There's something not right about the number of "deaths". Alberta has a similar population to Norway, similar case counts, and similar vaccination rate. Norway is opening up and has almost no deaths, Alberta has 20+ deaths per day and supposedly is in crisis. The only difference I can think of is big city demographics in Alberta and hospital unions/workers being anti-conservative, the extent that they're willing to go on strike during a pandemic. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/strike-inevitable-for-alberta-nurses-likely-two-months-away-1.5565332
I want to know why it's so hard to find how many taxxed Canadians have died after receiving it.
It's not.
Up to OCt 1st 56,151,862 doses of vaccine had been administered.
"Up to and including October 1, 2021, a total of 195 reports with an outcome of death were reported following vaccination. Although these deaths occurred after being vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, they are not necessarily related to the vaccine."
Deaths that could be attributed to being vaccinated can easily be "covered up". In order to determine how many people died as a direct result impartial autopsies would have to be performed on everyone who dies within a certain time period after receiving a dose. What are the chances of that happening?
Would imagine a post mortem looking for thrombii in the brain and the frequency of it amongst the dead that happened to have been single or X2 jabby would be an Interesting data set.
There's obviously no point in trying to have a rational discussion with you. I suspect if it happened to someone you know you'd still deny it could be possible.
StatsCan has not disclosed official deaths and whether the vaccine was administered.
It's below. You have to be able to read for a while though. Hint: 0.008% of vaccine recipients had to get medical attention afterwards. In most cases for issues that didn't seem to have any connection to the vaccine.
in Canada hospitals don't test vaccinated people for covid in hospital if they are beyond a sniffle.
You'll have to back that up. Canada has 13 different healthcare systems. There is no country-wide blanket protocol for dealing with covid in healthcare systems, like there is in Federally controlled and/or regulated offices.
Sorry about your two acquaintances - and I really mean that - but there have been over 56 million jabs and two unsupported anecdotal stories don't carry much weight.
Health Canada makes suggestions but healthcare is a provincial/territorial responsibility. Can you be more specific?
2million Canadians that didn't go back for the second dose
How many of them are between doses?
the medical system knew about their possible injuries
They are acknowledged. You shouldn't exaggerate the very tiny potential for injury compared to the virus.
their right to informed consent
To the best of my knowledge most people have the right to refuse the vaccination. They may have to work from home in a new job, but it's still their choice.
get their justice in court
We'll see.
UN agents populating our health department
They're just health care professionals listening to their colleagues in the discipline.
Hey guess what. You are not considered “fully vaxxed” until two weeks after your second jab.
This is how they are gaming the statistics. I have spoken with nurses that have said the hospitals were never overwhelmed until people started getting the jab.
The doctors are not reporting vaccine injuries and sending people home without explanation of their symptoms. Your statement does fit the narrative of the mainstream but it’s not true.
Of course not. From day 1 of the vaccines' arrival no one has ever claimed more than 95% effectiveness at the best, and that is for reducing the harm cause by the virus, not blocking it completely.
Some of the ones approved elsewhere - I mean not in Canada - are down in the 50 - 60% range, I seem to recall.
You are missing the point. The hospital will not treat you as vaxxed. They won’t treat you as a vaxx injury because of this bullshit logic. The vaxx has a 1 percent efficacy rate of keeping people from getting Covid. You need to do some research bud
A ‘full effectiveness’ that - a few short months ago, Pfizer/Moderna et al were all crowing about their ‘safe and effective’ 95%? And that only 1 shot would be needed, no masks and everyone goes back to ‘normal’.
That turned into:
“Sorry it’s going to be 2 shots to be effective now”. Still wear the holy cult rag.
Then “the jab works but you can still catch the Rona and give the Rona to others”. Still wear the rag of obedience.
As above but Now “it doesn’t really prevent catching or giving the Rona but it reduces the severity of the symptoms”. Oh and still anti social distance and Don the face fabric of shame.
4.Then a few weeks ago. Mainline press releases admitting from big pharma that the jabs were only around 30-40% effective. Still keep away from others like a leper and hide your visage with the sacrament of sin.
Then “sorry we need boosters for everyone”.
Now Israel is talking about a 4h shot.
