I was talking about the Ontario health numbers page with the vague pie charts.
The one where the jabbies are 3/4 and the unjabbies are about 1/4 in hosp.
Who is 'they'?
You mean I follow the MSM? Not really. Would one prefer 'non mainstream' websites instead?
I'm sure the good Doc Kelen is a lovely person.
Can I at least wait until the clinical trial data is all in?
I gave up on Her Majesties Assembly for Scotland years ago. It's a lost cause.
The rest. For anyone paying attention this was all over the Daily Mail, Sky News, The guardian, BBC, it even made it into some north american news channels.
Keep up 007.
But I will try and find some videos, seeing as ones memory appears to reset after 60 days.
EDIT: Voila, behold, the ClownWorld that is The British Empire: Vindictive cops turn lack black to stop people looking at it during Rona- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165217/Picture-shows-idyllic-lake-turned-COMPLETELY-black-police-dye-stop-Instagrammers.html
Cops hassle 2 retired folks with a drone, tweet shame them after- https://inews.co.uk/news/derbyshire-police-coronavirus-drone-video-peak-district-uk-lockdown-rules-412377
2 ladies walking in middle of nowhere fined for being out and drinking coffee- https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/covid-fines-reviewed-after-two-women-surrounded-by-derbyshire-police/
There is scores of examples of this.
Enjoy your Colonies freedom in Her Majesties Dominion of Canada. While it still lasts.
Well, they are the numbers you gave us, so I figure we could start with those. Another "study" has been posted under new you may enjoy refuting. Have to earn your keep somehow.
Did you like your Mask and mixtape song? Its a gift from the forum. Only the best quality.
(Disclaimer: I do not claim this to be true or untrue. Just to keep Tuchodi from getting too excited on a Monday evening. Xir is welcome to refute is Xir so pleases)
More context from The Epoch Times Canada Newspaper:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/study-shows-false-positive-results-in-over-40-percent-of-positive-rapid-tests_4219253.html "A new study reveals that more than 40 percent of positive results in rapid antigen tests are false, findings that come at a time when provinces are increasingly relying on the rapid tests to form COVID-19 response strategies.
The study, conducted by the University of Toronto’s Rotman School of Management, was published in the JAMA peer-reviewed journal on Jan. 7, 2022. The researchers studied the results of roughly 900,000 rapid antigen tests taken in over 530 workplaces across Canada between Jan. 11 and Oct. 13, 2021.
During this period, the country experienced two major COVID-19 waves driven by the Delta variant, recording 1,322 positive rapid tests results, or 0.15 percent of the total tests. Among these positive cases, 1,103 patients were asked to take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test for further confirmation.
The study found that a total of 462 rapid test results were false, which represents 42 percent of the total 1,322 positive test results identified in the study, or 0.05 percent of the 900,000 results.
“These results inform the discussion of whether rapid antigen tests will result in too many false-positives that could overwhelm PCR testing capacity in other settings,” the researchers wrote.
They said their findings reflect the importance of having “a comprehensive data system to quickly identify potential issues,” though they also noted that the overall rate of the false-positive results compared to the total rapid antigen test screens was “very low.”
“With the ability to identify batch issues within 24 hours, workers could return to work, problematic test batches could be discarded, and the public health authorities and manufacturer could be informed,” they wrote.
Of the 462 false positive results, 278 (60 percent) were undertaken in two workplaces 675 kilometers apart by different companies between Sept. 25 and Oct. 8, 2021. The researchers said all of these false-positive test results were caused by a single batch of Abbott’s Panbio COVID-19 Ag Rapid Test Device, likely due to manufacturing issues rather than implementation.
The tests being administered too early or too late in the infectious stage, or the tests being done in an incorrect manner, were some of the reasons that could also contribute to the false-positive results, the study says."
"Are you a journalist?"
I understand it perfectly. Follow the money.
The relevant parts are there are they not. One number is higher than the other.
