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ChazzleDazzle 3 points ago +3 / -0

You know about 10% of adults and 20-30% of children catch the flu, translating to around 3 million flu cases a year or more

https://www.toronto.ca/community-people/health-wellness-care/diseases-medications-vaccines/influenza-flu-fact-sheet/

If covid spreads more easily let's multiply that by 2x for 6 million cases

28k/6 million = .46% exclude the dementia patient deaths and its so small you'll get an error on the calculator

GTFO with your bullshit

Your analysis implies that covid in 2 years spreads at a lower rate than influenza

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hopefully due to oil and gas the loonies goes above the USD again and I can start collecting US dollars for the inevitable reversion to the mean.

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ChazzleDazzle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Politics today seems to be more about photo ops and soundbites than actually governing now.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was at the corner store and some kids were in front of me probably 10 or 11 talking about lesbians and other crap like that. It was pretty disgusting.

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ChazzleDazzle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol yeah I remember that. You're right he'd be like a far right nazi today with his platform.

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ChazzleDazzle 6 points ago +6 / -0

Chretien was the last liberal I liked. He has warts and all but their corruption was child's play compared to Turdeau.

I remember when they asked him about the natives on TV a few years ago, Chretien was like well sometimes dey need to get off da reserve...they whisked him away never to be seen again shortly after.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

The number of COVID-19 attributed deaths do not account for all excess mortality during this period; therefore, other factors such as delays in seeking and accessing treatment and worsening of the overdose crisis have also likely contributed to the excess mortality.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

"There was little variation in weekly deaths between 2020 and the prior five years for individuals younger than 65 years of age. Similar patterns were observed for women and men"

Did you miss this part retard? Variations, as in the increase is not statistically significant.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

You missed the part about dementia being the main comorbidity. Yes let's give psychological trauma to children so a 90 year old can drool into a cup for an extra year.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol mainly due to the restrictions and opioid deaths.

Jeez shut down the entire nation because an extra 6k died......akin to a bad flu season.

FFS you're a moron, the pandemic of the century = 6k extra deaths from the actual pandemic restrictions and not the pandemic.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

One of many articles

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1

Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0730-mmwr-covid-19.html

Same or similar viral loads

There was little variation in weekly deaths between 2020 and the prior five years for individuals younger than 65 years of age. Similar patterns were observed for women and men

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/epidemiological-economic-research-data/excess-mortality-impacts-age-comorbidity.html

Go away pharma shill

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

60-69 they were likely 65+

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man I can post an article where they say it's the same viral load. Cut the bullshit you shill. There's so much out there kids don't spread it to parents blah blah blah. The stats say otherwise no excess deaths under 65. And all the government stats about vaccinated vs unvaccinated start from December 2020 when no one was actually vaccinated the drive didn't get started till April. Remember the one dose summer bullshit?

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hospitalized 86,410

Excluding anyone under 70

Approx. 33000 hospitalizations Approx. 1.35 million counted cases

Hospitalization rate = 2.4%

Factoring in the number of unreported cases would get you close to that figure.

You can peruse yourself

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

As for ICU admissions

Under 60 is .05%

Now we can say severe covid is an ICU admission, hospitalizations are unreliable.

Logically you can say with evidence perhaps the vaccine assists those over 60, you could argue the net benefit begins at 50.

Mandatory policies for anyone under that age is criminal.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Older age has been a major contributor to excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic not just in Canada.Footnote4Footnote5 Figure 2 compares the weekly death counts in Canada in 2020 to the average weekly death counts from 2015 to 2019 for people less than 65 years of age and those 65 and older. In 2020, there was a noticeable increase in the number of deaths occurring in Canadians aged 65 years and older compared to the average number of deaths in the five years prior to the pandemic, especially between mid-March and mid-May and toward the end of the year. There was little variation in weekly deaths between 2020 and the prior five years for individuals younger than 65 years of age.

There you have it no change in excess mortality under 65.

In essence there was no pandemic under 65. Vaccinate over 65 leave the rest alone.

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

My God man, 99% of people who catch covid don't need a hospital vaccinated or not. The vaccine is useless and anyone who trusts pfizers own internal study is a moron.

The fact they say it's 90% effective, effective at what 90% of that 1% that need hospitalization?

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ChazzleDazzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

The efficacy is not 80% its according to this study 53%

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/04/pfizer-covid-vaccine-protection-against-infection-tumbles-to-47percent-study-confirms.html

The hospital figures in Ontario include anyone who tests positive for covid regardless if the main reason for hospitalization is actually covid.

The average age of death from covid is greater than the life expectancy. It's definitely not anyone under 50 clogging up the ICUs. In fact we have less than 1k deaths under 50 in two years and total deaths/hospitalizations skew mainly 70+

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ChazzleDazzle 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're not 80% the vaccines were created for the initial strain which is now obsolete. Losing efficacy with each subsequent strain.

As for the hospitalization portion the numbers are skewed as a covid hospitalization can be for anything. For example if you show up with complications related to dementia but test positive for covid it's a covid hospitalization.

As for the government stats they track since December 2020 when no one was actually fully vaccinated, the numbers are rigged.

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ChazzleDazzle 2 points ago +2 / -0

"But it does reduce the number of people who have to go to the hospital, This means there's a better chance people with other medical problems can get treatment. So the mandate makes sense."

Statistically the vast majority of hospitalizations are in people over 60 years old.

The net risk reduction in people under that age is negligible seeing as though less than 1000 people have died of covid related illnesses under the age of 50 in two years.

The hospitalization rate is less than 1% of cases and the ICU rate much lower and mainly concentrated in the 70 plus age group.

It's also likely that the vaccines aren't thr main driver behind the reduction of hospitalizations it may very well be the fact the virus has mutated into a less lethal version of itself or it has already taken the lives of the most vulnerable.

We are also in the third wave so prior infection could also be a main reason for the reduction.

"The reason the diseases are under control is because the vaccination rate is about 90%"

False, the coronavirus is a family of viruses mainly causing the common cold. There is no scientific way to absolutely eliminate Sars cov 2, it doesn't matter if 100% are vaccinated it will circulate in some form perpetually.

MMR vaccines provide superior protection, the family of viruses they protect against do not mutate as rapidly and are not leaky vaccines. The efficacy of the mrna vaccines is likely on par with the flu shot and declining.

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