How is this "jab" supposed to "slow" or "prevent" other people from getting Covid-19 from you?
I generally understand that it may help reduce symptoms, but have no idea what else these injections will do to "slow" or "prevent" an jabbed individual from infecting another?
Assuming the jab you got is for the strain going around - does it prevent you from spreading it?
People are saying it does prevent the spread.
What exactly are they basing this on?
How plausible or probable is their explanation?
I want to understand this better from both sides - even if you disagree with the other side. I haven't been able to articulate this yet, and hearing a concise take on this would be useful.
I'm guessing this is all they have - if so - how strong is this argument is. Is there any compelling evidence in this particular study? I keep hearing that a vaxed person can still infect another - but if this is correct below, then it would be less likely - or maybe it's not related at all.. Thoughts?:
"Other study findings suggest that fully or partially vaccinated people who got COVID-19 might be less likely to spread the virus to others. For example, fully or partially vaccinated study participants had 40 percent less detectable virus in their nose (i.e., a lower viral load), and the virus was detected for six fewer days (i.e., viral shedding) compared to those who were unvaccinated when infected. In addition, people who were partially or fully vaccinated were 66 percent less likely to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 infection for more than one week compared to those who were unvaccinated. While these indicators are not a direct measure of a person’s ability to spread the virus, they have been correlated with reduced spread of other viruses, such as varicella and influenza." https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html
The only numbers that matter are the deaths. There has been 4404 deaths under the age of 70 in Canada (population 38 million) over almost two years. Its the flu. It's a pandemic because they say it is and cover it on the news 24/7.
Why did you choose 70 as a cut-off? So strange.
Because if you look at the graph you'll see that's when the number of deaths start to pile up, 22,996 in total. Again that's over almost two years within a population of 38 million. By comparison smoking kills roughly 45,000 per year in Canada.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
You have to also take into consideration that the average life expectancy in Canada is 81.9 years old when you look at that official Health Canada statistics graph. How can anyone be alarmed? The old and ready to die are dying. Additionally you must consider that most of these elderly people that have died were in long term nursing care homes because they are fragile and in poor health to begin with.
Where were all the infected and dying nurses, doctors, care aids etc before the vaccine? These healthcare workers were right in the thick of it dealing with infected patients daily before there was any vaccine....so why are they not all dying?
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Alberta and Saskatchewan have the lowest vaccination rates of the provinces, but they have the highest number of new cases currently.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102
Saskatchewan registered as many cases as Ontario today. And we have only a bit over 1 million people in the province while Ontario has over 14 million.
Multiple studies show vaccinated carry more virus than pure bloods.
It's all 🐂 💩.
Theres one: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733 (MSM thinks they deboonked it, but they didn't)
And there was another, but I can't find it. IIRC:
The more probable explanation however is the vax is causing ADE and the vaxxed's leukocytes are disabled.
Here's research that says viral loads falls significantly faster in vaxxed people.
But I mean there is so many more studies that show the same direction: here, here, here
But you know what doesn't stop a pandemic - doing nothing. And by nothing I mean putting faith in ineffective treatments, attending anti-vaxx / lockdown rallies, etc. These actions are pro-pandemic.
You want to "stop a pandemic"? Turn off the news. No one is dying from covid. It's BS. BC residents are more likely to die from drug overdoses. Alberta/Manitobans are more likely to die from suicide/alcohol. Ontarians are more likely to die from murder.
REEEEEEEEEE
So salty!
It's not deboonked because while it's not what they were looking at, when they tested the original variant the staff were not vaxxed, when they tested for delta they were. 251 fold increase is not consistent with other studies of Delta. Ergo vaxxed = more virus.
The first study you linked in the other direction: PCR CT were "similar" on both groups; not the same; ergo diagnosis bullshit games.
Second link shows no difference in viral load 1-11 days then insignificant difference afterwards: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7/figures/2 a one day CT difference is statistical noise.
Don't just accept the abstract, actually read it.
The third study concludes more virus = more sick. It isn't about vax.
The last one you linked "Studies that involved active follow-up of contacts and that used serologic testing have shown higher rates of household transmission than were observed in our study" in other words "when you don't rely just on PCR testing BS and actually diagnose covid, it shows higher transmission."
Here's another one:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
They found that:
More sick = more virus
Here's another one:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1.full
They found that:
Here's another one:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210924082828/https://www.humetrix.com/powerpoint-vaccine.html
They found that:
I guess the point about it lowering symptoms is what makes it less contagious…the thinking goes is that if you’re hacking and sneezing than you’re throwing more germs around.
Not that I necessarily agree with that but it’s the best explanation I’ve been able to get out of anyone
Yea, this is about right. That plus vaxxed folks have smaller viral loads => smaller transmission probability.
I say get the jab or don't do your research and make the decision what's best for you. I generally am annoyed by people who are sanctimonious cunts on either side of the argument, get off your soap box no one cares what you think.
Depends on the variant. The vaxxed are protected from the original but not as much with the new ones such as Delta. When the wrong variant shows up, the vaxxed are gonna shit their pants figuratively and literally. Antibody Dependent Enhancement.
Here's research that says viral loads falls significantly faster in vaxxed people.
But I mean there is so many more studies that show the same direction: here, here, here
But you know what doesn't stop a pandemic - doing nothing. And by nothing I mean putting faith in ineffective treatments, attending anti-vaxx / lockdown rallies, etc. These actions are pro-pandemic.