Now recent public mainline news about big pharma coming up with a daily pill for the Rona. Because, I suppose the earlier attempts at a prophylactic infusion to prevent infection worked so well😏
VAERS having more entries in it for jab side effects and deaths for the last year or so, then the prior decades combined. Sure, ‘anyone’ can put an entry in VAERS But before it got traction in the public eye, it’s likely Joe Public had no clue about the VAERS system and probable that the public have better things to do than sit around and bash false data into VAERS. If the authorities considered the data to be so faulty, the site would have been taken down.
Flu has “disappeared” according to the big talking heads of gov. Ahuh. It’s a miracle! It must be the masks (that have holes 5000x bigger than the pathogen) and distancing! Ahuh.
All for a pathogen- sars-cov-2, practically identical to sars-cov-1, that has an IFR (infection fatality rate) of 0.03% (ONS figures, office of national statistics, HM UK gov, one can find this data within mins on a lookup, not secret data)
US data? For anyone looking? CDC worst case survival rate for people up to around 50, something like 99.97%. Average age of death in UK of the Rona, 80-85, matching the average natural death rate.
It's almost as though this is a brand new - to humans - virus, and things are unfolding as it spreads and mutates, and as we learn more about it ans how to fight it.
Brand new, yes.
If this is referring to the possibility that this Rona bug was engineered in Wuhan.
Otherwise brand new. Yes- perhaps on a geological time scale- otherwise practically identical to sars-cov-1, similar to MERS, Avian Flu, flu a, flu b, and the common cold.
All branches of coronavirii. These things have been with us since the Dawn of mankind.
How do we fight it? Like any other respiratory virus.
Let it run its course naturally. It will soon weaken and become a minor nuisance like many other respiratory virus. Stop giving out the gene therapy.
Get Grandad out of the care home regularly and keep his mind and body active. Take a good amount of vitamin D, zinc, C, fresh clean air, age suitable excercise, eat your fruit n dark veg, don’t be afraid of lots of yummy saturated animal fat and steaks, eggs.
Hug people, shake hands, throw big dinner parties, stop using that ethanol hand sanitiser crap, share common harmless germs, granny was right, there is such a thing as too clean.
Well maybe the government could have spent that $400+ Billion on beefing up the nations healthcare system instead of handing out $2000 a month CERB cheques to every person who was too lazy to work or got screwed over by the very restrictions that the government, not the virus put into place.
If a couple hundred people spread across a province is enough to sink the system that should have been a massive wake up call. Christ, we've known the system was spread thin for a very long time now and we've done very, very little to address it let alone fix it.
But rather than fix it here we are firing healthcare workers that don't want to be bossed around with vaccine mandates. By the way, where are all the sick and dying nurses, doctors, care-aids? I mean for the past two years they have been on the front lines dealing with Covid patients non stop everyday.....why haven't we been seeing them drop like flies? I haven't seen or heard jackshit about that.
Ok. A whopping 43 deaths nationwide in two years from a population of 38 million.
So yeah, like I said, you don't really hear about them getting sick and dying even though they are directly exposed to it frequently, daily even. Almost as if the whole thing is overblown bullshit meant to peddle vaccines and implement the passport system....neither of which are/will work but will make a select few even richer.
43 deaths nationwide in two years from a population of 38 million.
43 out of how many? There are not 38 million healthcare workers in Canada, so that statement is a non-starter. Tough to have a meaningful conversation with responses like that.
On the other hand healthcare workers in Canada do get the virus. 90,000 of them as of June 15 this year. The reason you don't hear about them is because you don't ask about it.
The reason we don't hear about them is because only 43 of them died despite being exposed to the virus far more than the average person. That doesn't really make the news or help spread the fear does it?
I wonder what the average age of the 43 who died were and if they had any comorbidities? If I had to guess they'd probably be 60 or older based off the Health Canada stats that show hardly anyone under 60 has died from Covid over two damn years.
