On Oct 5 2020 there were 168,960 cases. On Oct 5 2021 there were 1,657,262 - ten times as man
You fucking retard. That's total cases, ever. Of course there's going to have been more cases a year later if you're counting them all cumulatively. That's how basic addition works.
The metric that matters for how well the vaccine is preventing spread is how many new cases are appearing each day, and right now we're getting 3,735 new cases a day, whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 2,145 a day.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
And if in two months (December) the death rate will be considerable lower than in 2020, will you make a post that the vaccines are working? In December 2020 about 100 to 120 people every day died due to Covid and we had a vaccination rate of 0%.
But we know that you won't make that post. Kinda funny to see you make the same points as the anti-vaxx PPCtards you banned.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day
It's not and you know that. You can see how effective or ineffective the vaccine is if you compare the outcomes. How many people die while they are fully vaccinated vs. not vaccinated and compare that to the overall vaccination rate. Alberta for example publishes that data.
Now, what is your deal? How do you NOT see a problem here? A year into the vaccinations and we're doing no better than we were this time last year. We're doing worse in fact.
I will. And I want you to pin the post then with the statement that the vaccines are working.
Here you go. Feel free to do the math.
Where do I see in your graphs how many of the Covid deaths were vaccinated or not?
This Alberta?
We already had this conversation. Alberta is not counting everybody who is staying at home as Covid case. Ezra was pushing fake news.
How do you NOT see a problem here?
Because it doesn't show if vaccinated people are dying. Here is the table of Covid deaths with their vaccination status in Alberta from the last 120 days.
Where do I see in your graphs how many of the Covid deaths were vaccinated or not?
You know that 71% of the population are vaccinated in sample B, compared 0% in sample A.
If absolute infections and deaths are both higher in sample B, there's absolutely no way to conclude that B is an improvement over A. Stop trying to be contrarian. There's no way to spin this. We're doing worse after after the vaccinations than before. Absent some alternative explanation, that says something about the efficacy of the vaccinations.
You're right. I wasn't comparing the two snapshots correctly.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
Look at it this way then: we have 70% more cases per day of more transmissible and virulent versions of the virus, while only 60% more deaths.
You aren't one of these people who think the vaccines should be 100% effective against catching the virus, are you? It's a global pandemic after all. People are gonna die.
You fucking retard. That's total cases, ever. Of course there's going to have been more cases a year later if you're counting them all cumulatively. That's how basic addition works.
The metric that matters for how well the vaccine is preventing spread is how many new cases are appearing each day, and right now we're getting 3,735 new cases a day, whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 2,145 a day.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
https://media.omegacanada.win/post/h12ug31B.png
And if in two months (December) the death rate will be considerable lower than in 2020, will you make a post that the vaccines are working? In December 2020 about 100 to 120 people every day died due to Covid and we had a vaccination rate of 0%.
But we know that you won't make that post. Kinda funny to see you make the same points as the anti-vaxx PPCtards you banned.
It's not and you know that. You can see how effective or ineffective the vaccine is if you compare the outcomes. How many people die while they are fully vaccinated vs. not vaccinated and compare that to the overall vaccination rate. Alberta for example publishes that data.
https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes
Yes, I will. You can hold me to that. I'm not trying to push an anti-vax agenda. I've been prov-vax all along. I'm only making an observation here.
Here you go. Feel free to do the math.
This Alberta?
Now, what is your deal? How do you NOT see a problem here? A year into the vaccinations and we're doing no better than we were this time last year. We're doing worse in fact.
I will. And I want you to pin the post then with the statement that the vaccines are working.
Where do I see in your graphs how many of the Covid deaths were vaccinated or not?
We already had this conversation. Alberta is not counting everybody who is staying at home as Covid case. Ezra was pushing fake news.
Because it doesn't show if vaccinated people are dying. Here is the table of Covid deaths with their vaccination status in Alberta from the last 120 days.
https://imgur.com/gCfGuTg.png
The death rate per 100k of unvaccinated people is more than 10 to 50 times higher (depending on the age group) compared to vaccinated people.
You know that 71% of the population are vaccinated in sample B, compared 0% in sample A.
If absolute infections and deaths are both higher in sample B, there's absolutely no way to conclude that B is an improvement over A. Stop trying to be contrarian. There's no way to spin this. We're doing worse after after the vaccinations than before. Absent some alternative explanation, that says something about the efficacy of the vaccinations.
You're right. I wasn't comparing the two snapshots correctly.
Look at it this way then: we have 70% more cases per day of more transmissible and virulent versions of the virus, while only 60% more deaths.
You aren't one of these people who think the vaccines should be 100% effective against catching the virus, are you? It's a global pandemic after all. People are gonna die.