Read ScoobyDoo's post history folks: https://omegacanada.win/u/DoggyDawg/. They're obsessed with "fatties". They have a link that says it's better not to be overweight if you get covid and that's all they want to know.
They don't care what the other comorbidities might be, or what the major ones are.
Imagine being such a weak-willed glutton that instead of controlling your own appetite and losing some weight you go full fascist and seek to impose vaxx mandates on everyone else, hoping to avoid the consequences of your poor life choices. And now that the link between your obesity and high covid risk has been conclusively established, you try to argue that everyone's fat so it doesn't matter.
They don't care what the other comorbidities might be, or what the major ones are.
You’re right. Other comorbidies that increase risk of covid death include things like type 2 diabetes, chronic liver disease, and cancer, all of which obesity plays a large part in the development of these conditions.
If there weren’t so many fat people, covid wouldn’t even be a thing.
I like how jigglypuff is so defensive about his fatness that he has the same stock response ready to copy and paste, whenever someone confronts him with the hard truth that being obese is a covid comorbidity and a key predictor of death or serious complications. https://youtu.be/o4I_4i0_LeU?t=43
Kinder12 seems to be one of those people who like to keep it simple. Here's a by-no-means-complete list of other things that can give you or your loved ones an extra-hard time when they catch covid: asthma, cancer, cerebral palsy, chronic bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis, diabetes, emphysema, epilepsy, high blood pressure, kidney disease, motor neurone disease (MND), multiple sclerosis (MS), neurofibromatosis, parkinson's disease, pneumonia, sleep apnea, ...
Then there are the people taking immunosuppressive medications after organ transplants or for conditions such as addison disease, matomyositis, graves disease, hashimoto thyroiditis, pernicious anemia, arthritis, lupus, and others.
Show the folks where being fat fits on the list of all the comorbidities that can worsen the outcome of a covid infection.
ScoobyDoo can't do this folks. They are fixated on what they call "fatties" and don't dare present any information that includes any other comorbidity, because it shows their tunnel vision.
Our findings suggest that obesity is significantly associated with increased severity and higher mortality among COVID-19 patients. Therefore, the inclusion of obesity or its surrogate body mass index in prognostic scores and improvement of guidelines for patient care management is recommended.
Being overweight increases the risk of COVID-19-related hospitalisations but not death, while obesity and extreme obesity increase the risk of both COVID-19-related hospitalisations and death. These findings suggest that prompt access to COVID-19 care, prioritisation for COVID-19 vaccination and other preventive measures are warranted for this vulnerable group. (Because they are too woke to say the fatsos should lose weight and leave the vulnerable group)
At a BMI of more than 23 kg/m2, we found a linear increase in risk of severe COVID-19 leading to admission to hospital and death, and a linear increase in admission to an ICU across the whole BMI range, which is not attributable to excess risks of related diseases. The relative risk due to increasing BMI is particularly notable people younger than 40 years and of Black ethnicity.
Obesity was independently linked to prolonged hospital length of stay in COVID-19 without any comorbidity. Larger prospective trials are required to assess the role of obesity in COVID-19 related deaths.
I never said that fatness is the only comorbidity. You are setting up a straw man argument to dodge the issue.
For example, having cancer is a commorbity which makes your survival of covid doubtful. But even though cancer is sometimes associated with lifestyle choices, once you have it you cannot change that.
Obesity is however something entirely within your control, and a relatively easy fix.
It is fat hypocritical vaxxers who would prefer to fire or imprison the unvaxxed, to buy themselves what they think is some safety, rather than look at what they can do to lower their own risk.
Kind of like you encouraging fit people to get a covid vaccine long after studies have shown that it’s basically fat people that die of covid.
"78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html
About 80% of the US population is overweight or obese https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
So the percentage of overweight/obese people in the US population and in the hospital with covid is about the same, (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html / https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity) so while it's better to be healthy (which is what her link says) the statement that "it’s basically fat people that die of covid" is pretty dumb.
