Former anti-vax Edson woman shares husband's COVID-19 ICU horror story.
(edmontonjournal.com)
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The projections in Box 1? where it says "They are not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19." How are they relevant? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
It was clearly stated when they were released that whether they would maintain their initial effectiveness was unknown. Nothing "quiet" about determining that a) they lose some over time, and b) results with the Delta variant might be different.
What does this have to do with vaccines that never claimed to work perfectly, only reduce the load on the healthcare system?
They never claimed to. What would be the state of our healthcare system - and economy - if they had never been introduced.
I have a hard time understanding why some people are so unhappy that a 100%-effective-vaccine-guaranteed-to-protect-everyone-from-any-damage-at-all has not appeared. So many of them fail to think about where we would be if waited for that.
Box 5. If CDC data is not your cup of tea then perhaps HM gov UK ONS data showing 0.03% IFR?
How about Canada? Their IFR is 0.07%. Of course, it’s a lot harder to find the average age of deaths and how many cormobidities they had. Curious.
However 99.6% of all Rona deaths in BC are in Long term care homes. Vast majority of hospitalised are around 80. The average age of non accident deaths in Canada is 85. (Source: HM Gov Canada https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html )
Quibbling about effectiveness and the timescale of the u turn is a side show.
If to “reduce severity of symptoms”, then what are the symptoms?
Mono nucleosis has worse symptoms and is way, way more infectious than the Rona is, yet no vaccine exists for that - despite requiring isolation in hospital for children for bad cases. It’s not usually fatal though.
You required proof of the difference between leaky and non leaky vaccines, I found it and supplied it, showing by clinical therapeutics definition, the Rona jabs are leaky.
Seeing as they have dropped to 30% effective, would a better way to be treat the frail elderly symptoms only if they come into hospital, much like we do if elderly/frail do with influenza?
Are you positing we should continue with a jab that has dropped to 70% ineffective?
Finally, care to reveal to the forum as to your status of receiving the holy anointing of the mystery infusion or not? Aka the Rona jab.
Also. Will you get the 3rd? And the fourth?
There is no Box 5 at the link you referenced: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
Different analyses of statistics are required for different purposes, most of which are not understood by people like you and me. I'm just going to paste in an answer to another post:
Those of us without a firm background in statistics might not understand the differences between the various ways of looking at the numbers. For example, here's a quote from a recent paper: "Currently, the global COVID-19 crude mortality rate is approximately 39 per 100,000 population, and the median case-fatality ratio-defined as the ratio of deaths to total infections-is estimated to be around 1.8%" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340241816_The_many_estimates_of_the_COVID-19_case_fatality_rate
So for those of us without the background to understand the technical nuances of the various numerical analyses I suggest we just go with the simple numbers. As of Oct 8 2021 in Canada there have been 1,585,972 cases which left victims alive, and another 28,186 people who didn't make it. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
That works out to 1.78% (just under 2%) of the people who tested positive for the virus having died. That's about 1 in 50.
Yeah. Fuck those old people. </s>
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Not sure what the argument is here. Vaccines should never have been used? Where would we be now if that was the case?
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Even if the IFR is 1.8%, that’s still a 98% Survival rate. I, and my family will take our chances, seeing as we have already had it, and now have about 27x better immunity than any jab. Worst case, natural immunity is superior.
https://headlineusa.com/harvard-natural-immunity-27-vax/
Scenario 5 or Table 5, the end part.
500 deaths per 1m cases.
Jab efficiency 33-40% https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/health-ministry-says-covid-vaccine-is-only-40-effective-at-halting-transmission/
https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1346
BC CDC data shows “stable and low deaths” http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID_sitrep/2021-08-26_Data_Summary.pdf
If you are that worried. Go take the 1 or 2 or 3 or 5 jabs if you want. 88% of Canada is jabbed. If you get it you’re covered. If Canada achieves 99% (because 100% is impossible as babies are always being born and well, you don’t give it to babies) then all is well… right?
Natural immunity is the best, but you have to survive the virus to get it. Worst case is actually dying from the virus, next worst is winding up with long covid.
Found it, thanks. It's a best guess for the future for one section of the population, subject to change as events unfold. It's not a reflection of what's currently happening, and it doesn't include anyone over 49.
The full quote: "the COVID vaccine is only 39% effective at preventing the transmission of the coronavirus, but more than 91% effective at preventing severe cases." We all wish there was something that stopped the virus cold, but no one has ever promised that. And preventing severe cases keeps hospital beds open for people with "normal" health problems. None of this is news.
That one confirms that two doses of the vaccine referenced are required for maximum effectiveness. That's not news.
Says the following:
"Based on last week’s data, compared with fully vaccinated individuals and after adjusting for age differences, unvaccinated individuals are
• ~12x more likely to become a case
• ~34x more likely to be hospitalized
• ~8x more likely to die"
I'm surprised you seem to be using that as support for not getting the vaccine.