"Norway acted quickly to stem the spread of the virus domestically, and limit infection from abroad while increasing health service capacity. The policy emphasis quickly shifted to concerns about economic impacts, the need to buttress both employers and employees and support specific industries such as domestic air travel. Most recently, concerns about the social cost of the implementation of the lock down procedures and the need to mitigate the consequences has shaped policies relating to the easing of lock down procedures. This attention to the social aspects, and the ability to fund these, we believe, is a key differentiator of the Nor- wegian response. As the Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg, reflected, “The government has chosen to prioritise children, then working life, and finally other activities.”
https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S2211883720300769?token=22B6DBF18AA097FE959F670D264736084FCFF88E42C003947116AFD045D851343CC055EDCF538D2582E2ABC326020053&originRegion=us-east-1&originCreation=20211008141957
Are you pretending to be retarded? There is lots of information to back up my claims. If you are too lazy to take the time to understand then just let the adults in the room handle this
Why would I listen to the random thoughts of stranger on the Internet? Back your statements up with something that doesn't come from social media and I'll begin to think maybe you aren't a Russian troll.
A province doesn't have the authority to do somethings like restrict international travel. That's on Trudeau. I think many Albertans would have agreed back in March 2020 that borders should have been closed. But that's racist, remember?
many Albertans would have agreed back in March 2020 that borders should have been closed
Many Albertans screamed blue murder about the few restrictions that actually were imposed. I wonder what they would have said about not being able to get to Hawaii and Mexico when the cold hit.
Because where the unvaccinated are concerned it's the same story everywhere, and the Ontario numbers were handy: the small percentage of the population that is unvaccinated is taking up the lion's share of the covid hospital beds. In Alberta hospitalization numbers go like this:
Fully vaxxed: 17.4%
Part vaxxed: 7.6%
Unvaxxed: 75%
What’s the average age of these patients and do they list any cormodities?
Eg. Some lady complaining the other week in BC about her jab “skeptical” hubby being in hospital with the Rona, and now pleading to folk to get the poke, becuase her ‘healthy’ 40yr old hubby got it- and that he now has changed his mind.
Why wouldn’t I be asking a question? Are questions not permitted? Look it up? Alright. Let’s do that. I believe it will be more positive news than the dinosaur media likes to terrorize the public into believing.
If anything, it’s a rhetorical question because we already can have an educated guess at the likely answer based on previous statistical/health data over Rona “cases” and very sick people. That is, the patients are likely older and or/also have underlying health issues.
Let’s see the prior happenings so far with the Rona, deaths “from” (or “with”) the Rona for Eg.
In BC - 96.6% of all Rona related deaths (as of July ish) are in long term care homes. 96.6% sounds a heck of a lot like 100% if one assumes (quite reasonably) rounding errors. Even the other way around +- 3%, that’s still 94%. Long term care homes tends to house the elderly and frail.
That’s no bitchute video, that’s from BC health itself.
Sure it’s from July, however that’s around a whole year of the Rona panic. A years data at the “height” or the “pandemic” should be enough to give one a pattern.
Moreover, poring over the data on BC health’s sure one can see the vast majority of those admitted to the hospital over BC as a province were elderly as of about july. Has much changed since? Maybe. Why would it?
If the pathogen has switched from finishing off the elderly and frail to younger folk that would mean it’s mutating into a more pathogenic form. That would be unusual seeing as that flies in the face of virii self sustaining evolution. Virii mutations mean weaker ones, not stronger. A virus will not exist if it kills its hosts too quickly. Sars-cov-2s other Corona cousins flu a and flu b, also kill only the frail elderly and very sick.
Meanwhile over in England, a FOIA request to their NHS royal Cornwall hospitals (pop 568K) asked the following Qs
a. What’s the total deaths from Corona ONLY from mar 20 to jan 21?
b. Total # of deaths who have died with Corona AND also had additional health issues?
c. What is the number of cycles used in the NHS for the covid PCR tests to determine a diagnosis?
Answers
A. 11 patients died from only covid.
b. 135 patients died with covid had underlying health conditions.
C. At least 38 cycles.
Source: UK FOIA Request ref 12505 Jenna Dunstan information governance team.
11 patients died from Rona only. Out of a pop of 568k that’s 0.0019%. Being charitable, let’s say 135 and 11 deaths aren’t part of the same dataset and are additive. 146 people. 146 people died either with or from the Rona in that part of England March 20-Jan 21, again, supposedly including the ‘deadly’ winter period.
