Can we have a forum that harbors free thinking, civil, Canadian patriots, and focuses on IMPORTANT THINGS, like culture, family, social issues, etc, rather than just trash talking people because of their party affiliation? For the past few days, all I've been reading about on this forum is someone complaining about someone else, and I wish there were more posts that are relevant to the current events going on in our country and in the world.
The latter is the reason I came to this forum (because of the msm's censorship), and it was ok at first, but now, it's all just petty bickering. If I could make a similar forum,(but without all the TRASHTALKING), I would, but I don't currently have the ability to do so.
People. Put aside your differences of skin color and realize that there is only one race - THE HUMAN RACE, and we are currently locked in a battle between freedom and slavery, Good vs Evil, unity vs division.
Can we all just TRY to be more civil, forgiving and loving, as God wants us to be? Remember, you can PEACEFULLY AGREE TO DISAGREE. (Edit: meh. what's the point in saying this? No matter where you go on the internet, there'll always be people who can't keep their cool)
I realize that this is just an online thing, that everyone's opinions and beliefs vary, and people will never agree 100%, but we should be able to RESPECTFULLY and APPROPRIATELY discuss and debate on a CIVIL platform.
OmegaCanada is not the forum it used to be a few months ago. I believe we need a different forum, one that focuses on sharing different sides of the story, one that allows for peaceful debate and civil discussion. No more trash talking (specifically just because you don't like the person). Yes, point out if someone is blatantly disrespectful, or making derogatory comments about a certain culture or group of people, but do so respectfully, and don't let it become the entire purpose of your being.
Edit : Perhaps the way I worded this isn't great, and it can be interpreted in multiple ways. But when I say be civil/respectful, I'm not saying that you can't disagree with me. As I said before, you can PEACEFULLY AGREE TO DISAGREE. But straight up complaining and trash talking people about people like Ham, not so great. I don't necessarily agree with Ham 100%, but I respect his right to express his opinion, and I don't name call him because he dislikes the PPC.
^That's what I'm trying to say. I've noticed alot of people trashing Ham. But this is a reminder that if you trash talk about people like Ham JUST BECAUSE you don't like him, then you are no better than those who want to censor you.
My bad. I get a bit off topic, so I apologize for going all over the place. Also, for the record, I'm not too good with words, so, while I tried to express my thoughts as clearly as I could, I understand that some of you might not take it the way it was intended to be interpreted.
These people started as soon Max split off from the CPC. They turned metacanada into a toxic warzone and they've made sure this place was a toxic warzone ever since I launched it.
By taking the farthest right fringes of the conservative base with him, Max tapped the most vile, radical, toxic group of people available to him (basically the right's version of radical SJWs), and now they've all concentrated here. If you think it's possible to have polite forum with these people around, you're sadly mistaken.
Most over generalized garbage ever...
How can you take like, 40 users, absolutely reprehensible comments... And assume the Whole PPC movement is being driven by racism?
You're right, there is a HUGE problem...
Its called being PPC prejudiced...
And I know you're gonna come at me from an agro angle like you always do, but I've been around for years on Metacanada, and I came here when you first offered a chance...
And I'm always fuckin respectful of others opinions, and especially yours, even though you have no respect for me, because I'm a PPCer...
Do you see rule 2 on the sidebar?
The identitarianism is in there because if you advertise yourself as a space for "white pride", "white rights" type content, you get overrun with white supremacists because that their language.
Metacanada wasn't a place for racial identitarianism, this forum by extension is not a place for racial identitarianism and that's not ever going to change. Keep that "white pride worldwide" shit on 4chan.
Seriously? That's how you're choosing to interpret what I said?
Racial identitarianism is fucking cancer. It's cancer when they do it and it's cancer when we do it. That's why it's against the rules for anyone to do it here. And that's not going to change.
Find more constructive ways to address these issues than just stooping to their level and embracing racial identitarianism. Because that exactly what they want you to do.
*Those are just my thoughts. I'm a nobody. I'm just a person trying to get informed, but finds it hard to do so on a platform full of people who can't be civil
Omega and Meta Canada had this going on. You may have missed it as the length of time these squabbles have been lasting has increased... drastically over the past year.
The way I see it, the identitarians want us to focus on identity (i.e. race, sexuality etc) in order to segregate our society into us vs them.
We are currently in a war of left vs right. The left want us to make it racial, sexual etc... i.e. identity.
There are plenty of non-white, non-straight conservatives out there. By making this a racial issue we are alienating a good portion of the conservative supporters that we need in order to win.
As soon as we start playing the racial/sexual/identity angle then we are playing their game where the rules are all set up against us.
Instead we should be decrying the focus on identity and instead focus on non-identitarian issues and argue the point and not the man.
