Think about what you just said and ask yourself what difference it makes. Answer: none. Two thirds to three quarters of the people in the hospitals test positive for covid, and they come from one fifth of the population.
As for the government stats they track since December 2020
I'll give you the link again so you can look at it this time. The numbers are for the people in some hospitals in Ontario on October 20, 2021 at 7:33 a.m. (EST). They have nothing to do with the past. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
If you answer with more unrelated arguments and unsupported opinions you will have the last word.
The hospital figures in Ontario include anyone who tests positive for covid regardless if the main reason for hospitalization is actually covid.
The average age of death from covid is greater than the life expectancy. It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs. In fact we have less than 1k deaths under 50 in two years and total deaths/hospitalizations skew mainly 70+
The following is from your own link. I don't think you read it. "While the two-dose mRNA vaccine’s efficacy against infection wanes, its protection against Covid-related hospitalizations persists, remaining 90% effective for all coronavirus variants of concern — including delta — for at least six months, according to the study, which was funded by Pfizer."
anyone who tests positive for covid
You keep saying that, but it doesn't change the fact that for every 100 people in the hospitals yesterday who tested positive for covid, about 70 of them came from the 20% of the population that isn't vaccinated. If the vaccines were no good there would only be 20 instead of 70.
It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs
You didn't answer when I asked you before. Why is that important?
My God man, 99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not. The vaccine is useless and anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what 90% of that 1% that need hospitalization?
99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not.
So you say, with no data to back you up. On the other hand the Internet is full of reputable sites which report that one person dies out of every fifty who test positive for the virus. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Never mind just being hospitalized.
anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what
Here's a quote from the first result in the duckduckgo search above: "In granting full approval, the FDA analyzed data from 44,000 study participants. Half received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the other half received the placebo. Over six months of follow-up, the vaccine was 91.1% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection." https://www.health.harvard.edu/covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs
You still haven't answered. Why is that important?
They are. They were originally over 90% and have slipped to 80% for the reasons you gave. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison
Think about what you just said and ask yourself what difference it makes. Answer: none. Two thirds to three quarters of the people in the hospitals test positive for covid, and they come from one fifth of the population.
I'll give you the link again so you can look at it this time. The numbers are for the people in some hospitals in Ontario on October 20, 2021 at 7:33 a.m. (EST). They have nothing to do with the past. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
If you answer with more unrelated arguments and unsupported opinions you will have the last word.
The efficacy is not 80% its according to this study 53%
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/04/pfizer-covid-vaccine-protection-against-infection-tumbles-to-47percent-study-confirms.html
The hospital figures in Ontario include anyone who tests positive for covid regardless if the main reason for hospitalization is actually covid.
The average age of death from covid is greater than the life expectancy. It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs. In fact we have less than 1k deaths under 50 in two years and total deaths/hospitalizations skew mainly 70+
The following is from your own link. I don't think you read it. "While the two-dose mRNA vaccine’s efficacy against infection wanes, its protection against Covid-related hospitalizations persists, remaining 90% effective for all coronavirus variants of concern — including delta — for at least six months, according to the study, which was funded by Pfizer."
You keep saying that, but it doesn't change the fact that for every 100 people in the hospitals yesterday who tested positive for covid, about 70 of them came from the 20% of the population that isn't vaccinated. If the vaccines were no good there would only be 20 instead of 70.
You didn't answer when I asked you before. Why is that important?
My God man, 99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not. The vaccine is useless and anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.
The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what 90% of that 1% that need hospitalization?
So you say, with no data to back you up. On the other hand the Internet is full of reputable sites which report that one person dies out of every fifty who test positive for the virus. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Never mind just being hospitalized.
You would have a point if that was the only evidence, but it's not. There are hundreds of independent studies that confirm its effectiveness. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=scholarly+pfizer+effectiveness&t=h_&df=m&ia=web
Here's a quote from the first result in the duckduckgo search above: "In granting full approval, the FDA analyzed data from 44,000 study participants. Half received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and the other half received the placebo. Over six months of follow-up, the vaccine was 91.1% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection." https://www.health.harvard.edu/covid-19/covid-19-vaccines
You still haven't answered. Why is that important?