Former anti-vax Edson woman shares husband's COVID-19 ICU horror story.
(edmontonjournal.com)
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Natural immunity is the best, but you have to survive the virus to get it. Worst case is actually dying from the virus, next worst is winding up with long covid.
Found it, thanks. It's a best guess for the future for one section of the population, subject to change as events unfold. It's not a reflection of what's currently happening, and it doesn't include anyone over 49.
The full quote: "the COVID vaccine is only 39% effective at preventing the transmission of the coronavirus, but more than 91% effective at preventing severe cases." We all wish there was something that stopped the virus cold, but no one has ever promised that. And preventing severe cases keeps hospital beds open for people with "normal" health problems. None of this is news.
That one confirms that two doses of the vaccine referenced are required for maximum effectiveness. That's not news.
Says the following:
"Based on last week’s data, compared with fully vaccinated individuals and after adjusting for age differences, unvaccinated individuals are
• ~12x more likely to become a case
• ~34x more likely to be hospitalized
• ~8x more likely to die"
I'm surprised you seem to be using that as support for not getting the vaccine.
Yes. Maximum effectiveness at 2 jabs. Now 3, or 4 Israel is thinking about.
A jab so “effective” - one needs 3 or 4 to even “reduce symptoms or severity”. Nah we’re good.
Well aware of BC CDCs interesting vagueness. . X12 more likely to become a case. Hmm. For everyone Dr Henry? All ages?
Okay, fine by us. Whole family already had it. If we get it again in the wild the T memory cells will be on it like white on rice.
X34 likely to go to hospital. Already had is so meh. X8 likely to die. X likely okay.. what’s the other side of the equation? “New Tide Powder, 8X likely to remove stains.” Than what? 8x Persil? 8x Purex? 8x using water? Does bc CDC tell you the chances of dying of not taking it? If it’s less than 2% then again, we’re good.
Wonder what Henry has to say about likely hood of getting it again if you’ve already had it? Haven’t heard her talk about that…
Anyway I can even tell you what it was like. An odd flu ish period of about 10, maybe 11 days. feeling a bit hot, some chills, a cough, muscle or body aches, a bit tired, wasnt enjoying food as much. No runny nose at all, which was the odd oart. Just went to work as normal thinking was working too hard and took it easy in the office. Ended up giving it to the other half, elderly parents and siblings. Probably a lot of the lads at work too. Didn’t even think I was sick at the time.
Similar story with them. Everyone recovered and is now fine.
Even our doctors were blasé about us getting the jab during a routine check up once he learned we all had it already. That’s where I learned the natural immunity thing from. That’s a natural vaccine right there. Good ol memory T cells.
If anything. We are in a better position against folk who have never had it, then get it and pass on a shedded variant, because natural immunity means all the variants are defended against, not just the first one.
Whilst I appreciate your concern for my health, am doing just fine and if you are worried about me giving it to someone hey there’s always the jab for them. Like I said. There’s 4 jabs now and a pill coming up so plenty choice for folk that want to collect the set.
I'm pretty impressed with the focus on you, and your casual unconcern for anyone you might have passed it on to without knowing. There are 28,000 Canadians who died from it.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
Had a look at that chart /data you provided. Which essentially just repeats what has been given in previous data points. One should always go back and ask. What does the data say? So far it’s been consistent- it affects the elderly and frail.
The truth of the matter, the relevant data is buried at the bottom of the gov Canada page, I’m sure that’s just coincidence. The Trudeau admin is known for its transparency, they said so themselves.
Age and sex of hospitalizations: Roughly rounding - 94% of deaths are 60 years or over. 84% of deaths were 70 years and over.
A conspicuous absence of data on this page (unless I’m just being blind) is the number of cormobidities per patient.
Still looking at the page to see what the ages were of the people unjabbed hospitalised. Again another odd missing data set from breathless fake news media coverage of “a pandemic of the unvaccinated” when parroting Herr Bonnie Henry’s incomplete data.
I’m no doctor, but elderly people tend to have other things wrong with them, sometimes serious. It’s also commonly accepted that even a common cold can finish off a particularly frail elderly person.
