Yah, I don't know how old you are but CTV, our health officials and our Government are not using science in any form in any of this.
For many, many decades we have been taught that the introduction of treatment produces the change required for notable stronger mutations.
ie. Overuse of penicillin will create mutations that resist penicillin.
ie. A person who recovers without the use of penicillin will not result in a notable mutation because nothing new is introduced to the virus to mutate from.
ie. The use of PREP to prevent HIV infection lists the risk of creating a mutation of HIV if HIV is contracted while using it.
ie. Those who use PREP are required to test for HIV regularly to ensure this mutation does not occur to limit the creation of an enhanced PREP resistant HIV. Those on PREP are immediately taken off PREP if they develope HIV to prevent this.
This has been repeated in all forms of treatment and Vaccination.
This is the core reason we only used treatment and Vaccination in the most vulnerable.
Otherwise we would (are at this very moment) create large scale mutations, especially resistant to treatment.
We currently have 8 Vaccines authorized for Emergency Use. These 8 highly overused Vaccines will create massive widescale Mutations, Worldwide.
You should be very concerned that decades of sound science have been thrown out the window this year and the "Pandemics" that will follow due to this grossly mishandled situation will result in what was Fearmongered all year for Covid-19.
I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated. Sorry for the awkward formatting - I can't seem to get the columns any straighter.
Since you appear genuine in your reply, I will take the time to reply, in depth. It is time consuming to replicate the method I watched on a YouTube video, long since deleted.
First, Below is a response related to your Polio reference.
Below is the JUST the Pfizer Trial Data.
The study began in April 29, 2020.
Primary Completion Date Nov 2, 2021
(3 Doses were administered with 6 months in between doses 2&3)
In the Green Section,
Please Select "Contacts and Locations"
Please Select "Show 162 study locations"
Will show you Vaccination was introduced in a select Group of the Public far before the dates you believed and several breakout locations of Variants are corespondent.
Additional breakout locations can be isolated by Mapping Moderna, AstraZeneca etc. with THEIR Trial Data.
Both "Study Details" and "Tabular" views near the Top of the page, will provide significant information on reactions.
Read this carefully and begin to Map your own conclusions. You will not be happy with what you find.
I will add more after you have time to absorb this first, IF you are interested.
"in 1996 .... wild poliovirus paralyzed an estimated 75,000 children on the continent each year. Now the continent has not reported a case of wild polio since August 2016, and the Independent Africa Regional Certification Commission says the World Health Organization's Africa region is free of wild polio."
The vaccination campaign "has prevented an estimated 1.8 million cases of paralysis in children and saved about 180,000 lives"
The article you cite doesn't provide a total but it indicates very few infections from the new virus. Are you concerned there won't be an improved vaccine for the new one?
YOUR claim that Vaccines were introduced AFTER the variants appeared, was proven false. The data clearly does show the US, a country that experienced one of the most massive outbreaks, despite doing nothing differently than other countries, had public trials across the US, during these high numbers.
Vaccines can be beneficial if used in the most vulnerable and not throughout the entire population.
I am not anti-vax.
I am anti-corporate healthcare designed to make money off providing Vaccination to millions of people who are perfectly healthy and not at risk at all.
I am also anti-Guinea pig. The Gates foundation has very serious problems that you appear more than eager to ignore. Pfizer has no better of a record.
and
Your basic math skills appear inhibited.
8 Vaccines introduced.
8 Variants appear.
WHY are you here. Your line of questioning and responses DO not match your presence here.
I'm confused. I haven't responded to your post about vaccine trials yet. I was talking about polio.
I'm still trying to get through the link you sent about vaccine trials. There's a lot of information and I haven't had enough free time to digest it yet.
So, concerning polio: Without the vaccine in Africa there would have been over a million infected / crippled kids and deaths in the 6 figures. It's true a small number of children have now been infected but is that a bad thing when the new strain will presumably be dealt with as well?
According to the link you supplied for a particular US Pfizer / BioNTech vaccine trial the study proposal was published on April 29, 2020, and the "History of Changes" section shows participants were being recruited until July 2020, and that's when the trial went from "Recruiting" to "Active".
So the variant was in the field 2 months before the trial participants received their first shots.
