You deflected. Let me deflect. When talking about how well the vaccine works, you also need to take into account vaccine injuries and whether the vaccine might cause deaths from things other than covid (all-cause mortality).
What do you know... vaccinated are dying at a higher rate. But at least some of them are not dying of covid, amirite?
And, these stats are only up to September, 2021. It's worse now. And, this does not even include vaccine injuries that devastate many peoples' lives, some of whom probably wish they were dead rather than deal with their new vaccine injuries.
And they chose the numbers for "Cases" which - since Omicron infection is relatively mild and spreads so fast - are impossible to count. Furthermore there are four options for "Cases" and the other three show the advantage of being vaccinated.
They could have chosen "Hospitalizations". It's much closer to a real-world indication because parents tend to take their kids in when they're really sick. If you take the trouble to look at the "Hospitalization" graphs for kids all four options show the advantage of being vaccinated.
So out of the eight options for kids they chose the only one that fits their narrative and never mentioned that the other data was presented.
Let me deflect.
They have doubts about Figure 4, the one you like:
"However, because this group includes such a wide age range it is possible that this potentially extremely disturbing statistic remains strongly confounded by age. Therefore, without a finer age categorisation it is impossible to tell what the actual difference in all-cause deaths might be. Why the age confounding was not apparent in weeks 1 to 5 when only the most vulnerable were being vaccinated remains unexplained. Where age groups are narrower, 60-69, 70-79 and 80+, the age confounding effects are somewhat mitigated, and the data appear to show (in each of these age groups) a lower all-cause mortality for the vaccinated, compared to the unvaccinated. See Figures 5, 6 and 7. "
And Figures 5, 6, and 7 all show the advantage of being vaccinated.
So, young people skew the stats, eh? Damn young people dying because of the covid vaccines ruins the stats for everybody.
Look at the charts, though...See the trajectory? The trajectory is going in the wrong direction. These stats are up to Sept, 2021. Recent stats will be worse. We won't see the recent stats for a few more months, at least.
He was specifically talking about kids.
You deflected. Let me deflect. When talking about how well the vaccine works, you also need to take into account vaccine injuries and whether the vaccine might cause deaths from things other than covid (all-cause mortality).
The risk/benefit of Covid vaccines is arguably most accurately measured by comparing the all-cause mortality rate of vaccinated against unvaccinated, since it not only avoids most confounders relating to case definition but also fulfils the WHO/CDC definition of "vaccine effectiveness" for mortality.
What do you know... vaccinated are dying at a higher rate. But at least some of them are not dying of covid, amirite?
And, these stats are only up to September, 2021. It's worse now. And, this does not even include vaccine injuries that devastate many peoples' lives, some of whom probably wish they were dead rather than deal with their new vaccine injuries.
And they chose the numbers for "Cases" which - since Omicron infection is relatively mild and spreads so fast - are impossible to count. Furthermore there are four options for "Cases" and the other three show the advantage of being vaccinated.
They could have chosen "Hospitalizations". It's much closer to a real-world indication because parents tend to take their kids in when they're really sick. If you take the trouble to look at the "Hospitalization" graphs for kids all four options show the advantage of being vaccinated.
So out of the eight options for kids they chose the only one that fits their narrative and never mentioned that the other data was presented.
They have doubts about Figure 4, the one you like:
"However, because this group includes such a wide age range it is possible that this potentially extremely disturbing statistic remains strongly confounded by age. Therefore, without a finer age categorisation it is impossible to tell what the actual difference in all-cause deaths might be. Why the age confounding was not apparent in weeks 1 to 5 when only the most vulnerable were being vaccinated remains unexplained. Where age groups are narrower, 60-69, 70-79 and 80+, the age confounding effects are somewhat mitigated, and the data appear to show (in each of these age groups) a lower all-cause mortality for the vaccinated, compared to the unvaccinated. See Figures 5, 6 and 7. "
And Figures 5, 6, and 7 all show the advantage of being vaccinated.
So, young people skew the stats, eh? Damn young people dying because of the covid vaccines ruins the stats for everybody.
Look at the charts, though...See the trajectory? The trajectory is going in the wrong direction. These stats are up to Sept, 2021. Recent stats will be worse. We won't see the recent stats for a few more months, at least.
You haven't presented any evidence of that yet. Neither has OP.
Except for that stats that you specifically pointed out.