0.025% or the other way around, a survival rate of 99.6% rounded up pessimistically. Sounds a heck of a lot like official CDC and English ONS IFR (infection fatality ratio) numbers of 0.005% & 0.003% respectively. Let’s go all dinosaur fake news fear porn media with the ‘grim milestone’ with the worst case scenario 0.054%, a 94.6% survival rate. That’s for 70+ years. (Source: CDC Scenario 5)
Back to the original Q about ages, health conditions of patients admitted into Canadian hospitals with the “Rona”:
I’m going to look into that. And the data will show either:
There is no information avail (or kept) over ages and existing diseases /conditions of patients admitted - which will be odd. As what changed? Why so coy now when data was available before?
The data will show a similar pattern. That is, the elderly and or frail with cormobidities.
The pathogen over the course of a few months suddenly mutate, and infect and hospitalize (allegedly un poked) folk over a random age cohort. Strange, considering that mutating Corona virii get weaker not stronger.
Ah, the fabled Indian/delta variant. A mutation the health Poohbahs in BC/ON for Eg, are so sure to be befalling people. Which raises 2 questions:
How do they know it’s a slightly different cov 2, when the much ballyhooed PCR test cannot tell the difference between a cov2 original version or the Indian version let alone influenza?
Does the fact that in BC, Herr Gesundheitfuhrer Bonnie Henry decreed that persons refusing a test on admittance would be assumed to have the coof? Or some similar pronouncement - going off memory. The end result was assumed “cases” at any rate to a degree.
Can the health cheeses like Adrian Dix et al, really say with a straight face that it’s the unjabbed, knowing likely that at least 1 person has been admitted within days of taking a shot or 2? Because of the capricious sophistry of only counting people as jabbed after a full 14 days? And that if I’m hospital for more than 14 days, on discharge still only counting jab “status” from the original date of admittance?
Oh but the holy lanced are only fully protected after 14 days! Okay, so no possibility of adverse reactions causing the hospitalizations? Perhaps the powers that be should be making sure of that eh? First do no harm and all that. What would the harm be?
It’s not like Pfizer /Moderna make billions out of this and exiting treatments like HCQ, Regeneron and an inhaled corticosteroid bidesimide that cost pennies or a few bucks might have anything to do with it.
Anyway. I digress. I’ll endeavour to look that info up about patient ages and current diseases and get back to this forum. Meanwhile, you are free to do the same.
After all, for a disease so ‘deadly’ and ‘terrifying’ one would imagine you want to find out yourself right?
However, if you got the double double, you have nothing to worry about. All is well.
There's something not right about the number of "deaths". Alberta has a similar population to Norway, similar case counts, and similar vaccination rate. Norway is opening up and has almost no deaths, Alberta has 20+ deaths per day and supposedly is in crisis. The only difference I can think of is big city demographics in Alberta and hospital unions/workers being anti-conservative, the extent that they're willing to go on strike during a pandemic. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/strike-inevitable-for-alberta-nurses-likely-two-months-away-1.5565332
It's the unvaxxed few that are taking up most of the covid ICU beds,
It's not.
Up to OCt 1st 56,151,862 doses of vaccine had been administered.
"Up to and including October 1, 2021, a total of 195 reports with an outcome of death were reported following vaccination. Although these deaths occurred after being vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, they are not necessarily related to the vaccine."
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/
Deaths that could be attributed to being vaccinated can easily be "covered up". In order to determine how many people died as a direct result impartial autopsies would have to be performed on everyone who dies within a certain time period after receiving a dose. What are the chances of that happening?
Would imagine a post mortem looking for thrombii in the brain and the frequency of it amongst the dead that happened to have been single or X2 jabby would be an Interesting data set.
Yeah, but that tends to happen mostly on TV and at the movies. Oh, and on social media and Fox.
There's obviously no point in trying to have a rational discussion with you. I suspect if it happened to someone you know you'd still deny it could be possible.
It's below. You have to be able to read for a while though. Hint: 0.008% of vaccine recipients had to get medical attention afterwards. In most cases for issues that didn't seem to have any connection to the vaccine.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/
You'll have to back that up. Canada has 13 different healthcare systems. There is no country-wide blanket protocol for dealing with covid in healthcare systems, like there is in Federally controlled and/or regulated offices.
Sorry about your two acquaintances - and I really mean that - but there have been over 56 million jabs and two unsupported anecdotal stories don't carry much weight.
Health Canada makes suggestions but healthcare is a provincial/territorial responsibility. Can you be more specific?
