Anyone who has been paying attention knows that vaccinated people can become infected, can infect other people, can get sick, and can die. They also know that vaccinated people - overall - do not get sick as often as unvaccinated people, infect other people at a lower rate, do not get as severely sick, and die at a lower rate. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html
The Lancet article referenced is concerned with the public health officials and policy makers who apparently don't know that.
It says:
"Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures."
Because it’s all based in lies bud. And you come here making excuses for these people time and again.
The jab is poison. The data is overwhelming that the jab is a rushed work of garbage. Full of garbage and peddled by murderers.
Keep ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room at your own peril.
80 still births in an Ontario hospital in 6 months when the average is usually about 1per month. And then just recently in British Columbia there were 13 still births in a 72 hour period. No nothing to see here. The news would have told us right?
Get your head out of the sand.
Do you acknowledge deaths are associated with the vaccines? The discovery of what causes the clotting? That covid isn’t dangerous for small children? Do you acknowledge the studies showing the efficacy of natural immunity? If so why are we forcing them to be vaccinated?
What is the likelihood that there will be more discoveries about the effects of the vaccine? Negative long term effects? Are the chances 0%?
If the vaccine caused more life years to be lost than gained among the small children are you comfortable with mandating it on that cohort?
Are you comfortable with people dying unnecessarily when the vaccine could have made their covid manageable? Misguided people are dying in droves, much more than the possibility of harm from the vax.
Since you refuse to acknowledge my questions, I'll answer with this.
19 children in Canada have died WITH Covid, it appears they all had serious co-morbidities.
2,000 people under 60 have died WITH Covid in Canada so far in total.
The average age of death WITH Covid is virtually same as life expectancy, WHICH MEANS COVID DID NOT DROP THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY.
The narrative that people are dying "in droves" is a statistical falsehood (to be polite).
Cowards are so afraid of dying now that they'd salt the earth for future generations for the possibility of a few extra breaths.
"but the medical system is overrun" - why do we have 1/4 - 1/2 of the ICU beds in comparison to the other G7 countries?
"trust the science" -the science says people with natural immunity are more protected than the vaccinated, why are they being forced to take the vaccine?
We know the vaccines cause heart damage in some people, especially children. Any ethical person knows a child's life is worth vastly more than an elderly persons life.
The UK vaccine advisory board (Scientist) recently advised AGAINST vaccinating healthy children out of concern for the rare side effect.
I know you won't digest any of this information, challenge it, or address it because you're too afraid of the possibility that you're wrong. Instead you'll say something about not being qualified to analyze data, or use some other logical fallacy to sidestep these direct points.
Without references to back up anything you say there's not much point in paying attention to you, is there? I believe Hitchen's Razor goes something like this:
"That which is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Pretty busy these days, so I have to cut back on engaging over Internet opinions. If you've got some links to documents that support your claims I'd be happy to read them.
Ah the “anonymous so can’t be trusted” fallback position. You must find it baffling why whistleblowers are permitted to be anonymous, with claims taken seriously.
I thought you said you were paying attention so I assumed, you were aware of these commonly known facts. What were you saying about Hichen again?
Here we see no risk in children from Covid, and risk from vaccine. We see people with natural immunity have a strong response. Now why are we forcing the vaccine on these groups?
19 children died WITH covid, 2,000 people under 60 died WITH covid so far, and average age of death WITH covid virtually same as life expectancy.
WHO indicates vaccine reduce spread by only 40%, not sure why people who’ve been vaccinated would be immune from testing, or the logic in vaccine passports given the ineffectiveness in preventing ongoing transmission.
In Canada our NACI recommends a 10 microgram dose in 5-11 cohort and 30 microgram dose in 12-18 cohort. So a 120lb 11 year old would get 1/3 of the dose of a 80lb 12 year old. TrUsT tHe sCiEnCe.
Where'd this vaccine shill come from? Are you paid by the government to rummage the depths of social media to get the last holdouts vaccinated?
Anyone who has been paying attention knows that vaccinated people can become infected, can infect other people, can get sick, and can die. They also know that vaccinated people - overall - do not get sick as often as unvaccinated people, infect other people at a lower rate, do not get as severely sick, and die at a lower rate. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html
The Lancet article referenced is concerned with the public health officials and policy makers who apparently don't know that.
It says:
"Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures."
Because it’s all based in lies bud. And you come here making excuses for these people time and again. The jab is poison. The data is overwhelming that the jab is a rushed work of garbage. Full of garbage and peddled by murderers.
No need to provide any citations though, of course. We'll just take your word for it
Keep ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room at your own peril.
