it's not semantics. it's literally entirely different definitions, and WITH covid is massively larger than FROM covid. you're not here in good faith, you're completely ignorant of facts and science. get the fuck out you anti-science zealot. you're not welcome here with that low IQ religious bullshit.
one thing at a time. do you accept we're measuring deaths WITH covid rather than deaths FROM covid?
one thing at a time. do you accept we're measuring deaths WITH covid rather than deaths FROM covid?
before i address that, do you accept that "covid deaths" as measured in the US and UK is "deaths with potential covid" rather than "deaths from covid"?
if your answer is no, then you're on your own because you clearly don't care about facts and evidence.
now get fucked you tranny faggot
https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/hochul-orders-clearer-accounting-of-covid-cases-in-hospitals/
New York state hospitals will have to start reporting the numbers of patients being treated for symptoms of COVID-19 separately from those who test positive after being admitted for other reasons, Gov. Kathy Hochul said Monday.
Hochul said that amid a surge in hospitalizations tied to the spread of the highly contagious Omicron variant, she was “disappointed to see that at least a certain percentage overall are not related to being treated for COVID.”
Hochul said she’d “been doing a random call around to some of the hospital leaders that I touch base with” and was “seeing numbers from 20 to sometimes 50 percent.”
The reported number of COVID-19 hospitalizations, one of the primary metrics for tracking the severity of the coronavirus pandemic, was grossly inflated for children in California hospitals, two research papers published Wednesday concluded. The papers, both published in the journal Hospital Pediatrics, found that pediatric hospitalizations for COVID-19 were overcounted by at least 40 percent, carrying potential implications for nationwide figures. ... Taken together, these studies underscore the importance of clearly distinguishing between children hospitalized with SARS-CoV-2 found on universal testing versus those hospitalized for COVID-19 disease.
nowhere does ANY official source expressly say they're "deaths or hospitalizations caused by covid". it's always "deaths or hospitalizations with covid". you're just completely fucking wrong.
i literally cited exactly what they said.
no. you refuse to accept the literal words of official sources. i'm not spending time to find you another source. go the fuck away you retard troll.
you still haven't accepted plain text in the other sources, i'm not wasting the time to search up the source for you for this. find it yourself you fucking cultist.
they expressly admit it's WITH covid, not FROM covid in all of them. if you don't want to accept that, you're fucking retarded.
multiple studies are out showing it inflates the #s by easily 50%+. the NY governor this week admitted it's massively inflated.
don't be such a fucking clown. this isn't reddit. that hysterical anti-science bullshit doesn't work here.
are you living under a rock?
it's on the UK PHE website. https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/12/behind-the-headlines-counting-covid-19-deaths/
For several months, the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. ...
The additional indicators which will be used to calculate daily death figures are: the number of deaths in people with COVID-19 that occur within 28 days of a first positive laboratory-confirmed test. ... the number of deaths that occur within 60 days of a first positive test. Deaths that occur after 60 days will also be added to this figure if COVID-19 appears on the death certificate
it's on the CDC website. https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2020/Final_COCA_Call_Slides_04_16_2020.pdf
Provisional numbers of deaths coded to ICD-10 code U07.1
– Includes deaths with COVID-19 as the underlying cause or contributing cause
– Includes deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19
shit, the US doesn't even require a positive test...
In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf#page=2
and the NY governor finally admitted it out loud when people were accusing her of bungling the covid response and the numbers shot up. hospitalizations and deaths as counted in most of the west are those WITH covid, not FROM covid. if you die in a drive-by and your swiss cheese corpse tests positive, you're legally a covid death. this is why the numbers are massively inflated.
no. you're intentionally misleading people by forcing everyone into a one-size-fits-all approach. you're mixing healthy people under 65, for which even hospitalization is a fraction of 1%, with old and unhealthy people. 100% of "covid deaths" are merely people who died WITH covid rather than FROM covid, and 95% had multiple comorbidities.
covid poses no measurably increased danger to healthy people under 65. walking across the street is more dangerous than covid for healthy people under 65. because the risk is so low, it doesn't take much for vaccine injury from the injections to be more dangerous than covid. and multiple studies are out now proving unequivocally, the vaccine is killing more healthy people under 65 than covid.
you're a fucking troll. you lost, and now you're trying to move the goalposts. you'd lose on that too, but i'm not going to say anything other than to tell you to fuck off for trolling. your low IQ trolling has no power here. you reddit faggots can go back to chopping your dicks off. you'll still never be a real woman.