If that's the case then the blame is owned by the CPC executive for pushing out a big chunk of they're base....but I was originally told "ITS UNDER 2% AND THEY'RE ALL ULTRA RACIST!"
Anyone mad at PPC voters needs to give their fucking head a shake. The conservatives in Canada are a steaming pile of trash, just like the liberals. In Canada, it's PPC vs. the Uniparty.
The biggest fucking issue right now is vaccine passports. You get the same results from conservatives as you do with liberals. Fuck them all.
PPC is the only party here for us. Figure it the fuck out.
PPC has taught the CPC that they're a real threat now, and need to be taken seriously. If all goes well, the CPC will actually try to court their vote and straighten up. If all goes poorly, the PPC will keep growing at this 2% per year rate until the CPC can no longer do anything about it (and Trudeau's 7th or 8th minority government calls election yet again).
He needs at least a seat to do that. I don't think that's possible, but it might in the future. That strategy worked with the Reform party only because the Reform party was very powerful and had a lot of seats, stymieing the PC's of the day.
Yes and him winning a seat in Beuce, against a dairy farmer, in the middle of dairy mafia rip off territory, is madness at worst, uphill battle at best. If he ran in a soft Calgary riding (say Skyview) on a pro oil and gas campaign, can’t see how Calgarians wouldn’t love that. They would possibly forgive him for being a frenchy.
According to Canada 338, even PPC winning 9.9% of the vote they don’t even get a seat, no matter how you play with the sliders. I guess I don’t get how it works.
The only silver lining one could get out of this is that it gets the Tory top brass a slap in the face and get back to sensible policies. However I fear it will take Canada becoming an unbearable shit show before smooth brained Naiive left of centre’s realise we need a Harper style admin to fix all the disasters. I’m no expert though. Just who has been an overall good tory PM through history ?
Our only chance is for Trudeau to fuck things up so bad that people finally decide to revolt. When we get the covid bill, people will wake up. We also need a well spoken leader that looks good on camera. O'Toole ain't it.
PS. join the free shit army if you want to buy elections and properly pander to Toronto and Montreal. National finances are already completely fucked so at least there's no harm done.
The ppc didn't stop the cons from winning otool stopped him self from win by not representing conservative values ... why is noone question the the remarkably low voter turn out went Trudeau had more protesters then supporters ..removing votes maybe the only way to cheat In our system.. Trudeau got half the votes from last time .. and why do mail I ballots always take more time to count .. fuck Trudeau
Question: Did the CPC gain more votes than they lost by moving to the left? If not, maybe the blame lies more with the CPC executive than it does with the individuals voting for representation. God forbid people vote for a party that has a platform that aligns with their beliefs. Having said that if I didn't live in a left wing strong hold I would have voted CPC if they had a fighting chance. They did not.
The conservatives did it to themselves when they screwed Max out of the leadership in 2017. Then they hired the Daisy Group to smear him. If they lost because of PPC, they deserved it. Maybe they will think twice about employing dirty Liberal tactics in the future.
I like Bernier and the PPC but voted CPC because PPC is a wasted vote.
People forget that Canada is a country full of liberal cucks and a party with a platform like the PPC will unfortunately never go anywhere. As white people will become a minority in Canada it will only get worse.
What are they cheering? The liberals didn't win anything and Trudeau is a cancer making it very difficult for any of the parties to seem friendly with him.
The PPC may have influenced the outcome of a couple of ridings, but the real vote-splitting in our elections is by the NDP and Greens, which are the parties that maybe 80% of people on r/canada support.
Actually, O'Toole handed it to the Liberals. I didn't vote. I would have voted CPC, and I wanted only two things from O'Toole. Repeal Trudeau's gun ban and no fasccine passports. He cucked on both, so he deserves whatever he got. And no, I didn't cost CPC any seats because my riding is liberal safe anyway.
It's more than 14 seats (as of now). Either handed to the Liberals or the NDP. If you assume that every vote of the PPC would have gone to the Conservatives, then the Conservatives would have 25 seats more.
BC:
Cloverdale-Langley City
Nanaimo-Ladysmith
North Island-Powell River
Skeena-Bulkley Valley
South Okanagan-West Kootenay
West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country
Territories:
Yukon (split vote by a former CPC candidate who ran as Independent)
I can make the assumption, because I also make the assumption that in such case O'Toole would have a spine. Also it only took me like three minutes to make that list.
