If it is increasing, then I am glad it is. Warmer civilisations are thriving civilisations.
What’s so bad about a warmer earth? Would be nice to have Canada 2c on average warmer.
So if greenlands and Antarctic ice does melt…So what? Greenland is called Greenland becuase it used to be green. Greenland used to vary between 50F to about 1F.
The woods “burn up”? How do the woods “burn up” by simply having the average temperature increase by say. 3c? No. The cause of most forest and wild fires is lightning, not ambient temperature. Lightning will start a forest fire no matter if it’s 5c or 50c.
Higher co2 means better and thicker leaf growth and faster tree repopulation. Fire is a vital part of mother nature’s forest cleaning and renewal ecosystem and fires raged in the forest long before mankind came on the scene and interfered. Canada’s jack pine needs the heat of fire nearby to germinate. Can we reduce forest fires by clearing away undergrowth and having fire breaks? Yes. If we don’t, like California, Mother Nature will do it for us. The recent media hysteria of forest fires in BC were surreal. The fires should have been left alone to burn out, whilst protecting populated areas.
Your first question by the way. Noticed it’s getting warmer lately?
Hmm. Not where I choose to live. It’s been as cold or colder. 2015 IIRC was record levels of wind chill in Edmonton and Calgary. A good -35 every winter in Calgary and Edmonton for years. We could do with some of that global warming they keep talking about (incessantly since 1910 or so)
Are we talking localised crop failures or global record crop failures in average?
Because the global average main crop tonnage has increased from aboit 1.5Bn tonnes in ‘88 to about 3bn today.
Re droughts and storms. Relatively little now. Tree ring data going back to the 12th century show droughts back then to be way worse than the piffling amounts now. ( ref Tree-ring reconstructed megadroughts over North America since A.D. 1300 Stahl et al 2007) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-006-9171-x )
No I’m not saying that water vapour is bad, it’s the main ‘greenhouse gas’. But also that the greenhouse effect isn’t a bad thing. We need water vapour and an even higher co2 level. As you say, co2 is an amazing gas of life! More co2 please!
One doesn’t need search engines to be aware of basic records of ancient geology and past climate averages.
Q 1. What’s so bad about a warmer earth? A. Going from prior geological records, nothing, unless one is arguing boiling seas levels of heat, and that isn’t likely to happen for about 4bn years.
The Cambrian period and other prior periods were way, way warmer than it is today, and some had large amounts of ppm Co2 and life was abundant & earth greened.(however high co2 and earth temp has little to no correlation over geological time frames)
The Roman and both medical warm periods also brought advances in civilisations because it’s easier to flourish in warmer climates than it is colder. The medieval warm period was warmer than it is today.
Q.2 what’s so bad about the ice caps melting? a. Nothing terrible. They melted and weren’t formed for long geological periods with no harm, it’s patently common sense that artic animals would prefer and thrive in a warmer ice free continent than a brutally cold one.
Some of the richest varied fish and coral life is found in the hottest waters. Coral loves warmer water and warmer is better for many species of ocean life.
Q3. What’s so bad about rising co2 levels? To say 2000ppm? a. Nothing. It’s been higher than that in the past, in fact, the current level, 400ppm is close to the ‘death zone’ of plants being viable.
We need more co2, not less. Co2 is the gas of life- it makes plants flourish. If co2 was “toxic” or a “pollutant” commercial greenhouses wouldn’t pump the gas into their greenhouses to thousands of ppm. (Natural gas burners basically)Even then you need at least 10,000ppm for co2 to start to have an effect on humans.
Even the miniscule rise in co2 levels has done wonders for some areas of the planet.
I’m any case. Even if mankind tried to burn all the fuels economically viable to extract as quickly as possible, there wouldn’t be enough fuel in the ground to raise it another 400ppm or so (conservatively) or 2600ppm at the top end to get to the 12c the IPCC claims to be at the top end of their predictions.
End of the day, there’s a simple answer to power generation that removes the co2 hysteria completely. Nuclear Power.
Ok well since water vapour is the main greenhouse gas/effect.
Ok fine. The greenhouse effect is an important part of keeping the earth habitable. Greenhouse gas in and of itself is neither good nor bad. It’s just a natural phenomenon.
Wether there’s “too much” or “too little” of it is the issue, too much, and you get a warmer earth. Too little and earth is colder. Ok so: what’s so bad about a warmer earth? Geological history shows us past very warm periods happened with abundant life nothing terrible was a result. What’s so bad about a colder earth? Well we all know how that turned out. Ice ages.
How does the article or perhaps yourself consider a “greenhouse” gas? Methane? Co2?
Let’s do what if.
- What’s so bad about a warmer earth?
- What’s so bad about the polar ice caps melting?
- What’s so bad about co2 rising to 2000ppm over 400?