The Gates Foundation
Let's stick to the topic at hand: the lack so far of evidence of a causal relationship between the variants and the vaccines. We can talk about the Gates Foundation in another thread.
8 Vaccines introduced / 8 Variants appear.
The only evidence you've provided to back that statement up is for one variant, the Epsilon, and it appears to be incorrect.
WHY are you here.
To see if claims that the MSM is lying to me are supportable. It's OK to have a wide variety of opinions on a subject because it makes for a healthy discussion, but at some point facts have to be produced. Otherwise - as somebody said - "That which is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
1.) You never addressed my comments related to PREP and HIV.
The treatment can create super strains directly as a result of the TREATMENT.
2.) Significantly more effort was afforded to using Africa as Guinea pigs for improperly introduced vaccine experimentation than providing clean drinking water and food.
Polio, a highly infectious disease that spreads through contaminated water or food.
Africans hate The gates foundation with a passion for exploiting them for medical research and having extensive Vaccine damages. There is extensive evidence in both Africa and India of the Gates Foundation acting in bad faith with devastating consequences.
2.) Discrepancies
A molecular clock analysis timed the emergence of the precursor to the Epsilon variant to May of 2020 in California.
Your initial reference was of epsilon appearing in July, your current reference is to epsilon appearing in May. I have scanned multiple different "studies" with dates all over the place. I even corrected your date of Oct for Alpha, It was September as that appears to be the consensus... on average.
The only evidence you've provided to back that statement up is for one variant, the Epsilon, and it appears to be incorrect.
NO, it is YOU who were found incorrect. See response #3.
Do you not find these multitudes of discrepancies of dates by official sources to be highly disturbing?
3.) Pfizer Data
Well, no. The list of variants we're discussing only had one entry from the US: the Epsilon variant. It appeared in May 2020.
Well YES.
PHASE 3 Pfizer Clinical Trials began in July. "Early" Stage Trials began BEFORE.
What I find most disturbing is your ability to ignore mass discrepancies and cherry picking of data from a select STAGE.
Let's stick to the topic at hand: the lack so far of evidence of a causal relationship between the variants and the vaccines. We can talk about the Gates Foundation in another thread.
YOU will not direct my conversation in the direction that is most covient to YOUR conclusions.
4.) Vaccine Hesitancy researcher.
> WHY are you here.
To see if claims that the MSM is lying to me are supportable. It's OK to have a wide variety of opinions on a subject because it makes for a healthy discussion, but at some point facts have to be produced. Otherwise - as somebody said - "That which is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
YOU have not questioned or acknowledged ANY issues related to the Covid Vaccines, in which the actually are gene therapies, NOT Vaccines.
YOU ignore facts.
YOU cherry pick data, by stage.
YOU dismiss FACTS as they inconvenience YOUR conclusions.
YOU are an easily discernable Agent of Misdirection.
FURTHERMORE
Is it lost on you that we live in the information age and NOT one News Network or Media Network covered the progression of Covid Vaccination Trials, from the beginning? I would have expected a live Documentary to be presented in this era of the Reality Show.
However, News and Media were lightning fast on presenting a pre-assigned narrative, from the beginning. Of which, they failed to present an accurate account of origin OR progression. Of which they, have flip flopped on a regular basis, in response to noticed anomalies.
Grey's Anatomy and several other "shows", that are created and aired by the same Networks that present our "News", left no time in presenting a pre-dispositioned narrative of events and conclusions, with NO factual data to represent those views clearly defined.
In many cases BOTH News and Media afforded an inaccurate set of criteria while at the same time stating "the science is ever changing" as an excuse.
This occurred while ZERO in depth coverage was offered of on the ground events at the same time, before and after, and continues to this day.
My toleration for incompetence and those who excuse it is gone.
ADDITIONALLY,
PLEASE view the Total Death rate of Canada over the last 20 years and that of 2020 and you will note NO SIGNIFICANT change to the TOTAL. Be sure to account for incremental increase due to the Boomer generation entering die off as that is the trend in play.
GO MANIPULATE somewhere else. YOU are a bad faith actor, here with a maligned purpose.
There's a lot of reading in the proposed Pfizer study but I haven't seen any results yet. It appears they won't be available until November, so I'm not sure what to make of it so far.
