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ratsandpies 6 points ago +6 / -0

I don't know why anyone would have thought that O'Toole would do anything different.
Let me put it to you this way, this is 1974 and that O'Toole is Stanfield.
He is going to try to win this election by coming in left of Trudeau when it comes to social issues and hand him another majority.
The son is wielding his father's tactic. O'Toole has no idea that half his MP's have been photographed with Proud Boys, and most of the Premiers to boot.
He's so obsessed with "attracting the people who have never seen themselves as conservatives" that he'll not only go along with whatever flavour-of-the-month bullshit Trudeau is pitching, he'll go farther than him.
The Proud Boys aren't racist, they never were racist and they have a track record of throwing out any racist who joins. Erin O'Toole knows that, is isn't retarded, he's just conniving.
So anyone who joined what was realistically speaking, a drinking club started by Gavin McInnes and whose Canadian branch has been involved in zero street fights, zero white supremacy, and who I'm pretty sure has never even had single confrontation with either anti-fa or BLM and whose only sin was talking Chief Grizzly-mama (yeah) out of trashing a Cornwallis Statue on Canada Day is now going to be labeled a terrorist.
O'Toole may be the most spineless party leader in Canadian history.
Get ready for 10 more years of Trudeau. I wish it wasn't in the cards but at this point it's inevitable and the sad thing is that I'd rather have him as PM than O'Toole, Singh, or Paul.
Shut up when speaking out doesn't benefit you, craft policies that are favourable to your base in order to convince them to come out and vote, and downplay any extremists in your grassroots.
I don't get why that's so hard? All the other parties have no problem with pretending that their extremists don't even exist and the Proud Boys aren't even extremists. I watched Trudeau skate through taking Jaspar Atwal to India as a part of a diplomatic envoy yet Erin O'Toole is going to designate the Proud Boys terrorists?
Summer election, Trudeau majority.
Fuck Erin O'Toole sucks.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's good for us because Trudeau can go back to sucking off the US President instead of provoking him every chance he gets.
Biden is on China's payroll so the entire Meng thing is over and that cunt gets to go free. The two Michaels will still most likely be executed but as far as I'm concerned the NGO workers can go fuck themselves.
As far as the border-hopping Africans go, Trudeau can now declare the States to be safe for refugees so Roxham Road closes.
As for hilarity, the US' first female president will be the same as our first female PM; unelected, voted out after a short period of time and to make things even funnier, she also knowingly kept an innocent man in prison for the sake of her political career.
So all in all, not bad so far as Canada goes although there's a 99% chance a bunch of our soldiers die in a stupid, pointless war where the US is simultaneously fighting alongside us and funding our enemies.
Like in Aghanistan, Iraq and Syria.
As for the other scenario, that'll be the nuclear option although I don't think that's as unlikely as people think. Everyone knows that there was foreign interference and election fraud, so there's a realistic chance we get to watch Trump purge like Robespierre before suffering his fate, and watch as an actual Emperor emerges (probably from the ranks of the artillery. A gunnery Captain or something.)
What will actually happen in the States though, is the same thing as usual. The MAGA people are a small percentage of the people who voted for Trump and what you have to watch is the silent majority. They'll punish the GOP Congress in the primaries then take back the House in two years time, and the same for the Senate.
Cruz will beat out Pence in 2024 and take the Presidency.
Trump will start a free-speech social media platform which will initially be profitable, then tank horribly and he'll use the losses to write off his taxes, just like he did with Trump University, Trump Steaks, and about 18 other ventures.
Biden will legislate twice, Harris won't legislate at all because even when all 3 US houses are aligned, US politics are US politics and nothing ever gets done in their system.
So no matter what happens, it will be fine. Shit is always fine, even if it's always shit.

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ratsandpies 5 points ago +5 / -0

I wouldn't.
It's truly amazing how many "political freedom organizations" are fucking close to being what most of us would consider to be the worst kind of organized crime.
Having to send "protection" money back to their countries of origin because some fucking terrorist group that they probably don't like in the slightest "sponsored" their refugee claim.
Even worse, then they get to watch their kids protest and fundraise for the movement that forced them to leave their country. I'd guess that they'd want to say something the entire time but don't, because they know that they're in bed with monsters and that their kids' safety depends on just going along with the bullshit.
We really need an overhaul of the refugee system. We're supposed to be giving sanctuary.