How many of them are between doses?
They are acknowledged. You shouldn't exaggerate the very tiny potential for injury compared to the virus.
To the best of my knowledge most people have the right to refuse the vaccination. They may have to work from home in a new job, but it's still their choice.
We'll see.
They're just health care professionals listening to their colleagues in the discipline.
How does the virus (the Rona) “injure”?
Have you had the Rona already? If so, what was it like?
Have you had the double double? If so, what make?
Hey guess what. You are not considered “fully vaxxed” until two weeks after your second jab.
This is how they are gaming the statistics. I have spoken with nurses that have said the hospitals were never overwhelmed until people started getting the jab. The doctors are not reporting vaccine injuries and sending people home without explanation of their symptoms. Your statement does fit the narrative of the mainstream but it’s not true.
Sure. Truth comes from rule-free social media sites, not infectious disease and public health experts. Makes perfect sense.
Because that's when the vaccine reaches its full effectiveness.
It's not hard to understand.
Vaccines aren't fully effective, though.
Of course not. From day 1 of the vaccines' arrival no one has ever claimed more than 95% effectiveness at the best, and that is for reducing the harm cause by the virus, not blocking it completely.
Some of the ones approved elsewhere - I mean not in Canada - are down in the 50 - 60% range, I seem to recall.
Retarded fucking troll
You stated "full effectiveness".
You are missing the point. The hospital will not treat you as vaxxed. They won’t treat you as a vaxx injury because of this bullshit logic. The vaxx has a 1 percent efficacy rate of keeping people from getting Covid. You need to do some research bud
The vaxx does not prevent anyone from getting covid.
What it does is lessen the severity of your response to covid most of the time, but not always.
The benefit of this is that fewer people wind up in the hospital, and more people can get treatment for cancer, heart issues, traffic accidents, etc.
There is no benefit to trillions of injected spike proteins. It’s doing more harm than good brah!
A ‘full effectiveness’ that - a few short months ago, Pfizer/Moderna et al were all crowing about their ‘safe and effective’ 95%? And that only 1 shot would be needed, no masks and everyone goes back to ‘normal’.
That turned into:
“Sorry it’s going to be 2 shots to be effective now”. Still wear the holy cult rag.
Then “the jab works but you can still catch the Rona and give the Rona to others”. Still wear the rag of obedience.
As above but Now “it doesn’t really prevent catching or giving the Rona but it reduces the severity of the symptoms”. Oh and still anti social distance and Don the face fabric of shame.
4.Then a few weeks ago. Mainline press releases admitting from big pharma that the jabs were only around 30-40% effective. Still keep away from others like a leper and hide your visage with the sacrament of sin.
Then “sorry we need boosters for everyone”.
Now Israel is talking about a 4h shot.
Now recent public mainline news about big pharma coming up with a daily pill for the Rona. Because, I suppose the earlier attempts at a prophylactic infusion to prevent infection worked so well😏
VAERS having more entries in it for jab side effects and deaths for the last year or so, then the prior decades combined. Sure, ‘anyone’ can put an entry in VAERS But before it got traction in the public eye, it’s likely Joe Public had no clue about the VAERS system and probable that the public have better things to do than sit around and bash false data into VAERS. If the authorities considered the data to be so faulty, the site would have been taken down.
Flu has “disappeared” according to the big talking heads of gov. Ahuh. It’s a miracle! It must be the masks (that have holes 5000x bigger than the pathogen) and distancing! Ahuh.
All for a pathogen- sars-cov-2, practically identical to sars-cov-1, that has an IFR (infection fatality rate) of 0.03% (ONS figures, office of national statistics, HM UK gov, one can find this data within mins on a lookup, not secret data)
US data? For anyone looking? CDC worst case survival rate for people up to around 50, something like 99.97%. Average age of death in UK of the Rona, 80-85, matching the average natural death rate.
It's almost as though this is a brand new - to humans - virus, and things are unfolding as it spreads and mutates, and as we learn more about it ans how to fight it.
Brand new, yes. If this is referring to the possibility that this Rona bug was engineered in Wuhan.
Otherwise brand new. Yes- perhaps on a geological time scale- otherwise practically identical to sars-cov-1, similar to MERS, Avian Flu, flu a, flu b, and the common cold.