At this point, nothing you provide, even if it comes from the CTV/CBC Gospel itself, will ever change their freaky little minds.
I got in a fight with a family member on Friday over Vax adverse reactions when they demanded to know if we were vaxxed. My wife quoted CBC/CTV articles at the time to back it up. They had the nerve to ignore the links my wife sent during the vid call.
We won't be visiting that family member when we go to NB this week.
The way I approach it is I tell the person that on a global perspective, I believe it's essential people get vaccinated. Weak, vulnerable, old people need the protection from covid more than the vaccine's side effects. But there is also an individual component, where I factor in the risks of taking the vaccine, which might be little or hypothetical, but do hold weight in f my decision. Since I'm at low risk, young, healthy, I estimate that I have no reason to vaccinate, and that I respect their decision whatever it is.
I don't think getting angry and spouting out conspiracies is going to help your case. If someone tries to lecture you on anything further, just listen to them calmly, smile, nod and leave silences when they're done talking. It's usually enough to make the person realize they're being jerks. There's no point in being confrontational with your loved ones, preach and don't fight, that's the way you get your point across imo
It's the vaccinated people pressuring me more and more that's getting to be the problem, and people who I don't talk to much who bring it up because it's easy small talk. I've been fine saying "not yet" so far.
That's exactly what I've done too. I tell them I'll take it when I need it, which is not a lie. If I can't travel without adding it on top of the vaccine stack, I'll get it. I just won't rush into taking an experimental treatment for the fun of it.
Basically the variant furthest away from the Wuhan one is 99.7% genetically the same. There is NO WAY your immune system would not recognize it if you already caught covid.
And the 0.3% difference is entirely expected, and is caused when the virus replicates, eventually a "transcoding" error happens, where a piece of data does not get copied correctly.
The SARS strain from 17 years ago is still 80% the same as Covid 19. There was a test where they took blood from people who caught SARS back then, and isolated T-Cells, and introduced those T-Cells to Covid-19. Guess what? They lit up! The recognized the virus, and conversely, they took the blood from people who had caught Covid-19, isolated T-Cells and introduced them to the old SARS from 17 years ago. THEY ALSO LIT UP. So essentially, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU WHEN THEY FEAR MONGER ABOUT VARIANTS. THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING AND WE MUST FIND OUT WHY.
The other lie is around asymptomatic transmission. There was never agreement among scientists about this prior to covid. Think about it rationally, if the virus is replicating in your body such that you are shedding it from your breath, then that means the virus is attacking and destroying your cells. You WILL have symptoms from this, because your body will be forced to respond by raising your temperature, making you tired, inflammation, coughing etc. If you feel nothing, then you are not shedding any where close to the same amount, maybe 100 time less such that it is not significant. If you feel nothing, then its because your body destroyed it quickly or because its simply not at a high load in your system. Again, they are LYING to you.
It does not prevent infection or transmission. It only reduces symptoms. It only protects the person who received it. It's only objective is to lower hospitalization and death numbers.
Since I am generally healthy ( and people in my age category don't generally go to the hospital or die) I don't need it.
Stuff evolves randomly. Mutations don't survive long enough to thrive because the original variation just drowns out the mutation. Until there is some kind new environment that favors a mutation, those mutations don't thrive. Vaccinated people are like the increased concentration of antibiotic. It is the vaccinated who provide evolutionary pressure.
"Well if the whole world gets vaccinated there will be nowhere for it to thrive."
A) it's not possible to sterilize the world of any kind of pathogen.
B) did you forget that coronavirus came from bats?
No, you are not.
You are not the only one.
One "doctor" tells cnn... you lost me.
"Viruses that don't spread cannot mutate."
Seems pretty simple.
Yah, I don't know how old you are but CTV, our health officials and our Government are not using science in any form in any of this.
For many, many decades we have been taught that the introduction of treatment produces the change required for notable stronger mutations.
ie. Overuse of penicillin will create mutations that resist penicillin.
ie. A person who recovers without the use of penicillin will not result in a notable mutation because nothing new is introduced to the virus to mutate from.
ie. The use of PREP to prevent HIV infection lists the risk of creating a mutation of HIV if HIV is contracted while using it.
ie. Those who use PREP are required to test for HIV regularly to ensure this mutation does not occur to limit the creation of an enhanced PREP resistant HIV. Those on PREP are immediately taken off PREP if they develope HIV to prevent this.
