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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

“ don't see how you can read these passages from your link and proclaim that people who have survived covid will not increase the load on the healthcare system if they can be vaccinated but choose not to.”

They won’t increase the load as much as the vaccinated who don’t enjoy natural immunity.

They’re a lower risk than you are, but since they’re not making a decision to gain another layer of protection above yours, you want them to lose they lose the same rights you enjoy with your inferior protection.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everyone can take steps to be healthier, why do most people settle for less than optimal health then wind up in the hospital? Being lazy isn’t a good excuse.

Best protection- Natural + Vax Immunity Even Better protection- Natural Immunity Excellent Protection- Vax Immunity Very Good Protection- Immune System

Why does second from the bottom get his rights while second from the top doesn’t?

Your best answer is they could do something to be healthier, but since they didn’t, they lose their fundamental rights.

Let’s take it to the next logical step and use vaxports to regulate calorie intake.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Those with natural immunity have better protection than you have with vaccine immunity.

You’re saying their immunity could be even more superior to yours.

You should be the one with restrictions on your movements.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesn’t matter that someone has to “not die of covid to get it”.

I’m not telling people to go out and get infected to acquire it, I’m pointing out that for you it’s not about science, it’s about politics.

Some countries recognize natural immunity in the context of vaxports and some don’t. They all have the same science and make political decisions based on it.

I’m against the politics of discrimination, you’re not.

You don’t seem to care if someone has a better better protection than you, you want them discriminated against until they follow your political dictate, while you can go about your life.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

The study behind the article I linked to went from May 2021 to Nov 2021, so not over a year ago, yet another of your lies.

I don’t know why you’re incapable of processing the extremely simple concept that natural immunity is real and provides protection. You advocate for policy that ignores this fact. That’s political.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM73434&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2071%2C%20January%2019%2C%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM73434

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let me get this straight- you think the vaccine designed for v1 covid, which is inferior to natural immunity in the context of Delta is going to be superior to natural immunity for Omicron?

I’m not sure why this is hard for you, but the vax immunity is only against the spike and from original c19, natural immunity is against the whole virus and based on the strain of infection. That’s the reason natural immunity is superior.

Try to use your brain, natural immunity from Omicron is going to be specific to omicron variant. Your precious vax is for v1 Covid19.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah it’s the study the report was based on. Sorry you’re not capable of following links or conducting searches, probably why you are so misinformed

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

More false information, it went up to November of last year

COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations by COVID-19 Vaccination Status and Previous COVID-19 Diagnosis — California and New York, May–November 2021

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CanadianRighty 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes we should never have locked down, it’s a terrible political decision.

I’m just pointing out the absurdity in Tuchodis unscientific political position

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay and that group is still less likely to present in hospital than you are even if they ignore that advice.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

People who have natural immunity are more protected than you with only vax immunity

You want to have more access than them anyway, because of your politics.

Other countries recognize that group due to the science, you won’t because of politics.

Illogical positions like this are one of reasons for vaccine hesitancy.

You are part of the problem, but are too blinded by your ideology to accept it.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

“ It's only superior for people who have no access to vaccines.”

False information, natural immunity is simply superior to vax immunity.

Both forms together being superior to either one alone is irrelevant to that fact.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

They already have superior protection to you, they should be able to go out and you should be locked in your house to protect the hospitals

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

And you can’t understand why it’s wrong to discriminate against people with superior protection to yours, if they can’t go to a restaurant neither should you be able to

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

“People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant “

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

having natural immunity is superior to immunity from the vaccine alone

The rest is just political noise.

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

“People who survived a previous infection had lower rates of COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated alone.”

Your political position is that those with superior protection to yours be denied going placed you’re allowed to go because a politician said so.

Thats not science that’s politics

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

“people who survived a previous infection had lower rates of COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated alone.“

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could search the quote in google and see it’s real, not sure why it doesn’t show up for you but it does for me

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh so because they’re too lazy to lose weight they shouldn’t be held to the same standard? That’s a political opinion.

Why the hell are you still talking about the contagious element? Everyone spreads it regardless of vaccination status. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Also since you asked the answer yes, it appears many people with T cells from previous coronavirus many time do have a pre existing natural immunity.

“Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2-reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40%-60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating "common cold" coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32473127/

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CanadianRighty 1 point ago +1 / -0

you want to bar people from society even though they have a superior immunity to those who can move freely

It’s evil

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