Doctors warned to stop telling obese patients ‘eat less, move more’ is their treatment
People in developed countries will no longer have severe or complex obesity in the future because of medical advances – but telling people to eat less and move more is not a treatment, a leading expert said yesterday.
Big Pharma can't monetize self-control and exercise.
Folks, my boosters and obesity sent me to the ICU for two months.
My 4th pfizer clot left me paralyzed with fecal tumors in the brain that are metastasizing. I welcome my pfizer death. I’m a vaccinated dumb fuck
If you want to lose weight, increase physical activity and decrease caloric intake. This is a fact.
Experts are saying mRNA vaccines against obesity are safe and effective for children, will be mandated for school kids next year.
Make sure kids don’t exercise and give them fast food. Experts says both fast food and inactivity is very good for your heart.
Link?
A leading expert yesterday says you are wrong, CDC stats confirm that exercise and diet has no impact of peoples weight.
Only vaccinations can help with obesity.
I guess that's one of the two groups people can control.
Do you have anything to say about the other six?
My advice on the others is stop being retarded.
Not sure what you mean.
Ignore the other five groups? Pretend that only diet and exercise matter?
Are you saying those 2 have no impact to where they should be ignored entirely
the other ones-- had to look them up-- found NCBI talking about 'racism' and 'socioeconomic status'. Perhaps this car mechanic/ health expert/ vaccine scientist/ copy past champion of 2023/ definitely not a sussybaka impostoru can present the others and say how uncontrollable they really are
Urallfucked must be so happy his boss/boyfriend is back. again.
Cute. This is a classic straw man fallacy folks: "the distortion of someone else’s argument to make it easier to attack"
Sure she did. She can't produce any links though.
Just to re-focus: there are people in this forum who desperately want to consider obesity only as a character flaw / personal failure, and don't like the idea that it might be a disease.
As the article says: "Obesity has now been moved from the healthy eating section of the HSE (Ireland's Health Service Executive) to the chronic disease area."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK278977/ kthx
You havent mentioned a single one. Still havent. Yet you put so much emphasis on their importance over the others I thought Id just ask you to establish your priorities. if you have any
I guess its the elimination of any and all personal responsibility....?
other than $0.25/post
The discussion is about whether there are any. Some anonymous non-experts here pretend there aren't while the expert in Reeferman's post says there are.
An excellent list: Geography, Food Availability, Transportation, Work Environment , Advances in Communication Technology, Social Hierarchy
Thank you.
I do. Whether they can actually lose weight or not due to their own personal determinants, increasing physical activity and decreasing caloric intake improves overall health for everyone.
Yeah, you mentioned that one already.
Anything else?
Yes, fat people that are fat due to life choices, which is the majority of fat people, should be ridiculed.
She can read the article and learn from someone who knows more than her - especially the part about "there are 198 determinants of obesity and they fall in to seven groups – five of which are outside people’s control" - or she can remain willfully ignorant, continuing to claim "fat people that are fat due to life choices, which is the majority of fat people" as those she has done an accredited, peer-reviewed study, or can find one to support her opinion.
It's her choice folks.
Sure, you can pretend to be naive and make excuses for being fat, but the rest of us know what time it is…
Overweight and obesity, as well as their related noncommunicable diseases, are largely preventable and manageable.
She chose to ignore the actual steps prescribed in her ink folks:
"Obesity is a societal rather than an individual responsibility, with the solutions to be found through the creation of supportive environments and communities that embed healthy diets and regular physical activity as the most accessible, available and affordable behaviours of daily life.
Stopping the rise in obesity demands multisectoral actions such as food manufacturing, marketing and pricing and others that seek to address the wider determinants of health (such as poverty reduction and urban planning).
Such policies and actions include:
The food industry can play a significant role in promoting healthy diets by:
How about providing the folks with some links to papers you've presented at medical conferences?
You first
for anything.
Car mechanic-- even thats doubtful
She seems to think she's arguing with me folks. I guess she wants to ignore what the expert in the article is saying.
Snore. You never put your own opinions forward just links. Yawn snooze snooze
FOLKS!!!
Those links connect to what people who have relevant training and experience have to say. That seems more important.
One endocrinologist folks.
Just one.
"Speaking at the annual meeting of the Irish Medical Organisation (IMO), Prof O’Shea said there are 198 determinants of obesity and they fall in to seven groups – five of which are outside people’s control."
You seem to be taking him at his word pretty readily. You've mentioned that 6 category thing over and over and over again despite him being only 1 endocron (your words). Maybe hes wrong about those categories too. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmfoollllkksssss
Why not? He knows a lot more about the subject than you or Reeferman.
I believe him. I think you're absolutely hopelessly full of shit
FOOOOOLLLLLKSSSS
See what I mean folks? She believes the experts but prefers to argue with anonymous people on obscure social media sites.
Odd.