80 still births in an Ontario hospital in 6 months when the average is usually about 1per month. And then just recently in British Columbia there were 13 still births in a 72 hour period. No nothing to see here. The news would have told us right?
Get your head out of the sand.
I'm assuming that you're making this stuff up on the fly, since you aren't providing any links to back up your claims.
You're entitled to your opinion of course.
Without any links to any evidence to support your statements you're just another anonymous person making unsubstantiated claims on the Internet.
One of billions.
Do you acknowledge deaths are associated with the vaccines? The discovery of what causes the clotting? That covid isn’t dangerous for small children? Do you acknowledge the studies showing the efficacy of natural immunity? If so why are we forcing them to be vaccinated?
What is the likelihood that there will be more discoveries about the effects of the vaccine? Negative long term effects? Are the chances 0%?
If the vaccine caused more life years to be lost than gained among the small children are you comfortable with mandating it on that cohort?
Hi there anonymous Internet stranger. Show me the documents.
Are you comfortable with people dying unnecessarily when the vaccine could have made their covid manageable? Misguided people are dying in droves, much more than the possibility of harm from the vax.
Since you refuse to acknowledge my questions, I'll answer with this.
19 children in Canada have died WITH Covid, it appears they all had serious co-morbidities.
2,000 people under 60 have died WITH Covid in Canada so far in total.
The average age of death WITH Covid is virtually same as life expectancy, WHICH MEANS COVID DID NOT DROP THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY.
The narrative that people are dying "in droves" is a statistical falsehood (to be polite).
Cowards are so afraid of dying now that they'd salt the earth for future generations for the possibility of a few extra breaths.
"but the medical system is overrun" - why do we have 1/4 - 1/2 of the ICU beds in comparison to the other G7 countries?
"trust the science" -the science says people with natural immunity are more protected than the vaccinated, why are they being forced to take the vaccine?
We know the vaccines cause heart damage in some people, especially children. Any ethical person knows a child's life is worth vastly more than an elderly persons life.
The UK vaccine advisory board (Scientist) recently advised AGAINST vaccinating healthy children out of concern for the rare side effect.
I know you won't digest any of this information, challenge it, or address it because you're too afraid of the possibility that you're wrong. Instead you'll say something about not being qualified to analyze data, or use some other logical fallacy to sidestep these direct points.
Without references to back up anything you say there's not much point in paying attention to you, is there? I believe Hitchen's Razor goes something like this:
"That which is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
I’ll wait for you to answer my questions before I answer yours this time.
Pretty busy these days, so I have to cut back on engaging over Internet opinions. If you've got some links to documents that support your claims I'd be happy to read them.
Ah the “anonymous so can’t be trusted” fallback position. You must find it baffling why whistleblowers are permitted to be anonymous, with claims taken seriously.
I thought you said you were paying attention so I assumed, you were aware of these commonly known facts. What were you saying about Hichen again?
Here we see no risk in children from Covid, and risk from vaccine. We see people with natural immunity have a strong response. Now why are we forcing the vaccine on these groups?
19 children died WITH covid, 2,000 people under 60 died WITH covid so far, and average age of death WITH covid virtually same as life expectancy.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html UK vaccine advisory board Scientists not backing Covid jabs for healthy 12 to 15-year-olds due to myocarditis risk, and lack of covid risk.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/health-58438669.amp
Canada has 1.95 acute care hospital beds per 1,000 people, fewer than any other OECD country but Mexico.
https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/march-2020/coronavirus-is-about-to-reveal-how-fragile-our-health-system-is/
Pfizers own data released by order of court in US showing thousands of serious tens of thousands of “serious” AE’s including over 1,200 deaths.
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf CDC indicating strong natural immunity- “The immunity provided by vaccine and prior infection are both high but not complete (i.e., not 100%).” https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html
Mechanism behind clotting in AZ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/canada/adenovirus-in-astrazeneca-vaccine-behind-trigger-for-extremely-rare-blood-clots-scientists/wcm/b1d1e0df-8989-41b0-a029-875585bfb5ec/amp/
WHO indicates vaccine reduce spread by only 40%, not sure why people who’ve been vaccinated would be immune from testing, or the logic in vaccine passports given the ineffectiveness in preventing ongoing transmission.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211124-vaccines-reduce-covid-transmission-by-40-who
In Canada our NACI recommends a 10 microgram dose in 5-11 cohort and 30 microgram dose in 12-18 cohort. So a 120lb 11 year old would get 1/3 of the dose of a 80lb 12 year old. TrUsT tHe sCiEnCe.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/immunization/national-advisory-committee-on-immunization-naci/recommendations-use-covid-19-vaccines/pfizer-biontech-10-mcg-children-5-11-years-age.html