand and fight for your country and your family with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. Unless, you don't think your cause is worth dying for, which in case, put your gun down, take your boots off, and good luck.