They win because there's a lot of brainwashed and ignorant people, which is why you need to be sly and make them think that you're safe and not some deranged right winger.
I think Canada THINKS its 80% leftist but when people can't fill up their cars or afford a new iphone, they are going to have some really interesting thoughts about politics.
Yeah we saw how they think when that happens, vote NDP because Singh can give us MORE cerb, MORE free money, MORE free things.
you say "you cpc supporters" as if you never voted cpc in your life or as if the CPC was some sort of cult. nah im not a CPC supporter im really disappointed in the tool and the parties cuckery but if conservatives split the vote the country is fucked.
In reality, O'Toole turning into Trudeau with different socks in the last literal 2 days is what did it.
exactly this had nothing to do with PPC had everything to do with Toole being an actual cuck tool.
It had everything to do with splitting the vote.
If that's the case then the blame is owned by the CPC executive for pushing out a big chunk of they're base....but I was originally told "ITS UNDER 2% AND THEY'RE ALL ULTRA RACIST!"
Ridiculous take.
Yes, one day a hundred years from now, the PPC will be as big as the Greens.
You wrongly assume
#1 that every PPC voter votes Conservative #2 that they would have voted if the PPC didn't exist #3 that conservatives deserve votes
With no alternative option, those voters would've gone to conservatives instead of voting for Bernier's vanity project.
Stop whining maybe run an actual conservative next time
Maybe you need to pull your head out of your ass and stop helping our enemies.
That's a bunch of malarkey
vaccine passports, gun seizures, and forced vaccinations.
Am I Trudeau, or O'Toole?
Anyone mad at PPC voters needs to give their fucking head a shake. The conservatives in Canada are a steaming pile of trash, just like the liberals. In Canada, it's PPC vs. the Uniparty.
The biggest fucking issue right now is vaccine passports. You get the same results from conservatives as you do with liberals. Fuck them all.
PPC is the only party here for us. Figure it the fuck out.
PPC has taught the CPC that they're a real threat now, and need to be taken seriously. If all goes well, the CPC will actually try to court their vote and straighten up. If all goes poorly, the PPC will keep growing at this 2% per year rate until the CPC can no longer do anything about it (and Trudeau's 7th or 8th minority government calls election yet again).
Fucking AMEN
Like I said, can't fix stupid.
thE eXaxt saMe as TurdEAU...ok numbskull.
Liberal and conservative are the same monoparty.
I’m sorry, was there a difference between the liberals and the conservatives?
Yes.
Could a strategy for Bernier now be to rejoin the Tories with his crew and influence and voter block to try and change the Tories from the inside?
I’m sure he would get lots of support if there was a merger. Wasn’t there a right of centre party merger back in the 80s?
Just suggestions. The UPC and wild rose had to put their differences aside to boot out the dippers. It’s not ideal but…
He needs at least a seat to do that. I don't think that's possible, but it might in the future. That strategy worked with the Reform party only because the Reform party was very powerful and had a lot of seats, stymieing the PC's of the day.
Yes and him winning a seat in Beuce, against a dairy farmer, in the middle of dairy mafia rip off territory, is madness at worst, uphill battle at best. If he ran in a soft Calgary riding (say Skyview) on a pro oil and gas campaign, can’t see how Calgarians wouldn’t love that. They would possibly forgive him for being a frenchy.
According to Canada 338, even PPC winning 9.9% of the vote they don’t even get a seat, no matter how you play with the sliders. I guess I don’t get how it works.
The only silver lining one could get out of this is that it gets the Tory top brass a slap in the face and get back to sensible policies. However I fear it will take Canada becoming an unbearable shit show before smooth brained Naiive left of centre’s realise we need a Harper style admin to fix all the disasters. I’m no expert though. Just who has been an overall good tory PM through history ?
Our only chance is for Trudeau to fuck things up so bad that people finally decide to revolt. When we get the covid bill, people will wake up. We also need a well spoken leader that looks good on camera. O'Toole ain't it.
I am not a conservative.
I DO NOT vote FOR gun control and carbon taxes.
PS. join the free shit army if you want to buy elections and properly pander to Toronto and Montreal. National finances are already completely fucked so at least there's no harm done.
Better luck next time.
