CDC chief Rochelle Walensky said earlier this week that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick.”
But the health agency clarified the statement Thursday, saying “the evidence isn’t clear” and that Walensky was “speaking broadly.”
“It’s possible that some people who are fully vaccinated could get COVID-19,” a CDC spokesperson told the New York Times. “The evidence isn’t clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence.”
She was having a conversation, not reading a prepared statement. The balance of her message was that she was worried about rising numbers in the present but thought she could be optimistic about the future. Her words were tentative: "our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus" https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442
In the same interview she encouraged mask wearing and social distancing for everyone, vaccinated or otherwise. Wise advice, as it turns out, given that Delta was just a whisper, and Omicron was months away.
The mis-interpretation of her interview was immediately walked back by the CDC: April 1, 2021 "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday walked back controversial comments made by its director, Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky" https://archive.ph/wQAKO#selection-555.0-555.13
Locking people in their homes for 2 years to "reduce load" on an industry that exists specifically to carry that load. Something thats vague enough to not be easily quantifiable
Instead of addressing a decades long issue of lack of nurses [they made it worse by firing the disobedient unvaccinated] lack of beds, lack of hospitals-- instead they passed the burden on to the average citizen by removing their rights and locking them in their homes. Forcing procedures to be able to live any kind of a regular life [with conditional,shifting goalposts] forcing them to wear articles of clothing against their will and crashing the economy while demolishing small business - ruining lives. Our "glorious leaders" faced few if any penalty or inconvenience under and after the lockdowns. Neither did "Medical experts" like Bill Gates. Toss your links in the trash they're meaningless
But the bigger issue is that regardless of how many .gov sources you throw towards the wall there is no justification for what the government has done over the last 2 years and your insistence in justifying it is so disgusting you really should rethink your life. Nothing you say will convince anyone otherwise.
an industry that exists specifically to carry that load
You are free to believe that the healthcare system was all tooled up and standing around waiting around for a global pandemic.
Toss your links in the trash they're meaningless
The medical journal studies and articles are the best information, from the most qualified people we have, of what's going on. Believing anonymous Internet trolls and grifters like Alex Berenson is a personal choice, and it isn't based on science.
[they made it worse by firing .... conditional,shifting goalposts
Global pandemics are natural disasters, like hurricanes and earthquakes. If you think that being damaged by them is the fault of some academic / government employees, you are sadly out of touch with the real world.
2 - 3 of them plainly say - like every vaccine trial - that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
3 - the one journalist that does say it is referencing a speculation in a conversation - not a prepared public statement - from an official who, in the same conversation, stressed the need for continued mask use, social distancing, and vaccination in the light of the rising hospitalization and fatality numbers. You can read a transcript here: https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442
It's disappointing that despite the immediate clarification by her organization and the medical community in general, and the more than doubling of the deaths in the 19 months since, that that misrepresentation of her comment is still being trotted out.
that was the point with the vax pass and segregation of the unvaxed.
To never get infected? Nope.
It was to lessen the severity of the infections overall, and reduce the load on the healthcare system.
April 28, 2021 "As our vaccination efforts continue to expand, COVID-19 patients will not overwhelm health care systems – leaving hospital staff, beds, and services available for people who need them for other medical conditions." https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0428-vaccinated-adults-less-hospitalized.html
More Tuchodi ignorance and smugness.
The CDC Director did falsely claim the vaccinated wouldn’t get infected.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/
She was having a conversation, not reading a prepared statement. The balance of her message was that she was worried about rising numbers in the present but thought she could be optimistic about the future. Her words were tentative: "our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus" https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442
In the same interview she encouraged mask wearing and social distancing for everyone, vaccinated or otherwise. Wise advice, as it turns out, given that Delta was just a whisper, and Omicron was months away.
The mis-interpretation of her interview was immediately walked back by the CDC: April 1, 2021 "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday walked back controversial comments made by its director, Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky" https://archive.ph/wQAKO#selection-555.0-555.13
April 2 2021 "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday distanced itself from comments made by its director, Rochelle Walensky," https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-vaccination-comments-director-rochelle-walensky-2021-4
April 2 2021 "CDC reverses statement by director that vaccinated people are no longer contagious" https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/546234-cdc-reverses-statement-by-director-that-vaccinated-people-are-no/
April 6 2021 "Backlash and reversal after CDC director says vaccinated people cannot spread COVID-19" https://nationalpost.com/news/world/backlash-and-reversal-after-cdc-director-says-vaccinated-people-cannot-spread-covid-19
But some people stopped listening on March 30 2021 because they had what they wanted to hear.
You're a fucking idiot if you still believe any of this shit.
What's your reason for believing something else?
Locking people in their homes for 2 years to "reduce load" on an industry that exists specifically to carry that load. Something thats vague enough to not be easily quantifiable
Instead of addressing a decades long issue of lack of nurses [they made it worse by firing the disobedient unvaccinated] lack of beds, lack of hospitals-- instead they passed the burden on to the average citizen by removing their rights and locking them in their homes. Forcing procedures to be able to live any kind of a regular life [with conditional,shifting goalposts] forcing them to wear articles of clothing against their will and crashing the economy while demolishing small business - ruining lives. Our "glorious leaders" faced few if any penalty or inconvenience under and after the lockdowns. Neither did "Medical experts" like Bill Gates. Toss your links in the trash they're meaningless
I bet I cant even find 4 examples: https://scored.co/c/NoNewNormal/p/15K6Stk1Xm/
But the bigger issue is that regardless of how many .gov sources you throw towards the wall there is no justification for what the government has done over the last 2 years and your insistence in justifying it is so disgusting you really should rethink your life. Nothing you say will convince anyone otherwise.
Good luck living with you
You are free to believe that the healthcare system was all tooled up and standing around waiting around for a global pandemic.
The medical journal studies and articles are the best information, from the most qualified people we have, of what's going on. Believing anonymous Internet trolls and grifters like Alex Berenson is a personal choice, and it isn't based on science.
Global pandemics are natural disasters, like hurricanes and earthquakes. If you think that being damaged by them is the fault of some academic / government employees, you are sadly out of touch with the real world.
1 - those are journalists, not scientists.
2 - 3 of them plainly say - like every vaccine trial - that the vaccines do not stop transmission.
3 - the one journalist that does say it is referencing a speculation in a conversation - not a prepared public statement - from an official who, in the same conversation, stressed the need for continued mask use, social distancing, and vaccination in the light of the rising hospitalization and fatality numbers. You can read a transcript here: https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442
It's disappointing that despite the immediate clarification by her organization and the medical community in general, and the more than doubling of the deaths in the 19 months since, that that misrepresentation of her comment is still being trotted out.