First, you have to survive covid to get it. And then you should get vaccinated.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
I can't tell if we're sticking to the thread or wandering off into the weeds. Are you one of those "I'm in good health so I don't need a vaccine" people? Would you have unprotected sex with someone with an STI.
In other words: you wouldn't, because you don't have immunity from the STIs - like you don't have immunity from covid - and your glowing good health is no defense.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
For clarity I’m not one of those people, I’m actually vaccinated (no I’m not going to prove it, no I don’t care if you believe me), but I’m against discrimination, I’m against taking away people’s rights.
I don’t agree with your political opinion that coercion related to a vaccine with a far lower than 1% IFR, primarily targeting people who are already very sick, is legal or ethical.
It should be personal choice.
I’m mostly interested right now in pointing out the political nature of unscientifically pretending natural immmunity isn’t real, that you’re spreading that misinformation, and shouldn’t be a factor in these evil nazi style health passes.
It's real, but you have to survive covid to get it - and millions have not. Plus it isn't as good as getting vaccinated after you've recovered. By doing that you lessen the load on the healthcare system.
It's only superior for people who have no access to vaccines. Better protection is obtained by getting vaccinated after fully recovering from the infection.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
I see where he’s coming from, but still a bad analogy.
Nobody has ever had a condom injury… nobody has ever had a condom death… a condom has never given people blood clots… a condom has never given people heart inflammation…
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html"
It also has this subheading: "Vaccination still the safest way to protect yourself against COVID-19"
So getting vaccinated after recovering from the infection is the best way to increase your chances of keeping out of the hospital and lowering the burden on the healthcare system so other people have a better chance of getting the care they need for their "normal" problems.
Lol. Imgur.
Perhaps another site would suit you better...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=thom+hartmann+%22stupid+conversation%22&t=h_&ia=web
Continuing to perpetuate the unscientific political position that natural immunity isn’t superior to the vaccine.
We don’t trust your politicians who veil themselves in the cloak of science.
Is natural immunity science or not?
If it is how do you justify this comparison and these unethical measures against that group??
First, you have to survive covid to get it. And then you should get vaccinated.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
and
"Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM73434&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2071%2C%20January%2019%2C%202022&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM73434
“ persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.”
Is that how condoms work?
Wow that’s a low iq analogy
I can't tell if we're sticking to the thread or wandering off into the weeds. Are you one of those "I'm in good health so I don't need a vaccine" people? Would you have unprotected sex with someone with an STI.
If I had an immunity from the STI that was superior to the protection from a condom, then yes I would.
In other words: you wouldn't, because you don't have immunity from the STIs - like you don't have immunity from covid - and your glowing good health is no defense.
There you go making shit up again and spouting off your opinions.
I’ll stick with the science.
You can stick with your politics of promoting people with superior immunity being barred from society.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
For clarity I’m not one of those people, I’m actually vaccinated (no I’m not going to prove it, no I don’t care if you believe me), but I’m against discrimination, I’m against taking away people’s rights.
I don’t agree with your political opinion that coercion related to a vaccine with a far lower than 1% IFR, primarily targeting people who are already very sick, is legal or ethical.
It should be personal choice.
I’m mostly interested right now in pointing out the political nature of unscientifically pretending natural immmunity isn’t real, that you’re spreading that misinformation, and shouldn’t be a factor in these evil nazi style health passes.
It's real, but you have to survive covid to get it - and millions have not. Plus it isn't as good as getting vaccinated after you've recovered. By doing that you lessen the load on the healthcare system.
Then why are these people with this superior protection to those who are just vaccinated barred from society in Canada
It's only superior for people who have no access to vaccines. Better protection is obtained by getting vaccinated after fully recovering from the infection.
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
it's not a vaccine. you are spreading lies by calling it a vaccine. it's poison
You're entitled to your opinion. but you shouldn't be getting it from social media.
I do my own research. Unlike you, who parrots satanists.
I see where he’s coming from, but still a bad analogy.
Nobody has ever had a condom injury… nobody has ever had a condom death… a condom has never given people blood clots… a condom has never given people heart inflammation…
But people have had latex reactions with about the same frequency as vaccination reactions.
Yes, of course, a condom reaction is equivalent to vaccine deaths, heart inflammation, blood clots…
Looks like vaccine deaths are about as rare as latex deaths.
"In rare cases, anaphylaxis to latex can cause death." https://www.aafa.org/latex-allergy/
"a hypersensitive immune response in the latex-responsive population and may lead to death if severe" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC5356959/
Anti-condom nutjob
Having a difficult time with analogies, are we?
More frequent than the risk of death from covid among 5-9 age group.
“We find that age-specific IFRs estimated by the ensemble model range from 0.001% (95% credible interval, 0–0.001)”
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0
Part of the reason pushing vax on this age group is a crime against humanity.
"Published: 02 November 2020"
Before the vaccines were even available, so I guess they didn't have anything to say about them. Got anything more recent?
I posted an article from 3 days ago that says natural immunity is superior to vax immunity.
You still want those people locked in their homes against the science
Was that the link that didn't contain your quote?
"Emerging evidence shows that getting a COVID-19 vaccine after you recover from COVID-19 infection provides added protection to your immune system. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html"
“People who survived a previous infection had lower rates of COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated alone.”
Your political position is that those with superior protection to yours be denied going placed you’re allowed to go because a politician said so.
Thats not science that’s politics
This one has that quote. Here is the headline:
"Vaccination plus infection offered most protection during Delta surge, U.S. study shows" https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/vaccination-infection-delta-study-1.6320650
It also has this subheading: "Vaccination still the safest way to protect yourself against COVID-19"
So getting vaccinated after recovering from the infection is the best way to increase your chances of keeping out of the hospital and lowering the burden on the healthcare system so other people have a better chance of getting the care they need for their "normal" problems.
You could search the quote in google and see it’s real, not sure why it doesn’t show up for you but it does for me
But you can't quite put the quote and the link together in the same post, apparently.
hundreds of thousands of people have dies from the poison you call vaccine. You're a horrible human being for spreading these lies.
Prove that.
Take your own advince