But it does reduce the number of people who have to go to the hospital, This means there's a better chance people with other medical problems can get treatment. So the mandate makes sense.
you can work without mmr vaccines
Measles, mumps, and rubella are not putting people in hospital in large numbers, so they aren't as much of a concern.
mmr vaccines proven to end a virus
These vaccines are only a little more effective than the major covid vaccines ("After two doses, 97% of people are protected against measles, 88% against mumps, and at least 97% against rubella" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine"
"But it does reduce the number of people who have to go to the hospital, This means there's a better chance people with other medical problems can get treatment. So the mandate makes sense."
Statistically the vast majority of hospitalizations are in people over 60 years old.
The net risk reduction in people under that age is negligible seeing as though less than 1000 people have died of covid related illnesses under the age of 50 in two years.
The hospitalization rate is less than 1% of cases and the ICU rate much lower and mainly concentrated in the 70 plus age group.
It's also likely that the vaccines aren't thr main driver behind the reduction of hospitalizations it may very well be the fact the virus has mutated into a less lethal version of itself or it has already taken the lives of the most vulnerable.
We are also in the third wave so prior infection could also be a main reason for the reduction.
"The reason the diseases are under control is because the vaccination rate is about 90%"
False, the coronavirus is a family of viruses mainly causing the common cold. There is no scientific way to absolutely eliminate Sars cov 2, it doesn't matter if 100% are vaccinated it will circulate in some form perpetually.
MMR vaccines provide superior protection, the family of viruses they protect against do not mutate as rapidly and are not leaky vaccines. The efficacy of the mrna vaccines is likely on par with the flu shot and declining.
Statistically the vast majority of hospitalizations are in people over 60 years old.
Not sure what your point is. The vaccines are still keeping people out of the hospital, otherwise the unvaccinated wouldn't be so over-represented there. Nobody is denying that older people are more seriously affected, so why are you bringing it up?
It's also likely that the vaccines aren't thr main driver behind the reduction of hospitalizations
Again, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Whatever the hospitalizations these days, high or low, in Ontario two-thirds to three-quarters of the people in the hospital beds are coming from the less than one-fifth of the population that is not fully vaccinated.
the virus has mutated into a less lethal version of itself
Really? I think you're speculating. Got any support for your statement?
"The reason the diseases are under control is because the vaccination rate is about 90%"
False, the coronavirus is a family of viruses mainly causing the common cold.
The 90% figure applies to the MMR vaccination rate. It's a reply to your comment about the MMR vaccine. Linking that statement to coronaviruses makes no sense.
MMR vaccines provide superior protection,
As I said: only slightly. The reason we don't see more disease from the viruses they guard against is because the vaccination rate for them is 90%. See the link I provided earlier.
The efficacy of the mrna vaccines is likely on par with the flu shot
They're not 80% the vaccines were created for the initial strain which is now obsolete. Losing efficacy with each subsequent strain.
As for the hospitalization portion the numbers are skewed as a covid hospitalization can be for anything. For example if you show up with complications related to dementia but test positive for covid it's a covid hospitalization.
As for the government stats they track since December 2020 when no one was actually fully vaccinated, the numbers are rigged.
Think about what you just said and ask yourself what difference it makes. Answer: none. Two thirds to three quarters of the people in the hospitals test positive for covid, and they come from one fifth of the population.
As for the government stats they track since December 2020
I'll give you the link again so you can look at it this time. The numbers are for the people in some hospitals in Ontario on October 20, 2021 at 7:33 a.m. (EST). They have nothing to do with the past. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
If you answer with more unrelated arguments and unsupported opinions you will have the last word.
But it does reduce the number of people who have to go to the hospital, This means there's a better chance people with other medical problems can get treatment. So the mandate makes sense.
Measles, mumps, and rubella are not putting people in hospital in large numbers, so they aren't as much of a concern.
These vaccines are only a little more effective than the major covid vaccines ("After two doses, 97% of people are protected against measles, 88% against mumps, and at least 97% against rubella" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine"
The reason the diseases are under control is because the vaccination rate is about 90% - https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/publications/vaccines-immunization/vaccine-uptake-canadian-children-preliminary-results-2017-childhood-national-immunization-coverage-survey.html
"But it does reduce the number of people who have to go to the hospital, This means there's a better chance people with other medical problems can get treatment. So the mandate makes sense."
Statistically the vast majority of hospitalizations are in people over 60 years old.
The net risk reduction in people under that age is negligible seeing as though less than 1000 people have died of covid related illnesses under the age of 50 in two years.
The hospitalization rate is less than 1% of cases and the ICU rate much lower and mainly concentrated in the 70 plus age group.
It's also likely that the vaccines aren't thr main driver behind the reduction of hospitalizations it may very well be the fact the virus has mutated into a less lethal version of itself or it has already taken the lives of the most vulnerable.
We are also in the third wave so prior infection could also be a main reason for the reduction.
"The reason the diseases are under control is because the vaccination rate is about 90%"
False, the coronavirus is a family of viruses mainly causing the common cold. There is no scientific way to absolutely eliminate Sars cov 2, it doesn't matter if 100% are vaccinated it will circulate in some form perpetually.
MMR vaccines provide superior protection, the family of viruses they protect against do not mutate as rapidly and are not leaky vaccines. The efficacy of the mrna vaccines is likely on par with the flu shot and declining.
Not sure what your point is. The vaccines are still keeping people out of the hospital, otherwise the unvaccinated wouldn't be so over-represented there. Nobody is denying that older people are more seriously affected, so why are you bringing it up?
Again, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Whatever the hospitalizations these days, high or low, in Ontario two-thirds to three-quarters of the people in the hospital beds are coming from the less than one-fifth of the population that is not fully vaccinated.
Really? I think you're speculating. Got any support for your statement?
The 90% figure applies to the MMR vaccination rate. It's a reply to your comment about the MMR vaccine. Linking that statement to coronaviruses makes no sense.
As I said: only slightly. The reason we don't see more disease from the viruses they guard against is because the vaccination rate for them is 90%. See the link I provided earlier.
The effectiveness of the flu vaccine is about 40% https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/effectiveness-studies.htm. The effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines is about 80%. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e3.htm
You really need to find some support for your ideas before you post them.
They're not 80% the vaccines were created for the initial strain which is now obsolete. Losing efficacy with each subsequent strain.
As for the hospitalization portion the numbers are skewed as a covid hospitalization can be for anything. For example if you show up with complications related to dementia but test positive for covid it's a covid hospitalization.
As for the government stats they track since December 2020 when no one was actually fully vaccinated, the numbers are rigged.
They are. They were originally over 90% and have slipped to 80% for the reasons you gave. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison
Think about what you just said and ask yourself what difference it makes. Answer: none. Two thirds to three quarters of the people in the hospitals test positive for covid, and they come from one fifth of the population.
I'll give you the link again so you can look at it this time. The numbers are for the people in some hospitals in Ontario on October 20, 2021 at 7:33 a.m. (EST). They have nothing to do with the past. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
If you answer with more unrelated arguments and unsupported opinions you will have the last word.