I’m not married to my opinions I have an open mind and have been intently researching this for 1.5 years now. My impressions have shifted dramatically over that time.
It’s a convenient refrain to dismiss out of hand the opinion of another as a “conspiracy theorist”. The ironic thing is that it weakens your stance. We all know conspiracies do exist. However I’m not suggesting I believe there is a ploy by millions of people as you mentioned to eradicate the population, I think the chances of that are quite low. There is however abundant data that calls virtually every aspect of official covid narrative into question, and leaves me with plenty of concern.
I’d be happy to expand into great detail with sources if you want to really dig in.
“From the article: "Francis Christian, a clinical professor of surgery"
No training / background / expertise in infectious diseases, virology, or public health. Hardly an expert. It's like getting your football strategy from a tennis pro.”
This situation with Dr Christian doesn’t match your analogy. His is at the apex of medical expertise, fired due to advocating for informed consent. You don’t need to be a virologist or epidemiologist to understand fundamental medical ethics. Informed Consent isn’t optional. He is legally represented by the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, and it will be interesting to see the outcome of the various proceedings that are now to ensue. I searched for your article to no avail, but here’s the other side: https://www.jccf.ca/surgeon-fired-by-college-of-medicine-for-voicing-safety-concerns-about-covid-shots-for-children/
“The self-styled inventor. Funny that stories about the development of mRNA technology .don't say anything about him. Except, of course, the ones he tells. I know, I know - you think that's a real conspiracy.”
This is totally false information and anything but funny. Dr. Robert Malone discovered RNA transfection and invented mRNA vaccines, he wrote the patent disclosure, this is undeniable. He no longer appears in Wikipedia since recommending against vaccinating young people and advocating for informed consent. LinkedIn deleted him then reinstated him. Big tech censorship.
You state that Covid jumped from animals to humans as fact. Research on this should have left any reasonable person with profound doubt of that narrative over a year ago. However until Dr Fauci admitted it was likely a month ago Governments/Google/YouTube/Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/Wikipedia all coordinated to cancel anyone who even suggested the possibility that it came from the level 4 lab now confirmed to have been conducting gain of function research, at the origin of the outbreak.
The government hasn’t followed the science on masks, therapeutics or lockdowns. They dialed up up PCR cycles, don’t mention the roles vitamin D or obesity play. Their coordinated campaign of silencing dissenting voices is profoundly unscientific, and undemocratic. They still haven’t even provided evidence showing the costs of their various measures against the benefits of them. This is a requirement to suspend our rights under the constitution. They have implemented a campaign of coercion to force the vaccine upon people, while it is in ongoing clinical trial.
Covid isn’t dangerous to most people, certainly not children. The average age of mortality is over 80, in line with life expectancy. How many 80 year olds lives does it take to equal one 12 year olds life. You’re not going to like my opinion, I think the child is worth more than all of them.
It’s a convenient refrain to dismiss out of hand the opinion of another as a “conspiracy theorist”.
For the record: the conspiracy theorist I was referring to is John Solomon, the man whose advertising agency published the article referenced in the original post. You can read about him online and make up your own mind:
The informed consent argument is interesting in an academic way. It's like standing outside a burning building discussing the merits of the various fire hoses instead of hooking them up. No doubt there will be some movement on the question at some point in the future but meanwhile there's a global pandemic going on.
And still on informed consent: medical credentials don't lend particular weight to your opinion on informed consent. It's more a question of philosophy.
Dr. Malone authored an important paper over 30 years ago. Last month "Malone clarified that he was not discouraging the use of the vaccine but was providing people with as much fair information as he could about their risks." (https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html)
Concerning those risks: 3.4 billion vaccine shots have been administered. Tens of millions of fatalities would have to be reported before the danger from the vaccine would be remotely comparable to the danger from the virus.
You state that Covid jumped from animals to humans as fact. Research on this should have left any reasonable person with profound doubt of that narrative over a year ago
I meant to mention this earlier...
"The majority of all human infectious diseases and pandemics have originated through the cross-species transmission of microorganisms from animals to humans"
Ah so you’re saying there lab leak theory is wrong? Or most likely wrong? If so I recommend more research, but you’d have to steer clear of mainstream articles from before last month as tech censors from your side ensured contrary information was removed.
They’re not “my” Justice Centre for Constitutional freedoms, they’re just a group fighting to defend civil liberties that I cited.
I’lll note you didn’t attempt to counter any of my other points, so I’ll take that you don’t contest them.
Ah so you’re saying there lab leak theory is wrong?
For someone who recommends research that's a strange response to a peer-reviewed journal article by a bunch of specialists in the field.
Those experts say "The majority of all human infectious diseases and pandemics have originated through the cross-species transmission of microorganisms from animals to humans"
You, who have produced no evidence of expertise in the field, nor any sources, say "Research on this should have left any reasonable person with profound doubt of that narrative".
What research? Why would anyone believe you?
I’lll note you didn’t attempt to counter any of my other points, so I’ll take that you don’t contest them.
Have you backed any of your opinions up? "That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
I’m not married to my opinions I have an open mind and have been intently researching this for 1.5 years now. My impressions have shifted dramatically over that time.
