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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

Your own link references a science study that says vaccination is recommended, because "Seropositivity for anti-N antibodies should not be interpreted as protection from future infection." - meaning just surviving covid is not enough - and goes on to recommend getting vaccinated.

Why is that not good enough for you? It's not the opinion of some individual article writer. It's the result of the analysis of 5 recent months of data from 50 US states plus some territories, involving many tens of thousands of individual cases, by a team of trained scientists.

Why isn't natural immunity or negative tests good enough for travel here

Is that not science enough for you?

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CanadianRighty [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not enough, I want the science that shows the real world effectiveness of the infringements of constitutional rights.

Or you could just admit there is no evidence.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

the real world effectiveness

Your own post links to a study that shows that vaccination is the best protection. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e3.htm

Hospital records show that unvaccinated people are a greater burden on the healthcare system. Today's numbers from Ontario hospitals show 21% of the covid patients come from the 10% of the population that is not vaccinated.

Unvaccinated people should not be packed tightly into enclosed spaces breathing recirculated air with people who could be carrying the virus.

It's pretty simple.

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VaxedAndContagious1 7 points ago +7 / -0

Tuchodi posts: ”vaccination is the best protection.” FALSE.

1. THE FULLY VACCINATED HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF COVID INFECTIONS

FACT

2. THE COVID VACCINE FAILED 85% OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS

3. Dr Zain Chagla, infectious diseases specialist confirms VACCINE STATUS IS IRRELEVANT IN THE ICU.

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tuchodi -6 points ago +1 / -7

Nope. Overall the vaccines reduce the damage the virus does.

28 February 2022 "in the six-month period July to December 2021, the estimated relative risk of admission to Jersey General Hospital due to clinical COVID for those aged 40 and over was 3.5-14.4 times greater in those who had received less than two doses of COVID vaccine than in those who received two or more doses of the vaccine." https://www.gov.je/Health/Coronavirus/CoronavirusDocuments/R%20COVID%20Cases%20Vaccine%20Status%20Report.pdf

Nov. 25, 2021 "Unvaccinated people are about six times more likely to test positive than vaccinated people, nine times more likely to be hospitalized, and 14 times more likely to die from COVID-related complications" https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid

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tuchodi -6 points ago +1 / -7

No one can tell if that's true by reading your post, can they?

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VaxedAndContagious1 6 points ago +6 / -0

.

POSTING INACCURATE REPORTING AGAIN TUCHODI? Not very scientific don’t you think? Why keep posting ONTARIO DASHBOARD when you know it has a disclaimer warning that their reporting is incomplete and inaccurate. Why are you knowingly posting inaccurate reporting Tuchodi?

Dr Zain Chagla, infectious diseases specialist confirms VACCINE STATUS IS IRRELEVANT IN THE ICU.

A triple-vaccinated 70-year-old with diabetes, for instance, would still have a higher risk of severe illness and hospitalization than an unvaccinated 30-year-old. Of course, discriminating against the ability to travel based on age would be unethical.

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tuchodi -6 points ago +1 / -7

you know it has a disclaimer warning that their reporting is incomplete and inaccurate.

I don't suppose you could back that claim up with a link, eh? Nothing personal, but I think we shouldn't be expected to just take your word.

Dr Zain Chagla, infectious diseases specialist...

Or that one?