This has been repeated in all forms of treatment and Vaccination.
This is the core reason we only used treatment and Vaccination in the most vulnerable.
Otherwise we would (are at this very moment) create large scale mutations, especially resistant to treatment.
We currently have 8 Vaccines authorized for Emergency Use. These 8 highly overused Vaccines will create massive widescale Mutations, Worldwide.
You should be very concerned that decades of sound science have been thrown out the window this year and the "Pandemics" that will follow due to this grossly mishandled situation will result in what was Fearmongered all year for Covid-19.
Buckle Up.
I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated. Sorry for the awkward formatting - I can't seem to get the columns any straighter.
Variant Discovered Location 1st vaccine
Zeta 2020 April Brazil 2021 January
Epsilon 2020 July California 2020 December
Alpha 2020 Oct. UK 2020 December
Delta 2020 Oct. India 2021 January
Eta 2020 Dec. UK, Nigeria 2021 March
Beta 2020 Dec. S.Africa 2021 February
Gamma 2021 Jan. Japan 2021 February
Theta 2021 Feb. Philippines 2021 March
Since you appear genuine in your reply, I will take the time to reply, in depth. It is time consuming to replicate the method I watched on a YouTube video, long since deleted.
First, Below is a response related to your Polio reference.
? This
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/nov/28/polio-outbreaks-in-four-african-countries-caused-by-mutation-of-strain-in-vaccine
Below is the JUST the Pfizer Trial Data. The study began in April 29, 2020. Primary Completion Date Nov 2, 2021 (3 Doses were administered with 6 months in between doses 2&3)
? This
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04368728#contacts
In the Green Section, Please Select "Contacts and Locations" Please Select "Show 162 study locations"
Will show you Vaccination was introduced in a select Group of the Public far before the dates you believed and several breakout locations of Variants are corespondent.
Additional breakout locations can be isolated by Mapping Moderna, AstraZeneca etc. with THEIR Trial Data.
Both "Study Details" and "Tabular" views near the Top of the page, will provide significant information on reactions.
Read this carefully and begin to Map your own conclusions. You will not be happy with what you find.
I will add more after you have time to absorb this first, IF you are interested.
Polio first.
"in 1996 .... wild poliovirus paralyzed an estimated 75,000 children on the continent each year. Now the continent has not reported a case of wild polio since August 2016, and the Independent Africa Regional Certification Commission says the World Health Organization's Africa region is free of wild polio."
The vaccination campaign "has prevented an estimated 1.8 million cases of paralysis in children and saved about 180,000 lives"
The article you cite doesn't provide a total but it indicates very few infections from the new virus. Are you concerned there won't be an improved vaccine for the new one?
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/08/25/905884740/africa-declares-wild-polio-is-wiped-out-yet-it-persists-in-vaccine-derived-cases
Now your NOT sounding very genuine.
YOUR claim that Vaccines were introduced AFTER the variants appeared, was proven false. The data clearly does show the US, a country that experienced one of the most massive outbreaks, despite doing nothing differently than other countries, had public trials across the US, during these high numbers.
Vaccines can be beneficial if used in the most vulnerable and not throughout the entire population.
I am not anti-vax.
I am anti-corporate healthcare designed to make money off providing Vaccination to millions of people who are perfectly healthy and not at risk at all.
I am also anti-Guinea pig. The Gates foundation has very serious problems that you appear more than eager to ignore. Pfizer has no better of a record.
and
Your basic math skills appear inhibited.
8 Vaccines introduced.
8 Variants appear.
WHY are you here. Your line of questioning and responses DO not match your presence here.
I'm confused. I haven't responded to your post about vaccine trials yet. I was talking about polio.
I'm still trying to get through the link you sent about vaccine trials. There's a lot of information and I haven't had enough free time to digest it yet.
So, concerning polio: Without the vaccine in Africa there would have been over a million infected / crippled kids and deaths in the 6 figures. It's true a small number of children have now been infected but is that a bad thing when the new strain will presumably be dealt with as well?
Vaccines and variants...
