I just want to make sure you know the odds. There was a post here a few days ago that misrepresented the numbers, making it look as though the unvaccinated numbers were lower.
Apparently "unvaccinated" includes people who received their first dose less than 14 days ago. The fact that 1/3 of cases are partially/fully vaccinated and an unknown number of "unvaccinated" actually have been jabbed, really should make you wonder. Some of these people are ending up in ICU as well. In the end though we're talking about a few dozen people in a province of 14.5 million.
Well, it makes a huge difference. People like you are implying that "unvaccinated" people are solely those who choose not to be vaccinated, when in fact that's not the case.
Are you suggesting that covid will only mutate in unvaccinated infected people? I highly doubt that. Hate to break it to you, covid is never going away. Even if 100% of Canadians are vaccinated and receive numerous "booster" shots, it would continue to circulate and likely mutate often.
It's simple. Roughly two thirds of the people tying up resources in the healthcare system due to covid are from the one third (well, 35.33%) of the population that has not received two injections of a vaccine. (https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data)
"Normal" medical services are being delayed as a result.
But based on the very title of this thread your issue is with the "unvaccinated" which you seemed to believe were people were refusing to get any shots. Now you're shifting the blame to people who had to wait because they were not eligible until a few weeks ago and who due to Trudeau's failed procurement have to wait up to another 4 months to get a second dose. It almost seems like you're just trolling at this point because you were proven wrong.
You're bringing an awful lot of speculation into this conversation.
It's probably just you and me following it, but just in case anyone else is paying attention I'd like to thank you giving me so many opportunities to repeat my message that the majority of people in the medical system suffering the effects of covid come from the ranks of those who have not had both their shots.
My body, my choice. If a woman can decide to murder their unborn child, I can decide not to take some experimental shot.
I just want to make sure you know the odds. There was a post here a few days ago that misrepresented the numbers, making it look as though the unvaccinated numbers were lower.
Apparently "unvaccinated" includes people who received their first dose less than 14 days ago. The fact that 1/3 of cases are partially/fully vaccinated and an unknown number of "unvaccinated" actually have been jabbed, really should make you wonder. Some of these people are ending up in ICU as well. In the end though we're talking about a few dozen people in a province of 14.5 million.
Nope.
If you look at the web page you'll see they have stats for the partially vaccinated. They have ranged from about 7 to 14%
Yup. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8Y-LXwWQAYIjCY.jpg
You're right. "Unvaccinated" includes people whose vaccination hasn't had time to work.
I'm not sure why that makes a difference to you. A vaccination that's too recent to matter is the same thing as unvaccinated.
A third of 14.5 million is a lot of potential virus variations.
Well, it makes a huge difference. People like you are implying that "unvaccinated" people are solely those who choose not to be vaccinated, when in fact that's not the case.
Are you suggesting that covid will only mutate in unvaccinated infected people? I highly doubt that. Hate to break it to you, covid is never going away. Even if 100% of Canadians are vaccinated and receive numerous "booster" shots, it would continue to circulate and likely mutate often.
It's simple. Roughly two thirds of the people tying up resources in the healthcare system due to covid are from the one third (well, 35.33%) of the population that has not received two injections of a vaccine. (https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data)
"Normal" medical services are being delayed as a result.
But based on the very title of this thread your issue is with the "unvaccinated" which you seemed to believe were people were refusing to get any shots. Now you're shifting the blame to people who had to wait because they were not eligible until a few weeks ago and who due to Trudeau's failed procurement have to wait up to another 4 months to get a second dose. It almost seems like you're just trolling at this point because you were proven wrong.
You're bringing an awful lot of speculation into this conversation.
It's probably just you and me following it, but just in case anyone else is paying attention I'd like to thank you giving me so many opportunities to repeat my message that the majority of people in the medical system suffering the effects of covid come from the ranks of those who have not had both their shots.
So am I reading this wrong? Majority of icu and hospital admissions are unvaccd?
Yeah all 50 of them out 15 million
Unvaccinated includes people 0 to 13 days after first jab.
This is true. Thanks for linking the info in the above comment.
Apparently so.
Two thirds of the cases and hospitalizations are from one third of the population.