Delta is not currently a factor. Why would you be discussing a variant that is no longer active? See the 'Percentage of Cases Caused by Different Variants in Ontario' graph at https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/
Let me get this straight- you think the vaccine designed for v1 covid, which is inferior to natural immunity in the context of Delta is going to be superior to natural immunity for Omicron?
I’m not sure why this is hard for you, but the vax immunity is only against the spike and from original c19, natural immunity is against the whole virus and based on the strain of infection. That’s the reason natural immunity is superior.
Try to use your brain, natural immunity from Omicron is going to be specific to omicron variant. Your precious vax is for v1 Covid19.
You have presented no evidence about natural immunity for Omicron, and any evidence you did present about natural immunity as superior has not been valid for over a year, since the variants of concern started to appear. The current recommendations are to get vaccinated after recovering from covid.
Try to use your brain
The joke is that you appear to be trying to use yours to argue that all those recommendations to get vaccinated after recovering from covid are wrong.
And in all your references to natural immunity you have never once acknowledged that you have to not die of covid to get it.
The study behind the article I linked to went from May 2021 to Nov 2021, so not over a year ago, yet another of your lies.
I don’t know why you’re incapable of processing the extremely simple concept that natural immunity is real and provides protection. You advocate for policy that ignores this fact. That’s political.
The study ran till November. Superior protection from infection disappeared much earlier until Delta arrived.
You still have not acknowledged that you have to not die of covid in order to get natural immunity.
I don't see how you can read these passages from your link and proclaim that people who have survived covid will not increase the load on the healthcare system if they can be vaccinated but choose not to.
I doubt if anyone is going to read all of the quotes below so I'll put the final recommendation first: "Primary COVID-19 vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended by CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to ensure that all eligible persons are up to date with COVID-19 vaccination, which provides the most robust protection against initial infection, severe illness, hospitalization, long-term sequelae, and death."
"Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone."
"vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death. Primary vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended for all eligible persons. Additional future recommendations for vaccine doses might be warranted as the virus and immunity levels change."
"Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change with the emergence of new variants, vaccination remains the safest strategy to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infections and associated complications; all eligible persons should be up to date with COVID-19 vaccination."
"Before the Delta variant became predominant ... case rates ... were lowest among vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis"
"During the week beginning May 30, 2021, compared with COVID-19 case rates among unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, COVID-19 case rates were 19.9-fold (California) and 18.4-fold (New York) lower among vaccinated persons without a previous diagnosis; rates were 7.2-fold (California) and 9.9-fold (New York) lower among unvaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis and 9.6-fold (California) and 8.5-fold (New York) lower among vaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis"
It doesn’t matter that someone has to “not die of covid to get it”.
I’m not telling people to go out and get infected to acquire it, I’m pointing out that for you it’s not about science, it’s about politics.
Some countries recognize natural immunity in the context of vaxports and some don’t. They all have the same science and make political decisions based on it.
I’m against the politics of discrimination, you’re not.
You don’t seem to care if someone has a better better protection than you, you want them discriminated against until they follow your political dictate, while you can go about your life.
You don’t seem to care if someone has a better better protection than you
I want everyone eligible to have the best protection possible so that those with other health concerns can get the care they need. The best protection possible is not simply surviving covid.
Delta is not currently a factor. Why would you be discussing a variant that is no longer active? See the 'Percentage of Cases Caused by Different Variants in Ontario' graph at https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/
Let me get this straight- you think the vaccine designed for v1 covid, which is inferior to natural immunity in the context of Delta is going to be superior to natural immunity for Omicron?
I’m not sure why this is hard for you, but the vax immunity is only against the spike and from original c19, natural immunity is against the whole virus and based on the strain of infection. That’s the reason natural immunity is superior.
Try to use your brain, natural immunity from Omicron is going to be specific to omicron variant. Your precious vax is for v1 Covid19.
You have presented no evidence about natural immunity for Omicron, and any evidence you did present about natural immunity as superior has not been valid for over a year, since the variants of concern started to appear. The current recommendations are to get vaccinated after recovering from covid.
The joke is that you appear to be trying to use yours to argue that all those recommendations to get vaccinated after recovering from covid are wrong.
And in all your references to natural immunity you have never once acknowledged that you have to not die of covid to get it.
The study behind the article I linked to went from May 2021 to Nov 2021, so not over a year ago, yet another of your lies.
I don’t know why you’re incapable of processing the extremely simple concept that natural immunity is real and provides protection. You advocate for policy that ignores this fact. That’s political.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM73434&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2071%2C%20January%2019%2C%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM73434
The study ran till November. Superior protection from infection disappeared much earlier until Delta arrived.
You still have not acknowledged that you have to not die of covid in order to get natural immunity.
I don't see how you can read these passages from your link and proclaim that people who have survived covid will not increase the load on the healthcare system if they can be vaccinated but choose not to.
I doubt if anyone is going to read all of the quotes below so I'll put the final recommendation first: "Primary COVID-19 vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended by CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to ensure that all eligible persons are up to date with COVID-19 vaccination, which provides the most robust protection against initial infection, severe illness, hospitalization, long-term sequelae, and death."
"Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone."
"vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death. Primary vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended for all eligible persons. Additional future recommendations for vaccine doses might be warranted as the virus and immunity levels change."
"Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change with the emergence of new variants, vaccination remains the safest strategy to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infections and associated complications; all eligible persons should be up to date with COVID-19 vaccination."
"Before the Delta variant became predominant ... case rates ... were lowest among vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis"
"During the week beginning May 30, 2021, compared with COVID-19 case rates among unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, COVID-19 case rates were 19.9-fold (California) and 18.4-fold (New York) lower among vaccinated persons without a previous diagnosis; rates were 7.2-fold (California) and 9.9-fold (New York) lower among unvaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis and 9.6-fold (California) and 8.5-fold (New York) lower among vaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis"
It doesn’t matter that someone has to “not die of covid to get it”.
I’m not telling people to go out and get infected to acquire it, I’m pointing out that for you it’s not about science, it’s about politics.
Some countries recognize natural immunity in the context of vaxports and some don’t. They all have the same science and make political decisions based on it.
I’m against the politics of discrimination, you’re not.
You don’t seem to care if someone has a better better protection than you, you want them discriminated against until they follow your political dictate, while you can go about your life.
I want everyone eligible to have the best protection possible so that those with other health concerns can get the care they need. The best protection possible is not simply surviving covid.