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ratsandpies 10 points ago +10 / -0

That was the most annoying thing in the fucking world.
I sympathize with their plight but the Tamil Tigers were a fucking awful group of hideous terrorist who accomplished nothing but brutality, death and destruction.
Then all of a sudden there's protests every July, students displaying monuments dedicated to dead terrorists, and all kinds of fundraising aimed at resurrecting the corpse of a vicious group.
In Canada no less.
I wonder how the Tamils who came here to escape the shit they stirred felt about that? I can understand why they weren't speaking out but I wonder how they felt?
It was an utter disgrace.

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ratsandpies 2 points ago +2 / -0

No she doesn't.
Her party is the one who is most in favour of lockdowns and there's a shit ton of ordinary Canadians who haven't been able to see their ailing loved ones this year because of policies that she's touted.
She can fuck right off. Being in the political class doesn't mean that the rules don't apply to her and I'm appalled that she gave herself special dispensation to do something that ordinary Canadians can't according to the rules that her own party has imposed on them.

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ratsandpies 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't worry, it was to be with her sick grandmother.
As no Canadian is being kept from seeing their ailing grandparents at the moment, I'd say this is a completely acceptable explanation.
I mean, what kind of sick monster would speak out against someone who just wanted to hug their grandmother for the last time?
Mounotricha.

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ratsandpies 8 points ago +8 / -0

That guy can fuck right off.
So the dumb cunt who fucked up every single part of the pandemic now wants to tell me that I can have a max of 4 "drinks" (2.5 pints) on special occasions.
For comparison, the Queen has 8 "drinks" a day minimum and it doesn't seem to have done her any harm.
Terry Tam can sit on one and rotate.
One pint a day, two and a half on special occasions is an even more ridiculous ask than the masks and the lockdowns.
No, and fuck off.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's just reddit these days. It got taken over by the kind of 40 year old women who routinely use baby-talk despite being childless.
What you're seeing there appears to be an anti-Trump subreddit inspired by a smug anti-Trump tweet from a video game writer (and it appears to be one of the few subreddits left that has any original content.)
The state of that site.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesn't come from 4chan. You can tell that it doesn't come from 4chan because it isn't funny.
It's a parler/8kun/twitter/facebook affair.
I don't believe for a second that Q shit is real.
All I know is that the US legalized the use of propaganda on its own citizens in 2012 and that making the people who might rightfully be outraged at the idea of subverting the debates and rigging presidential primaries sound like they're crazy is absolutely something that the US would do.
If you don't believe me, may I direct you to all of the articles about "how to deal with your crazy conspiracy-obsessed uncle" across the US blog-o-sphere?
It's an internal propaganda op. At this point we know that the DNC cheated Bernie out of a win and paid him off. We know that Hillary was given the debate questions in advance. We know that the 2018 US elections were rife with fraud.
Yet all the crazies (and a bunch of seemingly rational people) are obsessed with the idea that the US elites are engaging in what can only be described as blood-libel.
They could be demanding accountability and that their government fix their election system but instead they're accusing the elites of drinking adrenochrome and using the blood of the most innocent Christians in J**ish rituals like they're in 13th century Italy for fuck's sake.
Believe me. It's a US psy-op designed to make people look ridiculous.

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ratsandpies 2 points ago +2 / -0

No one can predict the lifespan of communist rule.
Romania is a great example of that phenomena. 2 weeks before the revolution everything seemed to be perfectly stable and then they gave Ceaucescu a 2 hour long trial for crimes against the people, took him outside and shot him (and his wife as well for good measure.)
Communist regimes exist until the people get sick of it but there's no real way of predicting at what point they actually get sick of it.
Tianamen Square was the last time the Chinese got sick of their communist leaders and that ended in a massacre.
I don't know when they'll decide that enough is enough and go full 1789 but it's in the cards. I don't doubt that for a second.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not a Qtard and finding the 2% of the Q posts that actually came true would be a massive hassle but I assure you that they happened.
Believe me, people believe in this shit religiously because occasionally their beliefs are affirmed in a way that no mere LARPer could accomplish.
Trust me, it's a US psy-op to make the people who looked into the Podesta e-mails look like they're insane and it works, because just enough of it comes true to make those people look completely insane.
We're talking about shit like "Q posted 17:33 in his last post and the President's address was exactly 17 minutes and 33 seconds late."
Q isn't a LARP, it's an intelligence operation.