All branches of coronavirii. These things have been with us since the Dawn of mankind.
How do we fight it? Like any other respiratory virus.
Let it run its course naturally. It will soon weaken and become a minor nuisance like many other respiratory virus. Stop giving out the gene therapy.
Get Grandad out of the care home regularly and keep his mind and body active. Take a good amount of vitamin D, zinc, C, fresh clean air, age suitable excercise, eat your fruit n dark veg, don’t be afraid of lots of yummy saturated animal fat and steaks, eggs.
Hug people, shake hands, throw big dinner parties, stop using that ethanol hand sanitiser crap, share common harmless germs, granny was right, there is such a thing as too clean.
Take off the damn mask.
Well maybe the government could have spent that $400+ Billion on beefing up the nations healthcare system instead of handing out $2000 a month CERB cheques to every person who was too lazy to work or got screwed over by the very restrictions that the government, not the virus put into place.
If a couple hundred people spread across a province is enough to sink the system that should have been a massive wake up call. Christ, we've known the system was spread thin for a very long time now and we've done very, very little to address it let alone fix it.
But rather than fix it here we are firing healthcare workers that don't want to be bossed around with vaccine mandates. By the way, where are all the sick and dying nurses, doctors, care-aids? I mean for the past two years they have been on the front lines dealing with Covid patients non stop everyday.....why haven't we been seeing them drop like flies? I haven't seen or heard jackshit about that.
That's because you haven't looked, have you? https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-cases-and-deaths-in-health-care-workers-in-canada-infographic
Ok. A whopping 43 deaths nationwide in two years from a population of 38 million.
So yeah, like I said, you don't really hear about them getting sick and dying even though they are directly exposed to it frequently, daily even. Almost as if the whole thing is overblown bullshit meant to peddle vaccines and implement the passport system....neither of which are/will work but will make a select few even richer.
43 out of how many? There are not 38 million healthcare workers in Canada, so that statement is a non-starter. Tough to have a meaningful conversation with responses like that.
On the other hand healthcare workers in Canada do get the virus. 90,000 of them as of June 15 this year. The reason you don't hear about them is because you don't ask about it.
https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-cases-and-deaths-in-health-care-workers-in-canada
So 43 of 90,000 then. That's 0.047%.
The reason we don't hear about them is because only 43 of them died despite being exposed to the virus far more than the average person. That doesn't really make the news or help spread the fear does it?
I wonder what the average age of the 43 who died were and if they had any comorbidities? If I had to guess they'd probably be 60 or older based off the Health Canada stats that show hardly anyone under 60 has died from Covid over two damn years.
Norway shut down early and hard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Norway#Prevention_measures_and_response
Jason Kenney did the opposite and offered the nurses a 3% wage cut.
This is from August 2020:
Unlike Alberta.
The spread of CoVid is caused by the “jabbed”. It had nothing to do with how hard Alberta locked down. Use your fucking head
You got nothing to back you up.
Are you pretending to be retarded? There is lots of information to back up my claims. If you are too lazy to take the time to understand then just let the adults in the room handle this
Why would I listen to the random thoughts of stranger on the Internet? Back your statements up with something that doesn't come from social media and I'll begin to think maybe you aren't a Russian troll.
Only on social media.
A province doesn't have the authority to do somethings like restrict international travel. That's on Trudeau. I think many Albertans would have agreed back in March 2020 that borders should have been closed. But that's racist, remember?
Many Albertans screamed blue murder about the few restrictions that actually were imposed. I wonder what they would have said about not being able to get to Hawaii and Mexico when the cold hit.
Hardly...
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/the-road-to-canadas-covid-19-outbreak-pt-2-timeline-of-federal-government-failure-at-border-to-slow-the-virus-2
Hmmm. We've gone from "many Albertans" to you and one journalist's 18 month old opinion piece.
How any specific country acted at first matters not since Delta came around. What else you got?
A large majority of the covid people taking up beds in the hospitals are from the small minority that are unvaxxed?
In Norway? What's your point?
It's funny how you just ignored the huge hole I poked in your reasoning.
You're right. I should have pointed out those figures are from Ontario.
I missed that part. You seem to be saying that vaccine hesitancy has nothing to do with the situation in Alberta. Do I have that right?