Wether that means Gov Scot's arse has no idea what it's elbow is doing (plausible, they have been incompetent for years) - or, they know they contradict themselves and don't care, is kinda meh at this point.
The know a lot of this doesn't make sense, they just don't care.
2 ladies walking in a remote rural area, fined by cops for drinking coffee and being out. People fined for sitting on park benches. Cops dumping black ink into a lake to stop people enjoying the scenery for daring to be out in the middle of mountanous areas.Fined for using park monkey bars or swings. You think Quebec is bad? That's nothing compared to the surreal big brother 'fines' meted out here.
A retired couple harrassed by a police drone many miles away from civilisation out walking their dog in the country side.
Gov scot is talking out of both sides of their mouth. Gov Scot has been conniving, marxist buggers for years that the SNP has been in power. "Krankie" women is as corrupt as you like.
There's also the money trail of a record amount of palliative care sedative stockpile being bought (all the same drug) 2 years ago, that would normally last many years, but they burned through it in about 1year.
This is all mainline public things that made the UK newspapers. The UK and Aus will fall before Canada. Canada is next. Quebec is just a practice run. Enjoy your "freedom" while it lasts.
You're asking the wrong person.
Maybe call your chum fatty ford and ask him why he isnt getting surgeries done despite being awash in beds. Oh. thats right. He fired lots of staff over a near harmless bug.
See? See? See? You can keep using that word. Doesnt make it true. Did I say the articles or even Steves comments were true? No.
See? Back.
I was expecting usernames. For whom.
I don't count. Ive already had corona. I'm immune. Maybe Ham? Pussy Whiskers?
More to the point....so?
Commiet-style artwork depicting Joe-Pedo and Dr. Anthony 'Sickle' Fauci as tyrants appeared overnight, D.C.
4 art pieces ridicule Biden and Fauci’s COVID dictates and hysteria.
The first piece shows an angry Biden holding up a hammer that says “OSHA” surrounded by the word “comply.”
The second shows children covered in red masks looking up admiringly at the Thief In Chief emblazoned with a halo made of syringes.
The third shows Biden sitting at a throne holding a coronavirus particle with the words “Mandate!”, “Segregate!”, and “Subjugate!” above him. (Somewhat reminds me of the phrasing used by the creepy Combine Overwatch over the AI (over city 17 tannoy) in Half Life 2)
The fourth piece, “Trust the Scientism”, shows Fauci dressed in a cassock holding a giant syringe.
Given D.C. is full of the elite who supported COVID mandates and restrictions, it’s fitting that these art pieces appeared right in their backyard.
It didn’t take long for a triggered Branch Cult Covidian Karen, Marxist-Covidiot-Communist (and ham planet) to start tearing down the epic artwork.
I think it's a spam bot.
This is very similar to how the cough "fictional" SPARS planning scenario rolled out. A major health leader gets thrown under the bus.
"tolerance" and "acceptance" from the left of centre. Just in times for Valentines day.
The crowdfunding is at 28 cents.
It's the thought that counts. I mean even working overtime as Pfizer PR and Part time for media matters only buys so many face burkas.
Don't worry! It's bylaw and "regulation" compliant. It's "tightly woven" just like the bylaw says. Since "tightly" isn't defined, you're good!
We even made you a mix tape to serenade you on your special Valentines day, the day you make love to your 4th jab and get your donut afterwards.
Sung in the style of Gladys Knight 'Licence to Kill'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju_by-sC79c
[Intro] W.H.O.Ooooh
Ah-aaah
I feel, I need, I've got to hold on to my jabs
W.H.O.-Ooooh (as the needle goes in)
[Verse 1]
Hey bigot, thought you were the one who tried to run away
Ohh, plaguerat, wasn't I the one who made you scared to vax?
