For that to be true the hospitals would have been plugged and elective surgeries cancelled before covid, because of all the fatties and addicts. Maybe you think they were.
You can play the "don't talk about covid, talk about fatties and addicts" card all you want. It saves you from having to address the fact that unvaccinated people get sicker and die more often from covid. Here, I'll give you the links again so you can ignore them again:
September 8, 2022 "In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2796235
November 16, 2022 "Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 4.1 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 1.7 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 3.5 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 2.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 3.3 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series.
that unvaccinated people get sicker and die more often from covid
But you conveniently ignore the obvious. Does a vaxxed fattie have a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person? The answer is yes, of course. The vaxx is not a magic bullet that makes all your other comorbidities and bad health choices irrelevant.
Even if you were right about that, unvaxxed and vaxxed, fatties are the ones who get really sick and sometimes die in both the vaxxed and unvaxxed groups. Healthy people who are unvaxxed rarely die from covid. Being vaxxed does not suddenly make the fatties at less risk. They remain at more risk than a healthy person, even if the vaxx does what you claim about lowering risk and mortality. So you are focusing on the wrong metric. You blame the unvaxxed when you should be looking in the mirror, if you can stand it.
The simple solution and logical solution would be for the authorities to recommend weight loss as a strategy for reducing personal risk and to unburden the health care system, both before and after covid. Your donut habit costs us everyone money.
And if the fatties can't do the right thing, then we need weight mandates which I will call the Tuchodi Mandates in honor of your obesity and stultifying blindness to its effects.
For by your logic we really should enforce weight mandates, maybe make public venues subject to weigh ins, you know, as a way to convince you to do the socially responsible thing. And we should definitely ban you from planes, trains and boats. Not only will that help the fatties make the right decision, but fatties make planes burn more fuel which is bad for the environment. Do the right thing Tuchiodi~
And it goes almost without saying that mandates that ban you from restaurants would save lives - both from coronaries and by unburdening the system that devotes disproportionate resources to covid complications among the jelly people. We really need to make this happen.
And since the health risks of obesity and the health benefits of maintaining a healthy weight are known, there really cannot be any argument against the Tuchodi Mandates based on unknown risks of an untested vaxx.
It's time for a fat apartheid for the good of us all! I bet you would not support this because you are a hypocrite.
Does a vaxxed fattie have a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person? The answer is yes, of course.
Risk from covid? Nope. A person with comorbidities has a higher risk than a person without them.
As for the rest of your opinions you are entitled to them. You are free to fantasize about weight mandates and ignore what's going on in the real world.
Any time you want to attempt to explain why unvaxxed people are showing up in the hospitals, ICUs and funeral parlours at a higher rate than vaxxed people feel free.
A person with comorbidities has a higher risk than a person without them.
Exactly. It is starting to sink in despite the tuchidiocy. You are having a moment of quasi clarity. This is good.
You fatties clog up the medical system and have only made it worse since covid. Your comorbidity of fatness is what led to most of the deaths and most of the hospitalization. You are a burden. Perhaps choose MAID
Does a vaxxed fattie have a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person? The answer is yes, of course
What do you think folks? Do they have that right? A vaxxed fattie has a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person?
Kinda shows where their thinking is at.
Here's a by-no-means-complete list of other things that can give you or your loved ones an extra-hard time with covid: asthma, cancer, cerebral palsy, chronic bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis, diabetes, emphysema, epilepsy, high blood pressure, kidney disease, motor neurone disease (MND), multiple sclerosis (MS), neurofibromatosis, parkinson's disease, pneumonia, sleep apnea, ...
Then there are the people taking immunosuppressive medications after organ transplants or for conditions such as addison disease, matomyositis, graves disease, hashimoto thyroiditis, pernicious anemia, arthritis, lupus, and others.
Too bad some people have to limit their view in order to be able to support their narratives.
For that to be true the hospitals would have been plugged and elective surgeries cancelled before covid, because of all the fatties and addicts. Maybe you think they were.
You can play the "don't talk about covid, talk about fatties and addicts" card all you want. It saves you from having to address the fact that unvaccinated people get sicker and die more often from covid. Here, I'll give you the links again so you can ignore them again:
September 8, 2022 "In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2796235
November 16, 2022 "Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 4.1 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 1.7 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 3.5 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 2.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 3.3 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series.
• 3.7 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series." https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
Also:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-effectiveness
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/covid-19-hospitalizations-broken-down-by-vaccination-status
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-data
But you conveniently ignore the obvious. Does a vaxxed fattie have a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person? The answer is yes, of course. The vaxx is not a magic bullet that makes all your other comorbidities and bad health choices irrelevant.
Even if you were right about that, unvaxxed and vaxxed, fatties are the ones who get really sick and sometimes die in both the vaxxed and unvaxxed groups. Healthy people who are unvaxxed rarely die from covid. Being vaxxed does not suddenly make the fatties at less risk. They remain at more risk than a healthy person, even if the vaxx does what you claim about lowering risk and mortality. So you are focusing on the wrong metric. You blame the unvaxxed when you should be looking in the mirror, if you can stand it.
The simple solution and logical solution would be for the authorities to recommend weight loss as a strategy for reducing personal risk and to unburden the health care system, both before and after covid. Your donut habit costs us everyone money.
And if the fatties can't do the right thing, then we need weight mandates which I will call the Tuchodi Mandates in honor of your obesity and stultifying blindness to its effects.
For by your logic we really should enforce weight mandates, maybe make public venues subject to weigh ins, you know, as a way to convince you to do the socially responsible thing. And we should definitely ban you from planes, trains and boats. Not only will that help the fatties make the right decision, but fatties make planes burn more fuel which is bad for the environment. Do the right thing Tuchiodi~
And it goes almost without saying that mandates that ban you from restaurants would save lives - both from coronaries and by unburdening the system that devotes disproportionate resources to covid complications among the jelly people. We really need to make this happen.
And since the health risks of obesity and the health benefits of maintaining a healthy weight are known, there really cannot be any argument against the Tuchodi Mandates based on unknown risks of an untested vaxx.
It's time for a fat apartheid for the good of us all! I bet you would not support this because you are a hypocrite.
Risk from covid? Nope. A person with comorbidities has a higher risk than a person without them.
As for the rest of your opinions you are entitled to them. You are free to fantasize about weight mandates and ignore what's going on in the real world.
Any time you want to attempt to explain why unvaxxed people are showing up in the hospitals, ICUs and funeral parlours at a higher rate than vaxxed people feel free.
Exactly. It is starting to sink in despite the tuchidiocy. You are having a moment of quasi clarity. This is good.
You fatties clog up the medical system and have only made it worse since covid. Your comorbidity of fatness is what led to most of the deaths and most of the hospitalization. You are a burden. Perhaps choose MAID
What do you think folks? Do they have that right? A vaxxed fattie has a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person?
Kinda shows where their thinking is at.
Here's a by-no-means-complete list of other things that can give you or your loved ones an extra-hard time with covid: asthma, cancer, cerebral palsy, chronic bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis, diabetes, emphysema, epilepsy, high blood pressure, kidney disease, motor neurone disease (MND), multiple sclerosis (MS), neurofibromatosis, parkinson's disease, pneumonia, sleep apnea, ...
Then there are the people taking immunosuppressive medications after organ transplants or for conditions such as addison disease, matomyositis, graves disease, hashimoto thyroiditis, pernicious anemia, arthritis, lupus, and others.
Too bad some people have to limit their view in order to be able to support their narratives.