This borrows heavily from my last article, 215 Dead bodies found. Here's the talking points, the main things to be aware of. I've tried to give credit to commenters where credit is due, pm me if I missed you, and I'll edit.
- No evidence of malnutrition can be found, no evidence of mistreatment can be found. Barely evidence of bodies can be found.
As u/KirbyMorph points out, "There is no proof of any bodies found. A random person they refuse to name used ground penetrating radar over course of several years to allegedly find these bodies. They refuse to provide any proof of these bodies or GPR. They didnt dig them up and identify them. They cant determine race or age from GPR. They can barely identify a skeleton using GPR (look up any images they produce if you want to verify). They can't determine how they died. These are all undocumented deaths."
The "ground penetrating radar" thing from the kamloops case was extremely suspect.
This is going to become the hot new meme, Indians using increasingly esoteric means to find fake dead kids in the ground. You will be a pariah for even asking questions about it.
We have unmarked graves where I am with thousands of bodies. It's a cholera pit. They just buried everyone in one big hole as quickly as possible.
Institutional graveyards existed on the grounds of such places, I'm sure the same can be said of boarding schools/schools for orphans and the like in Great Britain and France, etc, etc.
These sites were also known locally since they operated for almost a century, and would have been marked with wooden crosses. They keep calling them mass graves; well if it's a mass grave how do you count the graves using GPR? It's because the disturbances are separated by undisturbed soil. i.e. they are individual burials taking place at different times. These times include many pandemics where children were dying all over. People were dying all over, in fact, that still happens - people still die. And if it happens at say, a prison, where no family will claim the body, the body goes into a grave which is situated on some corner of the prison grounds.
- The news sells three things - hate, guilt, and fear. This capitalizes on two of them - namely, guilt and hate. People want to hate Christians, and the church. Selling hate is easy, people want to hate. But the guilt? People feel that pointing out "injustice" will assuage their own guilt and flagging self esteem. An older atheist, Friedrich Nietzsche pointed this out in "On the Genealogy of Morality"
*They monopolize virtue, these weak, hopelessly sick people, there is no doubt of it: ‘we alone are the good and just,’ they say, ‘we alone are homines bonae voluntatis.’
They walk among us as embodied reproaches, as warnings to us – as if health, well-constitutedness, strength, pride and sense of power were in themselves necessarily vicious things for which one must pay some day, and pay bitterly: how ready they themselves are at bottom to make one pay; how they crave to be hangmen."*
A Christian, CS Lewis, pointed this out in Mere Christianity - how to live in a world of pure hatred. He writes:
"Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one's first feeling, 'Thank God, even they aren't quite so bad as that,' or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything -- God and our friends and ourselves included -- as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred,"
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Trudeau’s dad was in power at the time. He supported this. He's just as evil and corrupt as his son.
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Imagine being in school in 1780. Childhood mortality is is 1/10 under good conditions.
You live in a shit hole native land that later Trudeau Sr will keep you banished to, limited supplies. Local childhood mortality without white people was 1/5.
You build a school.
Indians start dropping off kids at school and not picking them up, it's suddenly full of orphans.
Despite conditions school has 1/8 childhood mortality.
Educate an entire generation of children, due to medical technology a lot still die.
Bury the kids respectfully with wooden crosses as you are teachers not stone masons.
100s of years pass.
Some people dig up the graves.
oh heck, white people are terrible.
As u/risingtide points out - Tsimshian (northwest coast of BC) checking in, another thing that gets glossed over with this bullshit is that for a lot of natives the residential schools were a better option than living with your parents or other relatives that raped you on the regular, or prostituted you for drugs and alcohol. What my wife, her sisters and brothers, her mother, etc etc went through is horrific. What stopped it? White men removing them from the “homes”. Her one brother ended up molesting and raping some of our family and then recently blew his head off. The disease that came over with the early explorers, from livestock and men, wiped almost all of us out. Shit was already pretty rough, many of us kept slaves depending on status, we wiped out entire people’s and so on. What stopped that? White men. Middle class white chicks and broken men are the worst, the bullshit being spewed right now is unbearable.
Times weren't good. Even for the indigenous, they were regularly resorting to cannibalism at the time. - including forcing french settler to eat their own cooked children not long before. Read "A Narrative of the Adventures and Sufferings of John R. Jewitt"
As u/canadian2021 points out "I met a 90 year old couple a few weeks ago who still have a living memory of the residential schools. They said that parents of the children could not wait to send their kids off to school each year because it meant they didn't have to take care of them. It was basically a government sponsored free boarding school to them. Most of the time it was not RCMP officers showing up and taking all the kids away by force like the media is portraying it.
Sometimes the kids would show up to the schools with clothing that hadn't been changed in months. The nuns would have to peal them off, bath the children, and give them new cloths."