You were talking about Alberta, why would you bring up Ontario?
Geez, you're a fucking retard that can't even hold a conversation....
Because where the unvaccinated are concerned it's the same story everywhere, and the Ontario numbers were handy: the small percentage of the population that is unvaccinated is taking up the lion's share of the covid hospital beds. In Alberta hospitalization numbers go like this:
Fully vaxxed: 17.4% Part vaxxed: 7.6% Unvaxxed: 75%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-severe-outcomes-covid-vaccination-1.6178449
What’s the average age of these patients and do they list any cormodities?
Eg. Some lady complaining the other week in BC about her jab “skeptical” hubby being in hospital with the Rona, and now pleading to folk to get the poke, becuase her ‘healthy’ 40yr old hubby got it- and that he now has changed his mind.
Fella had to be at least 250.
If that was an honest question you wouldn't be asking someone you don't know on the Internet. You'd be looking it up yourself.
Why wouldn’t I be asking a question? Are questions not permitted? Look it up? Alright. Let’s do that. I believe it will be more positive news than the dinosaur media likes to terrorize the public into believing.
If anything, it’s a rhetorical question because we already can have an educated guess at the likely answer based on previous statistical/health data over Rona “cases” and very sick people. That is, the patients are likely older and or/also have underlying health issues.
Let’s see the prior happenings so far with the Rona, deaths “from” (or “with”) the Rona for Eg.
Sure it’s from July, however that’s around a whole year of the Rona panic. A years data at the “height” or the “pandemic” should be enough to give one a pattern.
Moreover, poring over the data on BC health’s sure one can see the vast majority of those admitted to the hospital over BC as a province were elderly as of about july. Has much changed since? Maybe. Why would it?
If the pathogen has switched from finishing off the elderly and frail to younger folk that would mean it’s mutating into a more pathogenic form. That would be unusual seeing as that flies in the face of virii self sustaining evolution. Virii mutations mean weaker ones, not stronger. A virus will not exist if it kills its hosts too quickly. Sars-cov-2s other Corona cousins flu a and flu b, also kill only the frail elderly and very sick.
a. What’s the total deaths from Corona ONLY from mar 20 to jan 21? b. Total # of deaths who have died with Corona AND also had additional health issues? c. What is the number of cycles used in the NHS for the covid PCR tests to determine a diagnosis?
Answers A. 11 patients died from only covid. b. 135 patients died with covid had underlying health conditions. C. At least 38 cycles. Source: UK FOIA Request ref 12505 Jenna Dunstan information governance team.
11 patients died from Rona only. Out of a pop of 568k that’s 0.0019%. Being charitable, let’s say 135 and 11 deaths aren’t part of the same dataset and are additive. 146 people. 146 people died either with or from the Rona in that part of England March 20-Jan 21, again, supposedly including the ‘deadly’ winter period.
0.025% or the other way around, a survival rate of 99.6% rounded up pessimistically. Sounds a heck of a lot like official CDC and English ONS IFR (infection fatality ratio) numbers of 0.005% & 0.003% respectively. Let’s go all dinosaur fake news fear porn media with the ‘grim milestone’ with the worst case scenario 0.054%, a 94.6% survival rate. That’s for 70+ years. (Source: CDC Scenario 5)
Back to the original Q about ages, health conditions of patients admitted into Canadian hospitals with the “Rona”:
I’m going to look into that. And the data will show either:
Ah, the fabled Indian/delta variant. A mutation the health Poohbahs in BC/ON for Eg, are so sure to be befalling people. Which raises 2 questions:
Oh but the holy lanced are only fully protected after 14 days! Okay, so no possibility of adverse reactions causing the hospitalizations? Perhaps the powers that be should be making sure of that eh? First do no harm and all that. What would the harm be?
It’s not like Pfizer /Moderna make billions out of this and exiting treatments like HCQ, Regeneron and an inhaled corticosteroid bidesimide that cost pennies or a few bucks might have anything to do with it.
Anyway. I digress. I’ll endeavour to look that info up about patient ages and current diseases and get back to this forum. Meanwhile, you are free to do the same.
After all, for a disease so ‘deadly’ and ‘terrifying’ one would imagine you want to find out yourself right?
However, if you got the double double, you have nothing to worry about. All is well.