Firstly this is for the benefit of the whole forum, in case they may find this data handy.

I know more than experts in infectious diseases and public health protocols? I never said that. I looked for the data, because I didnt know myself, so I found it and previously gave it - Data from the CDC, and the BC CDC. Just trying to get to the bottom of this, and look for some positive news, dont you want to get to the bottom of this? Nobody on here wants this thing to last forever. Wouldnt anyone here be happy if the gov announced tomorrow it was all over? I'm tired of it, my business is tired of it, my employees are tired of it, my suppliers are tired of it, and my customers & clients (esp US clients who cant even get to us) are tired of it. We are almost two years into this nonsense with no end in sight.

The business, customers, employees, suppliers etc all jumped through every hoop the gov set, we're at 87-90% jabbed, well beyond the original Trudeau admin's 'Target', and every time the carrot is moved a few feet forward and the goal posts moved.

What I conceded is that I am unsure of the exact IFR, so we went with your rounded up 2%.

Are you positing that: "I’m no doctor, but elderly people tend to have other things wrong with them, sometimes serious. It’s also commonly accepted that even a common cold can finish off a particularly frail elderly person."

Is incorrect?

"...conditions increases with age. Among those aged 85+, the 5 diseases with the highest prevalence were hypertension (83.4%), osteoarthritis (54.0%), ischemic heart disease (IHD) [42.0%], osteoporosis (36.9%) and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) [27.3%]. "

About half way down- section 2. (Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/aging-chronic-diseases-profile-canadian-seniors-executive-summary.html )

So far, you appear to posit that you are disatisfied by the percentage of Canadians who have got a jab. Is this correct?

What percentage will you be satisfied with? We are at 87% to almost 89% depending on the data table looked at.

The vast majority of the most vulnerable have already been jabbed. According to BC CDC numbers data (previously given) the vast majority of those dying in hospital are 60+ 94%, the even older group - 94%.

Assuming: Can pop of 38,246,108 million. I used data from the below sites to calculate # of people jabbed, vs number remaining, using StatsCan population demographic by age cohort estimates. (Jabs by age from here: https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html )

(Population age demographic from StatsCan here:

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2021&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021&referencePeriods=20210101%2C20210101 )

( Another source of % jabbed by age here: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ )

% jabbed and # left not jabbed-

80+ 96% have been jabbed- leaving about 68,548 non.

70-79 98% leaving 125,363

60-69 93% leaving 338,832

50-59 87% leaving 66,697

40-49 85% leaving 734,121

30-39 81% leaving 1,019,243

15-29 79% leaving 1,501,555 (at this point the calculations will be a little skewed as the age categories are slightly offset between the two data tables on the respective websites)

0-14/17 29% leaving 1,745,244

0-4 Was not able to determine % jabbed, and I posit this should be disregarded in calculations as babies fresh out of the womb and 4 year olds cannot really consent, and jabbing them is morally suspect, at best. The population of 0-4yrs children for clarity is approx 1,882,571.

I will remove the 0-4 age cohort from calculations. Since according to BC CDC and US CDC data, healthy children up to 19 are extremely unlikely to perish from sars-cov2, they will be excluded from calculations.

0-19 yrs cohort Canadian pop is about 8,075,533. Remaining Canadian population that in theory can get the shot or have got it is 30,170,575. Of that the % jabbed doesnt change much, about 89%.

Okay! Soooo.... 96% of those 80+ being jabbed isnt going to get much higher. Maybe the remaining 4% are either so ill for it to not be worth it, or terminal, or actually have weeks or months to live, maybe some do not understand so cannot give consent, etc etc. Let's just go with that cohort is covered for practical purposes.

As a reminder for the forum, the only thing that really matters is, are you going to die of X? Data on the gov site here: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html?stat=num&measure=deaths

Figure 7, select 'deaths'. 60+ is 94% of deaths, allegedly caused by sars-cov2. On seniors with high blood pressure at 8 out of 10, and COPD at almost a third on average. Every death is unfortunate, of course. However looking at the lockdowns, travel restrictions, New Brunswick travel 20km nonsense, and all this jab papers madness, all this... for 532,000 seniors who remain unjabbed, spread over the whole country.

532,000 statistically most vulnerable people by a vast margin, who are unjabbed.

Of the Canada pop excluding 0-19 thats about:

30,170,575 people.

Hey forum.... We are holding the country to ransom for 1.7% of the population.

The whole pop? Thats 1.39% of the population.