Well, no. The list of variants we're discussing only had one entry from the US: the Epsilon variant. It appeared in May 2020. (https://gvn.org/covid-19/epsilon-b-1-427-b-1-429/, https://newsroom.uw.edu/news/epsilon-variant-mutations-contribute-covid-immune-evasion).
According to the link you supplied for a particular US Pfizer / BioNTech vaccine trial the study proposal was published on April 29, 2020, and the "History of Changes" section shows participants were being recruited until July 2020, and that's when the trial went from "Recruiting" to "Active".
So the variant was in the field 2 months before the trial participants received their first shots.
Let's stick to the topic at hand: the lack so far of evidence of a causal relationship between the variants and the vaccines. We can talk about the Gates Foundation in another thread.
The only evidence you've provided to back that statement up is for one variant, the Epsilon, and it appears to be incorrect.
To see if claims that the MSM is lying to me are supportable. It's OK to have a wide variety of opinions on a subject because it makes for a healthy discussion, but at some point facts have to be produced. Otherwise - as somebody said - "That which is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
1.) You never addressed my comments related to PREP and HIV.
The treatment can create super strains directly as a result of the TREATMENT.
2.) Significantly more effort was afforded to using Africa as Guinea pigs for improperly introduced vaccine experimentation than providing clean drinking water and food.
Africans hate The gates foundation with a passion for exploiting them for medical research and having extensive Vaccine damages. There is extensive evidence in both Africa and India of the Gates Foundation acting in bad faith with devastating consequences.
2.) Discrepancies
Your initial reference was of epsilon appearing in July, your current reference is to epsilon appearing in May. I have scanned multiple different "studies" with dates all over the place. I even corrected your date of Oct for Alpha, It was September as that appears to be the consensus... on average.
NO, it is YOU who were found incorrect. See response #3.
Do you not find these multitudes of discrepancies of dates by official sources to be highly disturbing?
3.) Pfizer Data
Well YES.
PHASE 3 Pfizer Clinical Trials began in July. "Early" Stage Trials began BEFORE.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/health/pfizer-vaccine-coronavirus.amp.html
For Christ sake. HUMAN Trials were under way well before. "Early" Stage Trials began immediately in Moderna.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/16/first-human-trial-for-coronavirus-vaccine-begins-monday-in-the-us.html
What I find most disturbing is your ability to ignore mass discrepancies and cherry picking of data from a select STAGE.
YOU will not direct my conversation in the direction that is most covient to YOUR conclusions.
4.) Vaccine Hesitancy researcher.
> WHY are you here.
YOU have not questioned or acknowledged ANY issues related to the Covid Vaccines, in which the actually are gene therapies, NOT Vaccines.
YOU ignore facts.
YOU cherry pick data, by stage.
YOU dismiss FACTS as they inconvenience YOUR conclusions.
YOU are an easily discernable Agent of Misdirection.
FURTHERMORE
Is it lost on you that we live in the information age and NOT one News Network or Media Network covered the progression of Covid Vaccination Trials, from the beginning? I would have expected a live Documentary to be presented in this era of the Reality Show.
However, News and Media were lightning fast on presenting a pre-assigned narrative, from the beginning. Of which, they failed to present an accurate account of origin OR progression. Of which they, have flip flopped on a regular basis, in response to noticed anomalies.
Grey's Anatomy and several other "shows", that are created and aired by the same Networks that present our "News", left no time in presenting a pre-dispositioned narrative of events and conclusions, with NO factual data to represent those views clearly defined.
In many cases BOTH News and Media afforded an inaccurate set of criteria while at the same time stating "the science is ever changing" as an excuse.
This occurred while ZERO in depth coverage was offered of on the ground events at the same time, before and after, and continues to this day.
My toleration for incompetence and those who excuse it is gone.
ADDITIONALLY,
PLEASE view the Total Death rate of Canada over the last 20 years and that of 2020 and you will note NO SIGNIFICANT change to the TOTAL. Be sure to account for incremental increase due to the Boomer generation entering die off as that is the trend in play.
GO MANIPULATE somewhere else. YOU are a bad faith actor, here with a maligned purpose.
IN OTHER WORDS. FUCK OFF, YOU ARE A LIAR.
Vaccine Hesitancy researcher?
