The vax zealot's motte-and-bailey argument (used everywhere, including on this very forum)
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Have you been ignoring the official stats posted here on an ongoing basis for weeks on end showing similar ratios of vaxxed and unvaxxed in hospital?
What about young age groups having lower representation in hospital.
What about people with natural immunity, superior to that of the vax?
90% of the people hospitalized have comorbidities, what about unvaxxed people who are very healthy.
Why do you insist on treating unhealthy vaxxed people better than healthy unvaxxed. Let me guess sCiEnCe.
Vax doesn’t prevent spread. Repeat it in your head ten times.
I’ll go with the scientists in the countries that are cancelling the mandates.
It's heading towards tempest in a teapot status now. It looks like the mandates will be cancelled here soon too.
They are in the hospital. Why is that confusing?
You get it by surviving covid. Some people don't, others remain ill, some take up hospital beds that others need.
That was only true at the very beginning. A vaccination is recommended now.
Verifying that health is the problem. People lie. So now we're going to send a couple million or more people to the doctor's office for a health passport?
No. See above.
It used to slow spread down, not prevent it. Not any more. If you meet anyone who says so tell them I said they were wrong.
Scientists are in agreement. It's the politicians that are cancelling the mandates.
"They are in the hospital. Why is that confusing?"
In very low numbers, why is that confusing?
"That was only true at the very beginning. A vaccination is recommended now."
False information- natural immunity is still superior, and therefor barring from activities the vaccinated are permitted to engage in is unscientific and discriminatory.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/
"Verifying that health is the problem. People lie. So now we're going to send a couple million or more people to the doctor's office for a health passport?"
I don't what any controls whatsoever. I'm pointing out the unscientific nature of barring people with a vanquishing low risk just because they've been assigned to the unvaccinated group. Once-size-fits-all is not scientific, it's political.
"Scientists are in agreement. It's the politicians that are cancelling the mandates."
You've admitted the mandates are based on politics not science.
They're still in the hospital.
Nope. "Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
and
"Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM73434&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2071%2C%20January%2019%2C%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM73434
Got a driver's license? Insurance? I wish I was rich. Good luck to both of us.
The scientists want the mandates. The politicians invoke and remove them based on reading the political tea leaves.