First comment from a member of the cultist Branch Covidian (Karen/covidiot) : “ Between this and our high vaccination rate. We could be out of this pandemic within a year.”
Ahuh. Oh… you poor, poor naiive trusting child. 1 more year to flatten the curve…
Government ruined it.
I posit it was great back around 1850 -1920 or so. Then the dairy mafia happened, price fixing happened (look up the Loblaw supermarket bread price collusion/fixing scandal ), breweries were bought out by faceless macro brew goliaths like Anhauser Busch etc, add a sprinkle of socialism, bam. Shitty bread, cheese and beer, unless you seek out imports from England or France.
Alas. Those are very expensive. There is some decent bread if you are willing to dig, but the macro brands are mostly crap. Decent croissants made with actual butter? Hah! Peasant you will eat sad dough with hydrogenated rapeseed oil and like it!
Wonder who bought the fat controller off ?
Governments looove raising the min wage. They know damn well most of it gets taxed away.
Cutting the tax rate? Nahhh don’t be silly. Can’t have the slaves keep their money now eh
Inflation is really around 10-12% a year. The CPI ‘basket’ the gubmint uses has a cute trick they do. Every time an item in the ‘basket’ gets a little owie on the wallet damage factor, and or rises enough to skew the CPI, they attempt and often find a substitute that’s cheaper. Literally cheaper in the sense of the word, as in, not as good.
I don’t believe steak is in the CPI anymore. They switched that out for mince, or what you North American weirdes call ‘hamburger’.
Also with the price of Canadian cheese- wouldn’t surprise me if it was switched out for I dunno, cottage cheese or frikkin cheestrings or something.
Whenever I stay/work in Canada the price of cheese/milk (esp imported cheese and butter) never ceases to be a source of incredulity bordering on the comical. $80 a kilo? Excuse me? I wanted to buy cheese not a block of copper.
Hmm wonder if our old friend $pros and $chwab are linked to this somehow if one follows the money.
Never ceases to amaze me how these clowns like XR and other assorted enviro knob heads have no work to do. Where’s a few adult bears or cougars when you need em.
I met the bloke once. He’s even more based in person. Him and Alderman Chu (I refuse to call them councillors) are about the only 2 on the council with any cojones.
The others are raging Marxists
Have 50 joggers jog around the block of her BC health headquarters where she lives continuously during office hours to troll. If Stasi hassle them, each one claims they don’t know the others.
Malicious compliance.
Neuremberg trial for that bought and sold corrupt puppet, and if found guilty in an international trial, hanging.
Ze cases! Ze cases!
Ze plane! Ze plane!
Paywall. What’s the scoop? Did they eventually get the dirty commie hippies off that private land?
Sounds like not. Here’s a solution. Jail time. At least one year. No parole. That should give the land owners time to cut down whatever trees they need to.
Bet she’s ugly and or fat.
Again? Why not just give the Indians a money printing press at this rate?
Inside every modern Dipper is a nazicommie Dictator screaming to get out
As much as ham can be annoying…. The numbers don’t lie. That’s painful to read. 25 seats. Jesus H Christ.
As much as I dislike the current shape of the Tory top brass I still voted tory in my riding as the last go around the Dippers were narrowly edged out… at the same time i’m assuming there has to be some long term Strategy from Bernier and his crew. Perhaps to keep increasing vote share until critical mass? Because at this rate it will be several election before that happens and we haven’t got that long the country descends to maximum warp 10 full retard.
I like Bernier. But at this point maybe okay, he’s made his point, he was able to interdict a slim tory win. I’m sure the Tory poobahs know full well.
Does Bernier have enough clout know to approach his old party and basically say “let me back in from the cold, let’s fix this country. Or, you can shut me out and get the same result next election.”
The whole thing is broken.
Who will blink first?
Weather has always been unreliable. Meteorologists can barely predict 2 weeks out let alone 20 years. Averages year over year? Sure.
But not Not I, as an expert. Just relaying what the data is. Weather or ‘climate’ related deaths (storms, floods, droughts, wildfires etc’ have fallen by 99% since 1920. Here: OFDA/CRED international disaster database- https://www.humanprogress.org/the-collapse-of-climate-related-deaths-2/
Re crop failures. Assuming that ‘global warming’ has been going on since the 1800s- the industrial Revolution and increasing generation of c02 - climate change will not disrupt this steady increase, if it is, it’s doing a bad job, let’s go back to US corn production records to 1866. 20 bushels an acre. Now? About 170bu/acre. Flat production until about 1940 then co2 generation rising to 10bn tons today from 1bn back in 1940.
Correlation doesn’t equal causation of course, but hey… plants do love some co2 to eat, more co2 means faster crop growth. Is some of this due to better Agro tech and machinery? Sure. All of it? You decide folks. Even if it was, bumper crops are outpacing anu failures.