CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys
Data released under court order shows 1 in 3 among earliest populations to get vaccinated reported needing medical care, missing school or work, or inability to "perform normal daily activities." CDC still fighting to keep v-safe "free-text field data" sec...
Since Health Canada relies on the CDC for justification of their policies as part of the "science" proof that CDC was covering for adverse reactions by leaving known side effects off of the official tracking mobile app used to justify children being vaccinated.
Court case with CDC refusing to release all the data.
ural and tuchodi are two of the dumbest most retarded idiots on the internet. I hope they both get AIDS
Lots of hyperbole here folks. People who had no problems are ignored, and the reports of minor issues, such as a phone call to Telehealth about a sore arm, are lumped in with the serious ones.
Of the "10 million-plus users" two thirds reported nothing at all. Of the one third who did report a reaction, the vast majority were of the aches and pains variety. Less than 3% of that one third were hospitalized.
That means that of the over 10 million people who were presumably vaccinated less than 0.75% needed hospital care, and some of them would have needed it for covid because - as we all know by now - the vaccines reduce the impact of the virus but they don't provide 100% immunity.
And those people in hospital went home, unlike the 1% of covid victims who die.
Concerning fatalities, the quoted rate was normal considering we're in a global pandemic (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), and so far there is still virtually nothing to link the vaccines to an accelerated mortality rate.
As for heart issues, they were so rare that they weren't detected in the trials. They were noticed eventually at a rate of less than 2 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccinations (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529)
And myocarditis fatalities were vanishingly rare. "Between December 14, 2020, and August 31, 2021, 192,405,448 individuals older than 12 years of age received a total of 354,100,845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines. ... Among persons younger than 30 years of age, there were no confirmed cases of myocarditis in those who died after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination without another identifiable cause and there was 1 probable case of myocarditis but there was insufficient information available for a thorough investigation. At the time of data review, there were 2 reports of death in persons younger than 30 years of age with potential myocarditis that remain under investigation and are not included in the case counts." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/07/15/dr-moore-covid-vaccine-ontario-myocarditis/
Ontario's head doctor said 1 in 5000 or less will get myocarditis based on health Canada reports.
But the article i posted is refering to disclosure in court rather than hyperbole posted to websites that are in the business of making money from big pharma
Folks, the article is written by Greg Piper, a journalist with no medical background (https://justthenews.com/greg-piper), who appears to be purposely looking through the wrong end of the telescope. His own sources - the links in his article - show that damage from vaccines is very much less than damage from the virus but he skips over that entirely and just beats the drum about transitory side effects.
It's a living, I guess.
As your own link states: "the leading heart center at the Toronto General Hospital has performed “approximately 65 cardiac MRIs for suspected vaccine-associated myocarditis as of February 2022.” ... A small number considering 12.6 million Ontarians have been vaccinated to date."
Never mind that virtually everyone recovers from any myocarditis the vaccines may induce: 2022 Jul 28 "COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis: A Systemic Review and Literature Search" - "A thorough literature search was conducted in Cochrane library, PubMed, ScienceDirect, and Google Scholar for published literature till 30 March 2022. ... all the reported patients recovered and were discharged home" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/
The just the news article is coverage of a court case. Is the case not real?
Not sure what attacking the messenger does except to misinform the public by attempting to discredit the reporter somehow.
What court case? No details there, but it provides a nice dog whistle for the conspiracy folks, doesn't it? For all we know it's just a routine 'access to information' request through normal channels.
Just pointing out he has no special expertise, so you can go to the documents he provides and read them yourself, because you're as qualified as he is.
And when you do you'll see he's ignoring the big picture and falling back on the "if it bleeds it leads" school of journalism in the hopes of making a buck.
You have looked at his links, I assume? And seen that less than 1% needed hospital care, there's no distinction between care for vaccine side-effects and treatment for covid, and there's no indication that anyone died?
File ICAN-CDC-joint-motion-v-safe.pdf
When you file with a court it usually requires a case.
From the link: "It got them through ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation against the CDC"
The reporter is free to call it litigation if he wants to, but it's a routine process that anyone with the time and money can access. It's not like there's some crusading lawyer out there doing something new.
It's just some journalist trying to earn a paycheque by telling stories that are scarier than they have to be.
Have you looked at his links, or are you just taking his word for it?
Geez. You resorted to posting egregious bullshit now?
Don't take my word for it folks. Look it up yourself. Number of deaths divided by number of cases. I'm using these sites but you're free to use your own:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/
Wrong. These charts are the death rates in confirmed cases. This is not the death rate from covid.
change the denominator and you’ll get a different ratio. You wanna debate basic math now?
ScoobyDoo is just trying to distract from the fact that if you test positive for covid there's an overall 1 in a hundred chance you'll die. If they've been doing any reading they'll argue about Case Fatality Rates / Infection Fatality Rates / Crude Mortality, Mortality by Age, and so forth.
Anything to draw attention away from the topic at hand, which is the rarity of serious myocarditis after vaccination.
Draw attention away you say? 1% of covid victims die... this is your claim. It's bullshit.
And you know it's bullshit. That's why you updated your wording after I called you out on it. It doesn't detract from the fact that you were bullshitting.
I should add... Your statement is still wrong. "if you test positive" is not the same as "people that have tested positive." If you don't know why, does some research into probabilities.
Folks, ScoobyDoo is free to make a post about the fatality rates for covid.
Meanwhile, the focus of this thread, myocarditis, - it's right there in the post's title - is the unwarranted concentration of attention on a rare and usually non-consequential side-effects of vaccination.
Are you deflecting because you're embarrassed that I called you out on your retardedness?
I was calling you out on egregious bullshit. Why even bullshit that 1% of people with covid die from it? Or, maybe you weren't bullshitting and you believe this because you're just too stupid to interpret basic stats.
https://www.quora.com/Is-myocarditis-permanent
I feel like it's worth mentioning that real covid gives even more risk of myocarditis than the vaccine so there's really no point bitching and especially going unvaccinated. If someone told you that the risks outweighed real actual risk during the pandemic and you believed them even though I warned you then you probably need to smarten up. After all, the rights anti VaxxerSS are Killing Republicans the clever people clued in when they directed you and pregnant women to TSC for some apple dewormer and told them to not worry about the math.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
https://theintercept.com/2022/10/10/covid-republican-democrat-deaths/
https://www.lsuhsc.edu/newsroom/Study%20Shows%20Myocarditis%20Linked%20to%20COVID-19%20Not%20as%20Common%20as%20Believed.html
https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/israeli-study-insists-risk-of-myocarditis-from-covid-vaccine-is-minimal/
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/07/08/no-increase-myocarditis-covid-infection-unvaccinated/
Two separate large studies show myocarditis from COVID is extremely rare. That's a lie that's been debunked.
Once again, attack the messenger not the fact that these are all incidents in a court case.
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/07/08/no-increase-myocarditis-covid-infection-unvaccinated/
Myocarditis is rarer in unjabbed vs jabbed as a fact.
Justthenews is as valid as Salon or any rag out there. Why dismiss the messenger without considering the fact the CDC tried to hide issues with the shots through exclusions?