It would be absurd to assume all the deaths in the 84% 70+ cohort were all ex Canadian natural Mr. or Ms Universes in rude health.
On to the contracting sars2 and “infecting” others. Am I, and my family, supposed to stop what we are doing, not go to work or shop, earn a living etc, every time we feel a bit under the weather, a bit tired or sniffly etc? Then cower in our homes terrified for 14 days each time just in case it’s the Rona?
Are we supposed to lock down our small biz every time? No we will not, and cannot. We have to pay the bills.
Now, this does not mean that I, and my other half and others go out of our way to walk into Walmart and smear our noses on the jars of PB or sneeze on people? I wash my hands, take cold medicine to inhibit the symptoms, high dose Vit D, C, don’t shake hands, not get too close tje the cashier etc and get the shopping done. If you are so weak that a very mild flu or cold kills you, that’s your problem, not mine.
If a cold or respiratory virus is very sneezy or runny I’ll stay home, if only because it’s so inconvenient to be constantly dabbing ones eyes or nose and the tissues can be infectious.
If I get influenza I stay home,(because real flu makes one just want to lie around) I had it dec 2019, felt like shit for 2 weeks, then had the Rona a few months later in 2020 and it don’t even know what it was it was so mild.
Anyway, If we all did that over reacting to every possible ‘might might not be a cold or just some allergies’ cos it might be Corona- sniffle or feeling, the economy would grind to a halt, thousands of businesses and families and jobs would be thrown to the wolves and the money spent by consumers would instead go to the giant corps.
Oh… wait a min.
Like already been said, had no idea what it was at first, gave it little thought, as just felt it was over work.
It was only afterwards we all decided to get a test (what little accuracy the PCR is anyway) as was curious.
A siblings ex spouse also got the Rona. Was the only one of the extended family to die. Was also a lifelong smoker, was over weight and had COPD. But sure, it was the coof that killed the person… in the end died of pneumonia. If had never smoked in whole life, wasnt a fat sod and ate right and excercised, would still be around.
28,000 people dead. Yes, if we can trust the figures from the Trudeau admin. Because the gov would never lie to us, ever, scouts honour.
Out of 40m people. So that’s 0.07% of the Pop. For a pathogen with a 1.8% alleged IFR , and such a terrible high speed of infectiousness, it sure is doing an incompetent job at killing people en mass over what, almost 2 years now?
If applied over the whole pop. Say the whole pop gets infected and we apply the alleged 1.7% IFR. That’s about 680,000 dead. But 88% are jabbed. So that means it reduces deaths apparently. That’s 33.4M allegedly protected in some way.
So maybe it’s those unjabbed folk. 7.6m of them. Alright, and since 84% of the allegedly unjabbed dying in hospitals, then we would have to find what percentage of people in Canada are over 70 and unjabbed. As that, would be the biggest problem to address. That also shows that if the jabs work (to whatever constantly changing degree) then it would make sense to have everyone 60 and over jabbed, (94% of folk dying in hospitals allegedly of Corona) and to leave the younger cohort be.
Canada is a stones throw from 90% jabbed. As it inches towards 95%, potentially that’s roughly 2m remaining unjabbed.
Let’s apply some logic:
Oh but now the version is that the jabbed can still get it, give it. It just reduces the chances or dying or severity.
Okay. Let’s game that out. Hypothetical situation (that will soon be on us anyway) 98% of the pop are now jabbed. Remember! We are only about 10% away from that now! What then? Will the deaths keep going at the same rate or reduce? Guess this forum is going to be back in 6 months and we will find out.
Ok, so- according to the data you put forward, the Rona kills on average 1.8%. Let’s go all out and round it to 2%.
If the Corona sars2 was SO infectious, and it killed 2 people for every 100 infected (allegedly no age discrimination) then where are the bodies? We’re only at 28100 dead in 2 years?
So horrible the yearly death count is similar to all the other years? (So much for ‘excess deaths)
But you know more than the experts in infectious diseases and public health protocols. Your uneducated common sense is more valid than all their training, experience, and clinical trials.