“I’m not 85 so it’s not a concern for me”

No law, yet, against infecting people who do happen to be vulnerable.

Should there be a law against infecting people who are “vulnerable”?

What law would you make if you were PM?

Jabs mandatory for every last man, woman child and youngest of babies?

How would one prove I’m a court of law whom the ‘infector’ was? Shall this cover just the current ‘Rona or however many “variants” ? 1 of 50 people in the coffee shop each day.

“Vulnerable” to what? The Rona? If a person is so terrified of succumbing to a bug with an IFR of 0.05%, then perhaps that person has bigger issues, such as extreme age, an autoimmune disorder, morbid obesity, etc.

One person is not responsible for another random persons health. We are not helpless babies. Knowingly giving someone HIV is one thing (hello legal in California!) locking thousands of folk down for a glorified influenza just in case a 55 year old clinically obese fat diabetic women walks past someone with a undefined sniffle without a mask on at a Denny’s is another.

Perhaps we should extend this law to other diseases? Or just Corona?

Sure. Here ya go.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

CDC IFR tables, it’s about half way down the page under a lot of text. They have changed it from a simple percentage to out of a million. Odd thing to do. Quick bit of maths and 500 people dying “from” the Rona is 500 out of 1m. That’s still 0.05% IFR, Survival rate of 99.95%.

To extrapolate this IFR to other countries is not illogical nor unreasonable. Indeed, the English Office Of National Statistics easily found data shows a national IFR statistically even less- 0.003%

The leaky vaccines, links below. well.. turns out since Pfizer/Moderna et al have now quietly changed their official effectiveness from earlier this year from much dinosaur media copious praise of a miraculous 95% stopping the coof in its tracks to: the current version is now the mouthful of humble pie of: ‘the jabs still work but just reduce severity of symptoms”, this now thing in pharmaceutical clinicians circles of a ‘leaky vaccine’ ‘

Here’s some bits from 2 things talking about how vaccines can become “leaky.”

https://www.futurity.org/viruses-leaky-vaccines-968692/ “When a vaccine works perfectly, as do the childhood vaccines for smallpox, polio, mumps, rubella, and measles, it prevents vaccinated individuals from being sickened by the disease, and it also prevents them from transmitting the virus to others,” says Andrew Read, a leader of the research team and professor of biology and entomology and biotechnology at Penn State.”

The long and short of it is since the Rona jabs don’t stop the bug cold the vast majority of the time, according to pathology 101, this can drive unnatural evolution of stronger bugs. Not unlike the virus /jab version of antibiotic resistance. Traditional real vaccines (not gene “therapies” like the Rona shot ) drive virus evolution the other way. Weaker.

Original paper talking about leaky vaccines here: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198 Appears to be some biology journal of imperial college London.

“Vaccines that… do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing evolution of hotter pathogens... This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could… allow hot strains to emerge and persist. …experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease”

“Which you get by surviving the virus, which takes us back to the flooded hospitals.”

You raised the point about getting the Rona naturally. If you are strong. Relatively healthy and relatively young (or even old and strong) then just taking ones chances and getting Corona by chance is still the best way to build natural immunity - by a factor of x27 or so from any jab that may be developed.

If you are positing that folk in hospitals are getting it naturally well maybe they are. This raises more questions however:

If Corona has an IFR of 0.05%, this means it kills rarely. Then what are they in hospital for? Plenty of Ilnesses are non fatal and may or may have unpleasant symptoms. True. There is some diseases that are usually non fatal but highly infectious and can leave you bedbound and is very inconvenient for the patient. mono, for Eg in children- that sometimes require isolation in a hospital.

So what are these “Rona” patients dying of then?

If they are not dying, then all is well.

If they are dying, then either they are dying of something else or the Rona all by itself, if the latter, the CDC and ONS is either incompetent, lying or perhaps both.

If they have had the double double pokey and get admitted to hospital “with” the Rona, then (according to Pfizer/Moderna et al) basically sorry you still got it, the symptoms will be way less you should be fine.

Okay fine. But why take 2 (3, now 4) jabs for a pathogen with an IFR of 0.03 to 0.05%?

That’s akin to taking a jab for influenza, Athletes foot Or the common cold. Why bother?

Perhaps the “variants”? Are more pathogenic? Now why would that be? Unnatural evolutionary drives of jabs that allow the virus or bacterium to not quite get stopped 100%. Leaky vaccines again.

This whole thing has more elephants in rooms being ignored than an understaffed zoo.