I think this is what u/Ham_Sandwich77 is trying to achieve and explain to people.
We should not give a shit about the race or other characteristics of people. Instead we should be focusing on their beliefs and ideas.
There are plenty of white people who don't support conservatism. There are plenty of non-white people who do support conservatism.
It's ideas that matter, not the identity of the person who expresses those ideas.
If you want to focus on identity then you are no different from the leftist identitarians.
We will never win by playing the identity game. We win with better ideas.
Edit: A few words.
I'm a woman and I feel alienated too. They shit talk women a lot here as well.
Good stuff. Looking forward to it
Are you new to the internet? The internet was practically developed specifically for name-calling and arguing. That's what people do best so it's what we double-down on.
If I could add one thing to potentially change your mind I would argue that name-calling / arguing is actually quite healthy and should be encouraged. Healthy debate with a little bit of jibber-jabber is how humans should communicate. Can it get tiring? Sure. But that doesn't mean we need an all new forum. Say what you will about u/Ham_Sandwich77 but the guy put a ton of time in working with TD when they separated to get us this forum at all, never mind all of the time he spends moderating and cleaning shit up. I appreciate it at least.
A forum without name-calling and arguing and safe spaces already exists....it's called Reddit. : /
You are free to post virtually any opinion you want here so long as it doesn't violate the law. Most people are not going to downvote, censor, or attack you personally for it. That already makes it one of the most civil places on the internet.
The issue with these calls for "civility" and "putting aside our differences" is that they often come with ulterior motives of censorship. You don't want your ideas to be challenged or mocked so anybody who does this is being "disrespectful". Anybody who holds a view you disagree with is being "inappropriate". We should all come together but only on your terms. We can all agree on views which conveniently align with your views and all others can be discarded as "uncivil"".
The reason you struggle to find an alternative forum is that others have enforced "civility" that gradually escalated to censorship.
It's the pleas of a third world refugee explaining why their new host nation needs to be more like the violent shithole they just fled from.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
^It's true, at the same time, if you are the one going around trash talking people you disagree with, then you need to take a step back and look at yourself in the mirror.
As well we are all African. The more you learn about evolution the more you see racial differences as trivial. Or Carl Sagan's great soliloquy, A Pale Blue Dot.
— Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994
troll moar
Eugenics ≠ Natural/sexual selection
Polytheistic histories merged into monotheism ≠ literal word of God
Natural selection is observably real in countless ways, we know evolution isn't just bunk.
But evolution can't explain many things, such as the origin of life itself, or complex biological structures, good example being feathers.
Feathers are incredibly more complex than they appear, and the animals that use them have whole series of other characteristics related to having them.
Just because you believe in God doesn't mean you can't also believe that evolution or parts of the theory of evolution aren't real.
If God wants to allow living things to evolve he's going to do it despite anything you or I say.
I don't think feathers are 'unexplainable' so much as we don't have the full picture of the evolutionary process
Birds descended from ancient reptiles (Dinosaurs) that lived soo long ago that there are likely numerous intermediary species that we are unable to find in the fossil record.
Humans have been on earth in present form for ~200k years.
Dinosaurs lived on earth for over 150 million years. That's a ridiculous amount of time that is nearly unfathomable when you look at how many generations of offspring that amount of time would allow for. Not to mention that their descendants continued to evolve from 65 million years ago through the present day.
Agreed, I also believe feathers evolved, and there is likely some fossil or otherwise preserved intermediary between scales and feathers waiting for discovery.
HOWEVER after already discovering a ridiculous amount feathers and scales we have no intermediary. It's also difficult to imagine what that intermediary creature would look like given that it takes an additional series of complex traits simultaneously aligned with the already extremely complex feather.
Other people could reasonably point to feathers as evidence of Simulation Theory.
I think it's God allowing his complex universe to do complex things.
They key point I would like to iterate is when we are talking about a length of time that is so enormous, coupled with the small percentage of creatures that are preserved after death, it is very likely that we will never have anything close to the 'complete' fossil record.
When we are talking evolution, we are talking about small cumulative changes over large spans of time. Because of the ridiculous amount of time that has passed from the first bio genesis to current day, it's almost a guarantee that the majority of the physical record of ancient creatures is non-existent.
Radiation is pretty undeniable, and it allows us to measure the age of things quite precisely.
But who knows maybe you're right, I'm sure I'm wrong on lots, and I'm no scientist.
We're not going to change each others mind on this, but we can be patriots together anyway.
You've checkmated me!
This forum is an offshoot of the incredibly toxic The_Donald.
It was never going to be a respectful place.
Because Barosa cucked out and shutdown MetaCanada
Lol faggot