Please don't bet that you'll ever escape it
Once we get the vaxx on you
[Chorus] I got a licence to shill
(To shill)
And you know vax's going straight to your heart
(Got a licence to shill)
Got a licence to shill
(To shill)
Anyone W.H.O's closer six feet apart
(Got a licence to shill)
License to shill
[Verse 2] Hey spreader, don't think you need a jab to stick your side?
Yes you do
(Your side)
W.H.O.OOOhh, bigot, now you can depend on me to shill it right
(shill right)
Please don't bet that you'll ever escape it
Once we get the vaxx on you
[Chorus] I got a licence to shill
(To shill)
And you know vax's going straight to your heart
(Got a licence to shill)
Got a licence to shill
(To shill)
Anyone W.H.O's closer six feet apart
(Got a licence to shill)
Got a licence to shill
(To shill)
And you know vax's going straight to your heart
(Got a licence to shill)
Got a licence to shill
(To shill)
Anyone W.H.O's closer six feet apart, W.HO.-ooo Vaxxmoney,
(Got a licence to shill)
[Bridge] Say that somebody tries to tell the truth on you
In the blink of an eye, I'll dEeb0oOnK it too
And they better know why I'm gonna get ma vaxpay
'Til your vaxxdyin' day
'Til your vaxxdyin' day
'Til your vaxxdyin' day-eeeeayyyyeyayyyyeayyyyy
[Chorus] Got a licence to shill
(To shill)
And you know vaxx killin right in your heart, baby
(Got a licence to kill)
Got a licence to kill
Anyone W.H.O's closer six feet apart
(Got a licence to kill)
I got a licence to kill
(To kill)
And you know it's goin' straight for your heart
(Got a licence to kill)
Got a licence to kill
And you know vaxx killin' right in your heart, W.H.O.-ooooh
(Got a licence to kill)
[Outro]
Licence to kill
Gotta hold onto your pass,
Licence to kill
W.H.O.-Ooh, killllllllllllll....
Yes. SARS1 was way, way deadlier than it's 'sequel' (which is about 80% similar) SARS2. On orders of magnititude.
"In Taiwan the first case of SARS was...Mar.14,03;7 there were 78 cases...end of April...676 cases...end of May.6 The first death... Apr. 27, at which time the CFR was only 3.8%. ...mid-May the CFR rose... to about 45% and then stabilized at about 15% in June.
In Canada the first case of SARS was...Feb. 23...first 10 deaths were... Apr. 7...CFR was 38.5%; it fell to... 20% by the end of April... stabilized at about 17% in late June.
...Hong Kong CFR about 71% early in the outbreak but later fell to about 17%." Canadian medical Assoc: https://www.cmaj.ca/content/169/4/277.2
Compare to the Kung Flu MKII SARS2 - currently 327,198,129 cases, 5,555,298 deaths.
So a CFR of 1.7%. IOW a survival rate of at worst, 98.3%.
Now take out everyone with at least one serious comorbidity, misreported "cases", all the bizarre ones of people "dying of COVID" coming in with gunshot wounds or car crashes, crunch the numbers again to exclude >70yrs (CDC director video her saying 75% had comorbidities: https://omegacanada.win/p/141EnBvF8z/whoops-good-morning-america-edit/c/ )
and voila, it's a flu/respiratory like bug that only kills the elderly, very sick in large numbers, and leaves younger and healthy people alone.
So just like flu has been doing then for decades. It's a storm in an epidemiological tea cup.
The only thing "challenged" was Steve Kirch's commentary. Which you did.
I presented the article as Canadian content, due to it being from U of A, which you have not commented on that study, just Steve's comments.
I even put a disclaimer in it about the paper being A. A preprint, and B. saying "alledgedly".
Its a forum where one posts Canadian angled content about current events.
"There are some .win community members who sound like they could get vaccinated but choose not to."
Oh? Whom?
"Unvaccinated people are over-represented in the hospitals and ICUs"
This board can argue back all day wether it is or isnt. If it is,
So what? It's already been shown on other posts and from Ontario numbers alone that the hospitals are hardly "stretched" Bed wise.