Being overweight is on some lists of covid comorbidities, but it's not near the top. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-who-is-at-risk/art-20483301 / https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/people-high-risk-for-severe-illness-covid-19.html
But no doubt she'll refuse to look at anything else. Like she says: she doesn't need it. She has what she wants to hear.
Fat people are 391% more likely to die from covid
Read ScoobyDoo's post history folks: https://omegacanada.win/u/DoggyDawg/. They're obsessed with "fatties". They have a link that says it's better not to be overweight if you get covid and that's all they want to know.
They don't care what the other comorbidities might be, or what the major ones are.
You, on the other hand, may want to know:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-who-is-at-risk/art-20483301
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/people-high-risk-for-severe-illness-covid-19.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-care/underlyingconditions.html
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-covid19-who-is-at-higher-risk
It sucks being a fat boomer eh Covid Nazi.
Get boosted. The sniffles can kill you. Follow your Politifact fact checkers and your Reddit experts!
Imagine being such a weak-willed glutton that instead of controlling your own appetite and losing some weight you go full fascist and seek to impose vaxx mandates on everyone else, hoping to avoid the consequences of your poor life choices. And now that the link between your obesity and high covid risk has been conclusively established, you try to argue that everyone's fat so it doesn't matter.
What a tuchidiot!
You’re right. Other comorbidies that increase risk of covid death include things like type 2 diabetes, chronic liver disease, and cancer, all of which obesity plays a large part in the development of these conditions.
If there weren’t so many fat people, covid wouldn’t even be a thing.
I like how jigglypuff is so defensive about his fatness that he has the same stock response ready to copy and paste, whenever someone confronts him with the hard truth that being obese is a covid comorbidity and a key predictor of death or serious complications. https://youtu.be/o4I_4i0_LeU?t=43
Agreed. Emphasis on "a".
Nope. Just one of many. And if you took the time to read the links I provided you would see that. Here, I'll make it easy for you: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-who-is-at-risk/art-20483301 / https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/people-high-risk-for-severe-illness-covid-19.html
Kinder12 seems to be one of those people who like to keep it simple. Here's a by-no-means-complete list of other things that can give you or your loved ones an extra-hard time when they catch covid: asthma, cancer, cerebral palsy, chronic bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis, diabetes, emphysema, epilepsy, high blood pressure, kidney disease, motor neurone disease (MND), multiple sclerosis (MS), neurofibromatosis, parkinson's disease, pneumonia, sleep apnea, ...
Then there are the people taking immunosuppressive medications after organ transplants or for conditions such as addison disease, matomyositis, graves disease, hashimoto thyroiditis, pernicious anemia, arthritis, lupus, and others.
Show the folks where being fat fits on the list of all the comorbidities that can worsen the outcome of a covid infection.
ScoobyDoo can't do this folks. They are fixated on what they call "fatties" and don't dare present any information that includes any other comorbidity, because it shows their tunnel vision.
Don’t need a list. Fat people are unhealthy. I don’t care if you’re fat, so calm down.
Here you go!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9205425/
https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2022/01/18/bmjnph-2021-000375
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00089-9/fulltext
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9372447/
Yep. It's a comorbidity alright.
Claiming it's the only one is dumb.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-who-is-at-risk/art-20483301
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/people-high-risk-for-severe-illness-covid-19.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-care/underlyingconditions.html
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-covid19-who-is-at-higher-risk
I never said that fatness is the only comorbidity. You are setting up a straw man argument to dodge the issue.
For example, having cancer is a commorbity which makes your survival of covid doubtful. But even though cancer is sometimes associated with lifestyle choices, once you have it you cannot change that.
Obesity is however something entirely within your control, and a relatively easy fix.
It is fat hypocritical vaxxers who would prefer to fire or imprison the unvaxxed, to buy themselves what they think is some safety, rather than look at what they can do to lower their own risk.