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ratsandpies 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's what we don't really understand about China.
The Chinese know better than anyone else that their government is retarded and that they do nothing but lie.
Canadians still kind of trust their government and media in a very unhealthy way. That is not something that you could say of the Chinese.
If find it completely believable that they would have listened to the policy and simply ignored it. The officials aren't that competent and they aren't adverse to bribes.
Think of Services Canada, but even more nepotistic and incompetent, and add being vulnerable to doing things for "favours."
That's what you can expect from officials under communism. The bureaucratic class gets more incompetent the more power they possess.
The Canadian housing market is a great example of that phenomena, Chinese aren't allowed to move their money out of the country and yet ever high-ranking Chinese official owns 4-5 empty McMansions in Canada.
We listen to our government and we swallow its propaganda, the Chinese don't so when we hear about their government proudly talking about their one-child policy we need to understand that their government are full of shit and that the people are ignoring them.
There are lessons to be learned from people who have lived under communism.
Most of all, don't trust the government, don't trust the media, live your life.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q spreads through twitter and facebook, and the posts are done on fucking 8chan.
It's all spread through word of mouth and screenshots, that's the beauty of it.
It's confirmed itself a thousand times if you're a believer, it sounds insane if you aren't acquainted with the posts and almost no one is getting it from the source because almost no one is willing to hang out on fucking 8chan.
It's too perfect to be organic.
There is no proof in Q. Just weird co-incidences. Enough to keep the believers believers but not enough to make any of them sound rational or even sane when they explain it.
It's a psy-op. Without a doubt.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's weird shit like Q giving a time with no other explanation, then that exact time being associated with an announcement.
Very minor shit which could just as easily be explained by serendipity but when combined seems like it has to be someone with inside knowledge.
A kid on a LARP couldn't cultivate such a following. A US agency who was trying to keep Americans from freaking out though, could absolutely do such a thing.
Qanon is art. It manages to make it's followers look completely insane while also giving them spurious real world examples which both placate them and make them sound crazy to outsiders.
"Q posted 11:17 two months ago at the bottom of his post and now a massive sex trafficking bust was announced at 11:17 today."
That kind of shit. It makes them sound crazy to outsiders but it totally confirms their faith at the same time. It seems cultish because it's exceptionally cultish and US federal agencies have been involved in an awful lot of cults over the years.
Qanon is way too perfect to be a larp, it has to be a US government agency.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very minor things associated with Q come true.
It makes the truly obsessed go fucking nuts.
Believe me, I went full retard in the last election, joined the PPC and joined in on one of their twitter "follow-parties" to boost Bernier's tweets. I have seen the shitshow that is Qanon believers to the point where I wish I hadn't.
My only thought on it is that it has to be coming from their government. Minor things from Q posts will come true and they'll all freak out because they're assured that the good guys are in charge and that they're fixing everything.
There is no possible explanation for the entire Qanon thing other than the CIA is fucking with Americans for the sake of domestic peace.
Never forget that the last time a president had a super-majority (something that every PM enjoys, the ability to legislate,) an American shot 5 Republicans at a bi-partisan charity baseball game with a rifle.
The guy responsible was a boomer Bern-out. Who knows how many other boomer Bern-outs would have reacted the same way as things became clear, but were diverted by the boomer trifecta that is Qanon?
Satanic-panic, child molestation, adrenochrome. Late seventies-early eighties boomer propaganda, mid-eighties to early nineties propaganda, 60s and 70s propaganda.
Qanon is boomer crack. You discovered this because you watch this tv program and watching this tv program makes you smart. Sit back on the couch and watch as the good guys destroy the evil doers.
Qanon is too perfect to be a larp from a kid. It has to be their government trying to keep a lid on things.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