This is nothing new - In early CCP Western Taiwan, lots of people would drop off starving, horribly ill and clearly dying children at catholic/Christian churches/monasteries. It hardly needs pointing out that most of these children died. The CCP then turned the population against the churches with claims of child abduction, murder and spreading disease to children in an effort to destroy them or force them out of the country so they couldn't compete with them culturally. Many of the same people who dropped their kids off, on death's door, were among the ones were out for blood.
- They are unmarked but not undocumented. They are children who died from disease over the course of a century, given Christian burials. Not a single grave.
People forget how common it was to die of disease prior to the mid 20th century.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041751/canada-all-time-child-mortality-rate/
- Look up the origins of the word "Racism". The residential schools were started by anti-racists who believed it was wrong to just leave the Indians to their own devices.
It's all about making whites feel guilty to eliminate us from the societies we created. That's the bottom line.
Yeah, but also a reason to hate. In general. Hate sells, people love to be told who to hate.
But try an experiment: Don't send your kids to school. See what happens, white, black or indigenous.
Anyway, 25% of kids dying before 1900 put things into perspective for me. So let's say 250 dead kids over what? Let's say 50 years to be conservative. 5 kids a year? Not bad at all. The nuns really took good care of them. Anybody got death rates for kids living on reserves?
There is no evidence that RS students had a death rate greater than other aboriginal children of the time. None. If there were, wokist professors would be proclaiming it endlessly.
Look up Richard Pratt
Basically, he said that it's racist to leave them in their cesspools of native reserves, that we should try to help them. He cited facts like how high the child mortality rate was (1/5 on a good day), and how low the literacy rate was. This should be an unimaginably horrible standard of living, yet the natives had lived that way, and worse if you include slavery and cannibalism, for years. Generations.
He partially got his way. The natives were educated, an education that persists today. However, they are still confined to their reserves where alcoholism and crime run rampant.
Thank you! I made a previous one that was far more brief, and they thanked me on that one. I was happy I could provide some value, so I summarized another one here. :-)
So this is like Weapons of Mass Destruction, Syria "gas" & the Syrian Refugees that the refugees themselves drowned. More fake things.
Then maybe these documents should be published.
If the Catholic, Anglican or whatever church wants to get out of that, they could do that by publishing it.
Not the hill I wanna die on.
You guys need to learn how to pick your battles better. Like, show me your cost/benefit analysis on this one.
Even if you "win" this argument you get to look like the asshole. That's what I mean by "pick your battles". This one isn't worth it. Don't worry, you're not committing ideological treason if you agree that 215 dead kids buried out behind the school is some bad shit. Only an unhinged ideological zealot would think like that.
And what compels you folks to think you have to take the contrary position here? Is it the aboriginal aspect? Would you be taking the contrary position if those had been white kids buried behind a reform school?
If the media is lying to us, I want to know. I don't care if anything is gained by taking my position or not. I just want objective truth.
I never said "kidnapped and murdered", I said "kidnapped by the state and died in captivity" which is literally true.
According to sources, many couldn't wait to send their kids to the schools. No force necessary.
Definitely. 'White kids would have been rescued. Canada must pay for this discrimination'
Another meaningful and constructive contribution.
Proving my point again
You dont care whats true you care how people percieve you
Which is why your party is basically a giant pile of bullshit. And you are spinning your wheels doing fuck all but moving goalposts and blabbering nonsense
It was noted you never replied to the call yo tell us why cpc is better than the lpc
Youre all talk and no substance
Makes me wanna call you a white nagger, cuz thats really what it comes down to
I mentioned that in my previous article,
"It's amazing to me that for the last couple days Canadians have been mourning the state sponsored massacre of 215 children, yet then turn around and still say "We don't need a right to free speech or to bear arms. The government knows what's best for you and your children. The Police are your friends. Trust the state. Vote for more state power." It wasn't some priests showing up to reserves and stripping children away from their parents. It was the RCMP. Ordered to do so by the Federal government. That's what the state enforcers do, they follow the orders of the state. They're not magical ethical arbiters trained in philosophy of right and wrong, they're thugs who do whatever is told to them by the ones who pay their salary."
Conversely, some adoptive parents are only in it for the money and abuse as well. I personally have heard horror stories of these kids in indigenous settings.
We did, though. In the early 2000's, late 90's, we had 10k reparations paid out to every native once they turned 18. A bunch of my friends got it. They bought dumb stuff like ridiculous outfits and down payments for cars they couldn't afford. But the reparations were paid.
I actually wouldn't have bothered, but I had someone thank me when I posted the previous one, so I figured if people appreciate it I'm happy to! It takes a little while to consolidate all the information, but there's value there!
Your comment was on the old article, which I had to delete because I’m trash at writing up headlines when I’m exhausted and I couldn’t change it.
It was funny, and you should repost it.
Well, I upvoted it.
That was the first point in my previous article