The following is from your own link. I don't think you read it. "While the two-dose mRNA vaccine’s efficacy against infection wanes, its protection against Covid-related hospitalizations persists, remaining 90% effective for all coronavirus variants of concern — including delta — for at least six months, according to the study, which was funded by Pfizer."
anyone who tests positive for covid
You keep saying that, but it doesn't change the fact that for every 100 people in the hospitals yesterday who tested positive for covid, about 70 of them came from the 20% of the population that isn't vaccinated. If the vaccines were no good there would only be 20 instead of 70.
It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs
You didn't answer when I asked you before. Why is that important?
My God man, 99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not. The vaccine is useless and anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what 90% of that 1% that need hospitalization?
99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not.
So you say, with no data to back you up. On the other hand the Internet is full of reputable sites which report that one person dies out of every fifty who test positive for the virus. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Never mind just being hospitalized.
anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what
Here's a quote from the first result in the duckduckgo search above: "In granting full approval, the FDA analyzed data from 44,000 study participants. Half received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the other half received the placebo. Over six months of follow-up, the vaccine was 91.1% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection." https://www.health.harvard.edu/covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs
You still haven't answered. Why is that important?
Older age has been a major contributor to excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic not just in Canada.Footnote4Footnote5 Figure 2 compares the weekly death counts in Canada in 2020 to the average weekly death counts from 2015 to 2019 for people less than 65 years of age and those 65 and older. In 2020, there was a noticeable increase in the number of deaths occurring in Canadians aged 65 years and older compared to the average number of deaths in the five years prior to the pandemic, especially between mid-March and mid-May and toward the end of the year. There was little variation in weekly deaths between 2020 and the prior five years for individuals younger than 65 years of age.
There you have it no change in excess mortality under 65.
In essence there was no pandemic under 65. Vaccinate over 65 leave the rest alone.
This means that as well as tying up a disproportionatly large chunk of healthcare services themselves the unvaccinated put more people into the healthcare system on a per capita basis than the vaccinated. Everyone who can be vaccinated should be.
Age is not a factor in the spread of the virus - everyone who catches it spreads it, and all ages catch it. Your own link supplies figures for all age ranges in three categories: hospitalized, admitted to ICU, and deceased..
Fron your link: "Fully vaccinated individuals diagnosed with COVID-19 were significantly protected from severe outcomes. Compared to unvaccinated cases, fully vaccinated cases were 79% less likely to be hospitalized and 64% less likely to die as a result of their illness (Table 3)."
The notion that younger people should not be vaccinated is incorrect.
The following is from your own link. I don't think you read it. "While the two-dose mRNA vaccine’s efficacy against infection wanes, its protection against Covid-related hospitalizations persists, remaining 90% effective for all coronavirus variants of concern — including delta — for at least six months, according to the study, which was funded by Pfizer."
You keep saying that, but it doesn't change the fact that for every 100 people in the hospitals yesterday who tested positive for covid, about 70 of them came from the 20% of the population that isn't vaccinated. If the vaccines were no good there would only be 20 instead of 70.
You didn't answer when I asked you before. Why is that important?
My God man, 99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not. The vaccine is useless and anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what 90% of that 1% that need hospitalization?
So you say, with no data to back you up. On the other hand the Internet is full of reputable sites which report that one person dies out of every fifty who test positive for the virus. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Never mind just being hospitalized.
You would have a point if that was the only evidence, but it's not. There are hundreds of independent studies that confirm its effectiveness. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=scholarly+pfizer+effectiveness&t=h_&df=m&ia=web
Here's a quote from the first result in the duckduckgo search above: "In granting full approval, the FDA analyzed data from 44,000 study participants. Half received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the other half received the placebo. Over six months of follow-up, the vaccine was 91.1% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection." https://www.health.harvard.edu/covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
You still haven't answered. Why is that important?
Older age has been a major contributor to excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic not just in Canada.Footnote4Footnote5 Figure 2 compares the weekly death counts in Canada in 2020 to the average weekly death counts from 2015 to 2019 for people less than 65 years of age and those 65 and older. In 2020, there was a noticeable increase in the number of deaths occurring in Canadians aged 65 years and older compared to the average number of deaths in the five years prior to the pandemic, especially between mid-March and mid-May and toward the end of the year. There was little variation in weekly deaths between 2020 and the prior five years for individuals younger than 65 years of age.
There you have it no change in excess mortality under 65.
In essence there was no pandemic under 65. Vaccinate over 65 leave the rest alone.
In the link you supplied Figure 7 lists almost 5,000 deaths in people under 70
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
Hospitalized 86,410
Excluding anyone under 70
Approx. 33000 hospitalizations Approx. 1.35 million counted cases
Hospitalization rate = 2.4%
Factoring in the number of unreported cases would get you close to that figure.
You can peruse yourself
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
As for ICU admissions
Under 60 is .05%
Now we can say severe covid is an ICU admission, hospitalizations are unreliable.
Logically you can say with evidence perhaps the vaccine assists those over 60, you could argue the net benefit begins at 50.
Mandatory policies for anyone under that age is criminal.
Unvaccinated people spread the virus more readily than the vaccinated. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583 - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y
This means that as well as tying up a disproportionatly large chunk of healthcare services themselves the unvaccinated put more people into the healthcare system on a per capita basis than the vaccinated. Everyone who can be vaccinated should be.
Age is not a factor in the spread of the virus - everyone who catches it spreads it, and all ages catch it. Your own link supplies figures for all age ranges in three categories: hospitalized, admitted to ICU, and deceased..
Fron your link: "Fully vaccinated individuals diagnosed with COVID-19 were significantly protected from severe outcomes. Compared to unvaccinated cases, fully vaccinated cases were 79% less likely to be hospitalized and 64% less likely to die as a result of their illness (Table 3)."
The notion that younger people should not be vaccinated is incorrect.