Hold on to any guns you have, friend. The next few years are gonna be rocky.
I am more than happy to have voted for the platform I wanted to see. Sucks the majority of Canada is retarded I suppose.
Good that you stuck to your principles. You can tell me more when we're marching to the gulags.
lol imagine thinking you can vote away the gulags at this stage
O'Toole has nobody to blame but himself. When he looks in the mirror I hope Trudope's smug face smiles back at him for the rest of his days.
O Toole is a loser anyway.
The ppc didn't stop the cons from winning otool stopped him self from win by not representing conservative values ... why is noone question the the remarkably low voter turn out went Trudeau had more protesters then supporters ..removing votes maybe the only way to cheat In our system.. Trudeau got half the votes from last time .. and why do mail I ballots always take more time to count .. fuck Trudeau
When you're stuck with a choice between getting fucked in the ass by a giant dildo, or a giant rubber dick...It was a toughie.
Question: Did the CPC gain more votes than they lost by moving to the left? If not, maybe the blame lies more with the CPC executive than it does with the individuals voting for representation. God forbid people vote for a party that has a platform that aligns with their beliefs. Having said that if I didn't live in a left wing strong hold I would have voted CPC if they had a fighting chance. They did not.
The conservatives did it to themselves when they screwed Max out of the leadership in 2017. Then they hired the Daisy Group to smear him. If they lost because of PPC, they deserved it. Maybe they will think twice about employing dirty Liberal tactics in the future.
I like Bernier and the PPC but voted CPC because PPC is a wasted vote.
People forget that Canada is a country full of liberal cucks and a party with a platform like the PPC will unfortunately never go anywhere. As white people will become a minority in Canada it will only get worse.
r/Canada are all cheering for the PPC splitting the vote.
What are they cheering? The liberals didn't win anything and Trudeau is a cancer making it very difficult for any of the parties to seem friendly with him.
The PPC may have influenced the outcome of a couple of ridings, but the real vote-splitting in our elections is by the NDP and Greens, which are the parties that maybe 80% of people on r/canada support.
Sad! Some of us saw it coming a mile away.
I've found 14 seats so far that the PPC handed to the Liberals. There's probably more I haven't found yet.
https://i.imgur.com/A8wFgo1.png
Actually, O'Toole handed it to the Liberals. I didn't vote. I would have voted CPC, and I wanted only two things from O'Toole. Repeal Trudeau's gun ban and no fasccine passports. He cucked on both, so he deserves whatever he got. And no, I didn't cost CPC any seats because my riding is liberal safe anyway.
My riding is firmly Liberal and I still voted.
It's more than 14 seats (as of now). Either handed to the Liberals or the NDP. If you assume that every vote of the PPC would have gone to the Conservatives, then the Conservatives would have 25 seats more.
BC:
Territories:
Alberta:
Ontario:
Nova Scotia:
Newfoundland and Labrador:
" If you assume that every vote of the PPC would have gone to the Conservatives, then the Conservatives would have 25 seats more"
You can't make that assumption. It would have saved you a lot of time putting all of that together too.
I can make the assumption, because I also make the assumption that in such case O'Toole would have a spine. Also it only took me like three minutes to make that list.
The conservatives should have done more to earn the votes that went to the PPC.
I would be more concerned about the CPC failure in the Maritimes again.
Damn. That's quite a bit. I'm sure more will come out in the next few days. Thanks for your work.
So let's cut off our nose to spite our face?
They win because there's a lot of brainwashed and ignorant people, which is why you need to be sly and make them think that you're safe and not some deranged right winger.
Ok PPCer.
LMAO so much fun reading your sperg posts.
So wow. Kek!
It's called strategy, lad. Welcome to the world of politics.
They were trying to win, Canada is 80% leftist.
Max can say whatever the fuck he wants because he knows he will never be PM.
Max and his retard followers are to blame here, if we united Trudeau would be out.
Yeah we saw how they think when that happens, vote NDP because Singh can give us MORE cerb, MORE free money, MORE free things.
Enjoy. Sucking. Trudy's. Dick.
English muthafucka, do you speak it?
you say "you cpc supporters" as if you never voted cpc in your life or as if the CPC was some sort of cult. nah im not a CPC supporter im really disappointed in the tool and the parties cuckery but if conservatives split the vote the country is fucked.