CTV had a storey that researchers would be used to obtain data on how to argue and overcome "anti-vaxxers" in order to reach even higher compliance.
The intention was to come to places like Omega (not named) and obtain responses to alleviate OUR misconceptions ?
There's a lot of reading in the proposed Pfizer study but I haven't seen any results yet. It appears they won't be available until November, so I'm not sure what to make of it so far.
Gene Therapy, all of the Covid "Vaxxes"
Imagine... it would be considered crimes against humanity if someone burnt down a CBC/CTV station these days.
Upside down.
I'll tell you when I discover the answer.
At this point, nothing you provide, even if it comes from the CTV/CBC Gospel itself, will ever change their freaky little minds.
I got in a fight with a family member on Friday over Vax adverse reactions when they demanded to know if we were vaxxed. My wife quoted CBC/CTV articles at the time to back it up. They had the nerve to ignore the links my wife sent during the vid call.
We won't be visiting that family member when we go to NB this week.
My next project involves a gathering point for info in a succinct way. An accessible repository.
Soon...
I still have a day job, covid freaks and other whack jobs to contend with on a daily basis at the same time ??
The way I approach it is I tell the person that on a global perspective, I believe it's essential people get vaccinated. Weak, vulnerable, old people need the protection from covid more than the vaccine's side effects. But there is also an individual component, where I factor in the risks of taking the vaccine, which might be little or hypothetical, but do hold weight in f my decision. Since I'm at low risk, young, healthy, I estimate that I have no reason to vaccinate, and that I respect their decision whatever it is.
I don't think getting angry and spouting out conspiracies is going to help your case. If someone tries to lecture you on anything further, just listen to them calmly, smile, nod and leave silences when they're done talking. It's usually enough to make the person realize they're being jerks. There's no point in being confrontational with your loved ones, preach and don't fight, that's the way you get your point across imo
That's exactly what I've done too. I tell them I'll take it when I need it, which is not a lie. If I can't travel without adding it on top of the vaccine stack, I'll get it. I just won't rush into taking an experimental treatment for the fun of it.
I recommend you listen to Michael Yeadon, who calmly and succinctly explains exactly that.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9avwnk71UDRQ/
Basically the variant furthest away from the Wuhan one is 99.7% genetically the same. There is NO WAY your immune system would not recognize it if you already caught covid.
And the 0.3% difference is entirely expected, and is caused when the virus replicates, eventually a "transcoding" error happens, where a piece of data does not get copied correctly.
The SARS strain from 17 years ago is still 80% the same as Covid 19. There was a test where they took blood from people who caught SARS back then, and isolated T-Cells, and introduced those T-Cells to Covid-19. Guess what? They lit up! The recognized the virus, and conversely, they took the blood from people who had caught Covid-19, isolated T-Cells and introduced them to the old SARS from 17 years ago. THEY ALSO LIT UP. So essentially, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU WHEN THEY FEAR MONGER ABOUT VARIANTS. THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING AND WE MUST FIND OUT WHY.
The other lie is around asymptomatic transmission. There was never agreement among scientists about this prior to covid. Think about it rationally, if the virus is replicating in your body such that you are shedding it from your breath, then that means the virus is attacking and destroying your cells. You WILL have symptoms from this, because your body will be forced to respond by raising your temperature, making you tired, inflammation, coughing etc. If you feel nothing, then you are not shedding any where close to the same amount, maybe 100 time less such that it is not significant. If you feel nothing, then its because your body destroyed it quickly or because its simply not at a high load in your system. Again, they are LYING to you.
My response:
It does not prevent infection or transmission. It only reduces symptoms. It only protects the person who received it. It's only objective is to lower hospitalization and death numbers.
Since I am generally healthy ( and people in my age category don't generally go to the hospital or die) I don't need it.
http://youtu.be/plVk4NVIUh8
Stuff evolves randomly. Mutations don't survive long enough to thrive because the original variation just drowns out the mutation. Until there is some kind new environment that favors a mutation, those mutations don't thrive. Vaccinated people are like the increased concentration of antibiotic. It is the vaccinated who provide evolutionary pressure.
"Well if the whole world gets vaccinated there will be nowhere for it to thrive."
A) it's not possible to sterilize the world of any kind of pathogen.
B) did you forget that coronavirus came from bats?