Segregation: 1921 vs 2021
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According to who? For every accepted study so far - not a pre-print but an actual peer-reviewed large-scale double-blind study performed by accredited professionals in the field - that indicates there's another treatment that should be explored there are dozens that find that avenue provides so little benefit as to be a waste of resources.
No one knowledgeable about vaccines ever, anywhere, said the vaccines provided immunity. From the very beginning, when the large scale trials concluded, the best rating any vaccine got was 95% effective. And they went on to clarify that by that they meant the severity of the illness caused by the virus was reduced, easing the burden on the healthcare system.
What was it in the link you provided that you thought supported your argument? Because (again) here's what I read in it:
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"though in the vaccinated, these [viral] levels rapidly diminish. There is also some question about how cultivatable—or viable—this virus retrieved from vaccinated people actually is."
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"it’s important to keep three things in mind:
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How can you take that and say "See? This says you shouldn't get vaccinated."?
"According to who?"
India
"the best rating any vaccine got was 95% effective"
Well, I wish that vaccine was at least effective enough that people would not insist I get vaccinated or I am literally killing them. I wish it was at least effective enough that it does not wear off after 6-8 months. I wish the vaccine wasn't so leaky as to get variants within 4 months
My personal effectiveness score, 15%
India got the poop scared out of them initially and now simple public health measures have been mandated: masks in public with fines for non-compliance. Only 6% of them are over 65, and that's in part because a lot of them were killed off younger by malaria, dengue fever, typhoid, hepatitis, cholera. "Some experts speculate that people with robust immune systems may be more likely to survive in India in the first place." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/02/01/962821038/the-mystery-of-indias-plummeting-covid-19-cases
I see. "Rules for thee but not for me." Do you tell your friends and co-workers that?
Welcome to the real world. I wish I was rich.
As though the unvaccinated didn't produce variants when they were infected. "Unvaccinated people are the major source of variants". https://www.healthline.com/health-news/unvaccinated-people-are-increasing-the-chances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how?c=1631230691774
I don't know what that means.
Are you aware that they gave ivermectin to most of the states in India? This marked a noticeable downturn in covid case. some provinces noted a 95% reduction in new covid cases. Other states that bought into the hoax that ivermectin is dangerous saw an increase in cases over the same time.
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I never demanded anything of anyone.
Well in the real world before it turned into clown world a real vaccine would do better than a half assed job of preventing infection and spread, and would typically last a lifetime.
Yea it makes way more sense that the experimental MRNA vaccine caused the rapid mutations of the genetically engineered covid virus
Show me the data on ivermectin in India. There are a bunch of stories but I haven't seen any studies about its effectiveness. How much did India have? How much did they give out? I quoted you a source with a number of other reasons for the current story in India, none of which needed ivermectin. And your response was "blah blah blah". Impressive. You're full of opinions but short on evidence.
Before we get too far past it I want to repeat a question you didn't respond to. The only support you provided for those opinions was an article that says:
======= "people infected with the delta variant can carry detectable viral loads similar to those of people who are unvaccinated, though in the vaccinated, these levels rapidly diminish. There is also some question about how cultivatable — or viable — this virus retrieved from vaccinated people actually is."
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"it’s important to keep three things in mind:
Vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease.
Breakthrough infections among vaccinated individuals remain uncommon.
The majority of new COVID-19 infections in the US are among unvaccinated people."
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How can you take that and use it to say "I don't need to get vaccinated."?