It’s a convenient refrain to dismiss out of hand the opinion of another as a “conspiracy theorist”. The ironic thing is that it weakens your stance. We all know conspiracies do exist. However I’m not suggesting I believe there is a ploy by millions of people as you mentioned to eradicate the population, I think the chances of that are quite low. There is however abundant data that calls virtually every aspect of official covid narrative into question, and leaves me with plenty of concern.
I’d be happy to expand into great detail with sources if you want to really dig in.
“From the article: "Francis Christian, a clinical professor of surgery" No training / background / expertise in infectious diseases, virology, or public health. Hardly an expert. It's like getting your football strategy from a tennis pro.”
This situation with Dr Christian doesn’t match your analogy. His is at the apex of medical expertise, fired due to advocating for informed consent. You don’t need to be a virologist or epidemiologist to understand fundamental medical ethics. Informed Consent isn’t optional. He is legally represented by the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, and it will be interesting to see the outcome of the various proceedings that are now to ensue. I searched for your article to no avail, but here’s the other side: https://www.jccf.ca/surgeon-fired-by-college-of-medicine-for-voicing-safety-concerns-about-covid-shots-for-children/
“The self-styled inventor. Funny that stories about the development of mRNA technology .don't say anything about him. Except, of course, the ones he tells. I know, I know - you think that's a real conspiracy.”
This is totally false information and anything but funny. Dr. Robert Malone discovered RNA transfection and invented mRNA vaccines, he wrote the patent disclosure, this is undeniable. He no longer appears in Wikipedia since recommending against vaccinating young people and advocating for informed consent. LinkedIn deleted him then reinstated him. Big tech censorship.
You state that Covid jumped from animals to humans as fact. Research on this should have left any reasonable person with profound doubt of that narrative over a year ago. However until Dr Fauci admitted it was likely a month ago Governments/Google/YouTube/Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/Wikipedia all coordinated to cancel anyone who even suggested the possibility that it came from the level 4 lab now confirmed to have been conducting gain of function research, at the origin of the outbreak.
The government hasn’t followed the science on masks, therapeutics or lockdowns. They dialed up up PCR cycles, don’t mention the roles vitamin D or obesity play. Their coordinated campaign of silencing dissenting voices is profoundly unscientific, and undemocratic. They still haven’t even provided evidence showing the costs of their various measures against the benefits of them. This is a requirement to suspend our rights under the constitution. They have implemented a campaign of coercion to force the vaccine upon people, while it is in ongoing clinical trial.
Covid isn’t dangerous to most people, certainly not children. The average age of mortality is over 80, in line with life expectancy. How many 80 year olds lives does it take to equal one 12 year olds life. You’re not going to like my opinion, I think the child is worth more than all of them.
For the record: the conspiracy theorist I was referring to is John Solomon, the man whose advertising agency published the article referenced in the original post. You can read about him online and make up your own mind:
https://archives.cjr.org/feature/something_fishy.php
http://archives.cjr.org/politics/john_solomon_gives_us_less_tha.php
The informed consent argument is interesting in an academic way. It's like standing outside a burning building discussing the merits of the various fire hoses instead of hooking them up. No doubt there will be some movement on the question at some point in the future but meanwhile there's a global pandemic going on.
And still on informed consent: medical credentials don't lend particular weight to your opinion on informed consent. It's more a question of philosophy.
Dr. Malone authored an important paper over 30 years ago. Last month "Malone clarified that he was not discouraging the use of the vaccine but was providing people with as much fair information as he could about their risks." (https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html)
Concerning those risks: 3.4 billion vaccine shots have been administered. Tens of millions of fatalities would have to be reported before the danger from the vaccine would be remotely comparable to the danger from the virus.
That's not happening.
I meant to mention this earlier...
"The majority of all human infectious diseases and pandemics have originated through the cross-species transmission of microorganisms from animals to humans"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874076/
For a pandemic to result from a lab-generated virus would be a first.
And I notice your Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms is in the news these days. Mr. Carpay got a little carried away, it seems.
If you are open to hearing alternate ideas from the government and tech oligarch narrative I recommend “The Muccullough Report” podcast.
If the July 5 podcast doesn’t cause you to question things you’re likely incapable of having an open mind.
Ah so you’re saying there lab leak theory is wrong? Or most likely wrong? If so I recommend more research, but you’d have to steer clear of mainstream articles from before last month as tech censors from your side ensured contrary information was removed.
They’re not “my” Justice Centre for Constitutional freedoms, they’re just a group fighting to defend civil liberties that I cited.
I’lll note you didn’t attempt to counter any of my other points, so I’ll take that you don’t contest them.
For someone who recommends research that's a strange response to a peer-reviewed journal article by a bunch of specialists in the field.
Those experts say "The majority of all human infectious diseases and pandemics have originated through the cross-species transmission of microorganisms from animals to humans"
You, who have produced no evidence of expertise in the field, nor any sources, say "Research on this should have left any reasonable person with profound doubt of that narrative".
What research? Why would anyone believe you?
Have you backed any of your opinions up? "That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
I sent you a podcast containing extensive details from experts that I strongly suspect you are incapable of listening to.