It spread through 8chan, twitter and facebook for the most part.
Occam's razor for me is "the US government and all kinds of federal agencies constantly try their best to control any dissident group, so anything like Qanon is most likely the US government trying to get ahead of anything it sees as having the potential to threaten them."
Especially when the integrity of their elections is a concern, that's when reigning in the crazies becomes a real concern.
Let me put it this way, in 1964 the Spanish Flu returned and shortly afterwards there was a recession that made it hard for the youths to get jobs.
We know that the CIA was associated with the promotion of LSD, we know the CIA was associated with the hippy movement, and when the hippy movement became a problem we know that the CIA was associated with a bunch of new-age cults including the Manson family.
If they were willing to do that then, why wouldn't you think that they wouldn't spread Qanon conspiracy theories at a time when the DNC's significant amounts of dirty laundry was being aired?
Furthermore, when it comes to the "deep state" 4 years ago the deep state meant the career politicians and bureaucrats who wield an undemocratic amount of influence, and do it poorly. The people in safe ridings, the ones who were chosen by party elites, the ones whose careers are owed more to their outstanding skills at sychophantry than their personal integrity and accountability to their voters.
Within 4 years they've made it so that "deep state" means "satanic child-molesting cultist" in the eyes of many people.
That just screams "psy-op." By changing the meaning of the term they've managed to restore faith in the system and to make anyone who even mentions the deep state sound like a total lunatic.
That isn't something that's organic. That isn't a 4chan larp. That's a full-on government operation.

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ratsandpies 0 points ago +1 / -1

Qanon is real, but by that I mean it's a psy-op designed to stop Americans from legitimately freaking out over the Podesta emails and US election fuckery.
It worked too.
Those emails were legitimate and they confirmed that the Democrats rigged their convention, the debates, murdered a whistleblower, and were conspiring to cheat the the polls as well.
Thanks to the magic of Qanon though, we've had 4 years of people thinking that there's a massive pedo ring but that now the good guys are in charge and they're cleaning it up.
Meanwhile, in those past 4 years the Democrats have rigged their convention again, rigged the Presidential debates even further and they've rigged the US elections twice.
All while people were focused on Qanon rather than demanding change, accountability and charges. After all, the good guys are in charge now, you don't need to do anything, just sit back and wait for the next cryptic information drop then spend a bunch of time figuring out what your secret saviour meant.
It's pretty fucking insidious but it's real.

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ratsandpies 3 points ago +3 / -0

The anti-Trump propaganda is like most countries in that it's fucking bad.
First off, Trump hasn't been great for relations and while I'd say Trudeau was entirely responsible for most of the shit that went down he's also bailed out (payed off) the media (giving them hundreds of millions of dollars that went entirely to executive bonuses instead of preventing any layoffs, but it certainly worked.)
The Joe Biden propaganda is crazy, but what you'll never understand is the Hillary propaganda in Canada. There are a ton of boomer women who utterly worship her and Hillary used to do a ton of speaking tours in Canada which would all sell out.
The virile Trump hate that you'll hear from a lot of Canadians is coming from the women and it's coming from the women because Hillary has been selling herself as a feminist icon in Canada for a solid 25 years.
If Hillary calls Trump a fascist demagogue, their emotions get whipped up to the point where they honestly believe that Trump is a fascist demagogue (yes, I'm aware of the irony.)
As for would I have Trump as a Prime MInister, our system is very different from yours so the closest equivalency would be Trump as Governor General which would immediately set off a Constitution Crisis which is always problematic because technically speaking, we still don't have a constitution (Quebec were being real dicks about the thing so we dropped it and pretend we're a real country with a real constitution instead.)
Our Prime Minister is more like your Speaker of the House, so if the question was 'if we could make Nancy Pelosi Prime Minister would we do it' to which the answer is fuck no. I'd have 20 years of Trudeau before I'd endure 2 years of that psychotic hag ruling the country with carte blanche to do whatever she wants.
(It's fun to watch you boys get scared out stacking the Supreme Court when not only does our government stack the Supreme Court, it stacks the fucking Senate as well.)
Even though I voted Mad Max, it was a protest vote and he isn't going anywhere. The truth is that he was fucked out of his CPC leadership convention with Dominion software and he would have made a great PM but he's not the man to build a party from scratch.
As I say, different systems entirely.

