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Bannonmeharder 7 points ago +7 / -0

Something we have been saying from the beginning

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CanadianRighty 5 points ago +5 / -0

Bypass paywall

https://archive.ph/69cRc

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ThePopCan [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can always open it in Incognito to bypass paywall, because it won't detect that you've read x amount in the allotted time.

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squiddlwe 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope Tuchodi gets boosted, and then get AIDS

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tuchodi -6 points ago +2 / -8

Below are the study's results (https://archive.ph/unOOV#selection-5215.0-5215.957). It says the best protection comes from surviving covid and getting three doses of vaccine. After that 1) surviving covid and two doses, and 2) three doses of vaccine are pretty close together.

Ask yourself how and why the article author chooses that misleading title when the paper actually illustrates the benefits of three doses of vaccine.

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The effectiveness of previous infection alone against symptomatic BA.2 infection was 46.1%

The effectiveness of vaccination with two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible, but nearly all persons had received their second dose more than 6 months earlier

The effectiveness of three doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was 52.2%

The effectiveness of previous infection and two doses of BNT162b2 was 55.1%

the effectiveness of previous infection and three doses of BNT162b2 was 77.3%

Previous infection alone, BNT162b2 vaccination alone, and hybrid immunity all showed strong effectiveness (>70%) against severe, critical, or fatal Covid-19 due to BA.2 infection.

Similar results were observed in analyses of effectiveness against BA.1 infection and of vaccination with mRNA-1273. +++++++++++++++++

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VaxedAndContagious1 7 points ago +7 / -0

The Canadian Minister of Health is on camera saying two doses are worthless, “they don’t work”, “you are not protected”.

https://omegacanada.win/p/15IEqctEDk/the-twodoses-of-the-covid-vaccin/c/

Why are you ignoring Trudeau’s science Tuchodi? Go get your back to back 3rd and 4th government injections!!

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

The Canadian Minister of Health is on camera saying two doses are worthless, “they don’t work”, “you are not protected”.

Sounds like you missed the news that boosters are required.

Why are you ignoring Trudeau’s science Tuchodi?

You're the first person I've met who tries to read between the lines of something they can't read.

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VaxedAndContagious1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Your two first injections were worthless as Trudeau’s minister said. Lol.

Worthless. And you still have the heart disease risk and sudden death risk tho!

So now you have to submit to the boosters Tuchodi!!

There is nothing that would make me happier than knowing your are already DOUBLE boosted.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

Your two first injections were worthless are weak now but provided protection at the time.

Fixed that for you.

And you still have the heart disease risk

A tiny heart disease risk compared to the damage from the virus. "It's also worth noting that Covid-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine is, and people who are vaccinated have a much lower risk of getting other serious complications caused by Covid-19". https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered/covid-19-vaccines-and-myocarditis-should-you-be-worried

and sudden death risk tho!

So you say, but so far it's just you spouting opinions with no support. As usual.

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VaxedAndContagious1 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s a lot of OCD writing just to admit you got fooled.

You are now a ticking neurodegenerative time bomb. You are at high risk of vaccine induced disease. More clinical data will come out.

And you’ll never be able to unvaccinated yourself.

All for a virus with 99.9% survival rate.

You are the definition dumb and gullible. So embarrassing for you .

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

You are at high risk of vaccine induced disease.

Only according to you. If anyone agrees you aren't showing it.

More clinical data will come out.

You have a crystal ball, you think. But it has to doesn't it. or you'll be exposed as a misinformation minion.

Provincial medical records all show that unvaccinated people are over-represented in hospital and ICU beds - for example Alberta https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm, Ontario https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/, and BC http://www.bccdc.ca/health-professionals/data-reports/covid-19-surveillance-dashboard.

Scintific American agrees. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/

There is no study in existence that claims the vaccinated would not get infected or not catch the virus.

I'm glad you're admitting that. Does this mean you'll stop pretending vaccinated people shouldn't catch the virus?

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CanadianRighty 3 points ago +3 / -0

"previous infection alone ... showed strong effectiveness"

You data demonstrates how vastly superior natural immunity is compared to the vaccines. (you always denied this longstanding scientific fact until now, treating is as a conspiracy theory in a desperate attempt to misinform people)

It proves natural immunity persists beyond 6 months where immunity from vaccination does not.

A few months ago you were fine with people who were vaccinated over 6 months ago with "negligible" protection getting a free pass to fly, while the naturally immune with "strong effectiveness" were treated as a second class.

It's time to begin apologizing for spreading misinformation and disinformation.

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tuchodi -6 points ago +1 / -7

"previous infection alone ... showed strong effectiveness"

Sure, except that:

  1. you have to live through covid to get it. Over six million people haven't managed that.

  2. it's at 46.1%, compared to stronger protection from everything else except doing nothing and failing to get boosted.

vastly superior

?? See response above. It's only better than doing nothing or failing to keep up with your shots.

longstanding scientific fact

You can call it that if you want but you're wrong.

A few months ago you were fine with...

... following public health guidelines instead of Facebook and Twitter experts. Still am.

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CanadianRighty 2 points ago +2 / -0

Am I wrong or did you say a few weeks ago that you're not boosted? When did you get boosted? When will you be getting your next booster?

"you have to live through covid to get it. Over six million people haven't managed that."

Source please? This is more disinformation.

"it's at 46.1%, compared to stronger protection from everything else except doing nothing and failing to get boosted."

Right, two shots gives no protection but prior infection gives "strong effectiveness".

"You can call it that if you want but you're wrong."

You still think natural aquired immunity is a conspiracy theory? Do you not agree with the science of immunology?

Side question, are you still overweight? Because if you are you should be cut off from society until you get with the science and get healthy. Being overweight is a primary co-morbidity and a massive strain on the healthcare system. It's an active choice you make every single time you overeat and eat unhealthy food.

Do you routinely exercise? If not same deal, you should obviously be cut from non essential activities especially eating at restaurants and flying.

I'll never understand hypocrites who expect others to take steps but refuse to take steps themselves, its incredibly entitled and selfish.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

Am I wrong or did you say a few weeks ago that you're not boosted?

You are wrong.

"you have to live through covid to get it. Over six million people haven't managed that."

Source please?

"Natural immunity is the antibody protection your body creates against a germ once you’ve been infected with it." https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know.

This is more disinformation.

You are wrong.

Right, two shots gives no protection but prior infection gives "strong effectiveness".

You are purposely ignoring that there are three other scenarios in that paper that give better protection than prior infection. Vaxxers and anti-vaxxers agree - for different reasons - that two shots six months ago are no longer very effective.

You still think natural aquired immunity is a conspiracy theory?

Unless you have had covid or are up to date with your shots you have no immunity to covid, or at best very little.

Do you not agree with the science of immunology?

I agree.

Side question, are you still overweight?

Nice to see you sober. Have you quit beating your wife?