About as scientific as you observing Scot Gov doesn't believe in it's own math.
Did you just assume they's gender? REEEEEEEEE
"... loosely woven cloth products provide the least protection and layered finely woven products offer more. Well-fitting disposable surgical masks and KN95s...are more protective than all cloth masks, and well-fitting respirators, including N95s, offer the highest level of protection.
...wear the most protective mask you can that fits well and that you will wear consistently.”
Ok. "layered finely woven products offer more". How much more? In what way? "disposable surgical masks and Kn95's...respirators offer the highest"
How much higher? I'm going to try and find some mask studies. Must be some out there.
As for the CDC saying: “wear the most protective mask you can that fits well and that you will wear consistently.”
No.
In fact, when I have to use one, I make sure it fits very poorly. I either use a mossy oak perforated hunting gaiter (about 80% breathable) or a 90% breathable mesh one from https://www.oxyflowpro1.com/#/
I reccomend the double incognito mask, or, for ultra Branch Cult Covidian environments (airplanes, Karens around, your Covidiot Cultist Boss) I reccomend the triple incognito.
Not associated with them, I make no money out of it, just a satisfied customer passing on a good source of Canadian well made, 100% useless masks.
We can all chip in and buy Tuchodi one, Valentines day gift.
Wasn't promoting nothing. It's a study that made the news and relevant to MetaCanada because its from the U of AB. I posted the quotes directly from someone I could find that was in the high visibility public sphere that wanted to obviously comment, rather than just posting a dry link and not putting any publicly available comments.
No comment was made by me, or if you should, or shouldnt, or like or not like the quotes directly taken from steve. I didn't even say it was true or not. Thats for others to judge for yourself. As you did.
As for this:
"Note that they conveniently left out some information: "among citizens of 60 years or older. 89.821 occurred among the fully vaccinated (89.7%)" Since we already know Omicron spreads through both vaccinated and unvaccinated, and over 90% of the population over 60 the UK is fully vaccinated, most of the infections that occur in people "60 years or older" are going to occur in vaccinated people. Duh!"
So the message remains the same. Get vaccinated so you don't become one of the people in the hospital unnecessarily."
Yes, you keep saying that. "get vaccinated! Get vaccinated! Get vaccinated!". People have done. There is no "more" "get vaccinated!" to get.
- We are at 90% jabbed. How much higher do you posit the country should go?
- Should everyone get jabbed, if so, why?
You know what's way more effective than the jabs? Just going out and catching the rona. Either accidentally, or on purpose.
Natural immunity is a helluva (natural) drug. If you are unlucky enough to get the Indian sequel, just get some HCQ and Ivermectin from the doc.
Buddy of mine had it and he said it feels like a gorilla sitting on your chest. But, saying that, hes a bit fat.
Strange that this wasn't followed for SARS1, which had a CFR of about 10%, and hospitals all over Canada didn't fall apart or the country go into hysterics.
However if someone is terrified that a doc or nurse treating you (for an unreleated instake say) may have caught the rona that day from the checkout line at Walmart, despite it having an IFR at worst of 0.31% <70 - then you got bigger issues.
Maybe they do.
Table/chart 11.
Of "Cases" 11,399 vaccinated and 6,633 unvaccinated between 20th Nov-26th Nov.
In this dimension, a concept termed a "number" with 2 marks as "11" is considered a greater quantity than another with a funny round squiggle - "6".
Maybe they inhabit another dimension of reality where "11" is less than "6", or "11" means "splungefzarb", and "6" means "blarg" - however I don't speak the language of people who appear to come from a mirror universe where everything is reversed.
If you have a special space ship we could all pile into it and see this mirror dimension of "reading numbers opposite from what they say" world?
I actually did tell my parents I would consider it once all the trial data is in. And also theres the new pill.