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ratsandpies 0 points ago +1 / -1

Blooddrives and vaccines press events have entirely different aims.
One is to motivate the general populace, many of which who are total pussies about so much as the tiniest pinch and the other is to motivate a group of people who see themselves as making a heroic sacrifice.
In one you show discomfort, in the other it's all smiles and happiness.
Also, stop looking at people's accounts. It's fucking weird and google loves to drop the usernames and passwords for this site so a lot of people are on their 3rd or 4th accounts at this point. The only way to recognize people is by their posting style and I don't recognize yours.

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ratsandpies 0 points ago +2 / -2

They never show someone getting an actual shot for a TV campaign because shots hurt.
No one in their right mind would try to encourage people to do something with a video of someone in pain. It's always a smiling person who doesn't mind getting the shot and the only way to do that is to not actually give them a shot at all so they don't wince.
If you don't believe me, then have a look around and try and find any example of someone wincing or not smiling when getting their shots. It doesn't exist. They always use trick syringes for staged media events.

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ratsandpies 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm actually more interested at how they're going to rewrite the story of the King's Whore this time than the actress being black.
Portraying Anne Boleyn as being black is an insult to black people, and portraying her as a feminist is an insult to feminists.
Fucking witch.

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ratsandpies 20 points ago +20 / -0

Well, the Eskimos are going to be re-named which is particularly fucked up considering that whenever they were in the playoffs they'd show groups of Innu watching it because Edmonton was their team, and whenever they've been surveyed their reaction was "I don't mind the name at all."
It's a fucking weird country where a bunch of people from Toronto who will never even see Winnipeg, much less the territories and whose CFL team is the worst-supported in the league bullying Edmonton to change their team name because they're offended on behalf of a people who they will never even see in person, much less meet.
It's not that we're a country full of pussies, it's that we're a country whose elites are pussies and that's the real problem.
All it takes is one activist and they shit their pants.

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ratsandpies 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not in the slightest. In fact, fuck antifa riots, proudboy riots, civil disturbances, black lives matter protests, race riots, barricades, blocked off streets and especially neighbourhoods being taken over.
That shit is a hassle to deal with and the worst thing about it is that the organizers of protests are universally awful people who take advantage of gullible dumbasses to take up their stupid crusade.
How many people had their lives ruined by fucking antifa last summer in the States? A prime example was those two lawyer chicks who are going to do 40 years in jail for throwing molotovs into an empty cop car but there's thousands of other people just like them.
Gullible, stupid people who got swept up in some scumbag's attempt to be Che fucking Gueverra and who are now going to pay for their stupidity for the rest of their lives.
I'm jealous of the States for their house prices, food prices, beer prices, tobacco prices, right to bear arms, right to free speech, football teams, taxes, having a political system that allows them an unreal amount of input and because it's a lot warmer there right now but not for all of the fucking riots.
Fuck riots, fuck activists, and fuck anyone who thinks that their pet cause is a reason to annoy everyone else (who just want to get on with their life in peace.)

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ratsandpies 7 points ago +7 / -0

You can't depend on a compromised candidate if you're making a big move, traitors will always betray, it's what they do.
Taking advantage of a traitor only to betray him and install a party loyalist (and true communist ideologue) is a far better move.

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ratsandpies 17 points ago +17 / -0

I don't get why everyone else doesn't realize that. Biden was never supposed to be President when he was elected and he was just the face of the campaign.
He's got fenian blood for fuck's sake. He's corrupt as fuck, there's clear evidence that he's been subverted by China and on top of all that he's completely senile.
Kamala Harris' blood though, is deliciously elite.
Jamaican plantation owner mixed with Brahmin. She's as blue-blooded a coloured person in the States can be apart from Obama.
On top of that, her entire family has been steeped in Marxism since the times of the Bolsheviks and has been involved in all kinds of globalist initiatives.
If you look at the rise of Biden, it occurred shortly after Kamala was proving to be exceptionally unpopular and after she'd just been btfo by Tulsi.
Kamala was always the plan. Being subverted by communists doesn't mean they bribe your government, they only do that until they're strong enough and then they install true believers.
This is not good.

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