When they shut down all the small businesses and just left the big box stores open, they ended up concentrating all the shoppers together in a few big centralized locations, turning them into daily super-spreader events.
Now they're imposing curfews, as if that will somehow limit people's exposure to each other by keeping them at home more I guess?
Well here's the thing: Bars and restaurants are already closed. The only thing people are going out at night for is logistical activities like shopping - things they have to do every day regardless of curfews.
So all a curfew will accomplish is to shorten the available hours people have to carry out those logistical activities (like shopping), which will concentrate everyone into the stores during the remaining hours, which will increase social contact/exposure, not reduce it.
So like the small business shutdowns, this measure can only make things worse.
I don't believe for one second that there's any modeling that pointed to this being a good idea, because it defies logic on the face of it. At this point it's painfully obvious that governments are just taking drastic actions so they can be seen to be "doing something". And worse, there's no exit strategy. Nothing they're doing is working. None of these measures will bring an end to the pandemic (indeed they'll only make it worse), so where's the light at the end of the tunnel here? Is there one? Or is this the "new normal"?
Oh and they still don't know if the vaccines work on the new strains yet BTW.
So what are you going to do? Vote the Conservative Premiers out next election?
As for the lockdowns ... it's hard to say. They are countries which locked down hard with school closings, curfews and so on and they go the spread under control. The Czech Republic locked down and got the cases from 15k a day down to 5k a day. They opened up and two weeks later they are again at 15k cases a day. Now they are in their 3rd lockdown. The lockdowns in Poland and Austria also show that they kinda work. But then there are countries which are under lockdown which didn't get the numbers under control. Germany is now in their 3rd week of the lockdown and their new cases aren't going down. And Sweden, which didn't have any lockdowns, seems on a path that doesn't look good.
Seems like the Pfizer vaccine works on the new strain.
https://apnews.com/article/pfizer-study-vaccine-coronavirus-strain-3094dd3cc91b4a20780402476cdcb5ae
Even if Czech Republic, Poland, Austria, etc. are able to get the spread under control with lockdowns, they have to wait until the Spring Equinox (March 21st) to re-open again if they are going to continue with this strategy as coronaviruses are seasonal. That means 70 more days of putting people on the unemployment rolls, 70 more days of business bankruptcies, evictions, mental health problems, suicides, drug overdoses, people going postal, etc.
I hate it when the media points to Brazil, India and the American South as proof that coronaviruses aren't seasonal. Tropical climates like the Amazon Rainforest, Southern India and Miami and to a lesser extent Subtropical climates like Houston, Texas, Southern Brazil (ie. Porto Alegre) and hot desert climates like Phoenix, Arizona have a moderate flu season year-round. While humid continental climates like Toronto have a fierce fall-winter flu season and a weak flu season in the spring-summer.
Or they are able to vaccinate the risk groups before that. It seems like the fatality rate increases sharply once the burden on ICUs reaches a critical point. If you can get that under control, speak protect the elderly from a severe case, then you won't have to worry about it. Israel already vaccinated 60% of the risk group. Hopefully we will see an effect on the fatality rate and hospital load soon.
I'm not opposed to voluntary vaccination of risk groups. The debate on vaccines is way too polarized. You have the people who want mandatory vaccination of the vast majority of the population. And you have anti-vaxxers who just want the vaccine to crash and burn and don't even want 90+ year olds with pre-existing conditions to take it. When it should be their individual choice. Our society is over-run with statists who wish to impose their will on the individual. When I suggested to my dad that Quebec's curfew might violate Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, he suggested that Justin Trudeau should make a constitutional amendment to allow curfews. lmao. There are tons of Canadians like my dad who have zero concept of liberty. And think the government has the authority to micro-manage every aspect of our lives.
Liberty is basically an American and French concept (and modern day France is cucked to shit. Every once in awhile, French people riot. But their government is authoritarian as fuck). It's not a Canadian concept. We're basically subjects of the Queen. Canada is a cucked nation. Maybe Switzerland and some others have liberty enshrined in their constitutions as well.
The absolute vast majority of anti-vaxxers are 30 to 40 year old wine moms. I don't care if they get Covid or if their children get Covid. Only one out a thousand of them will get a severe case. What's important is that those old folks in care homes get the vaccine asap. And I bet those aren't as anti-vaxx as the general population. There is a care home like an hour away from me, in Wakaw, Saskatchewan. Every single member of this home, 44 to be precise, go infected with Covid. 4 of them are already dead and another dozen of them landed in an ICU. If 44 suburban moms, dads and kids got sick with Covid there would be probably just one ICU case under these. This is what we should get under control as soon as possible.
Sweden is doing fine. Their second surge peaked and wasn’t above a normal bad flu season. All without any lockdowns.
Yeah, doing real great so that they just passed a law to make lockdowns legal and so great that Hospitals have to delay necessary surgeries:
https://www.thelocal.se/20210109/hospitals-in-sweden-forced-to-delay-necessary-operations
This happens during every bad flu season. They're also testing hospital workers which we normally would not due for flu. This puts an additional burden on the system due to the requirement to self isolate if a positive test comes back.
Daily cases and deaths peaked in December https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
The new regulations are still based on personal responsibility https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/regulations-and-general-guidelines/
At least do some basic fucking research.
No, it doesn't. You're free to prove me wrong by showing just ounce of evidence that hospitals in Sweden postpone necessary cancer treatments because of the flu.
You linked something from December 14th. The law for lockdowns was passed this a day ago. The only person here who has to do some basic fucking research is you, you absolute retard.
Another paper that just came out concluding stricter measures have no benefits: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484
It was never about containing a virus, it was always about population control and leading us into communism.
If less restrictive interventions are the way, the Sweden would be in a good place right now. But the opposite is the case.
where did you read about sweden is not doing fine, a blog? Have you personally been to Sweden and seen the reality? what about Belarus?
Did you see the recent numbers?
They just passed a law to make lockdowns legal:
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-swedens-new-covid-lockdown-law-takes-effect/a-56185101
If they would do great, they wouldn't need lockdowns.
There is no correlation between strict lockdown measures and case numbers: https://archive.is/ZfBpW. Whatever anyone does, it won't matter, the "pandemic" won't go away until the governments of world stops this insanity over a flu, and obviously they will not. I personally think its too late, I suggest to leave those behind who still don't get it and save yourselves.
Everyone can pick a blog article and find that masks/lockdowns don't work or work.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm
So what is the truth?
its not a blog dude, it a study with fact based evidence ?
It is a blog with pictures. Nothing more.
So they don't know. They suspect maybe it works.
It wasn't peer reviewed yet, but we will know sooner than later. Israel is on it's way to vaccine the majority by April. Then we will see how effective it is. They already have the new UK strain in their country.