I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone thinks these vaccines are ga solution to this pandemic.
They keep covid patients out of the hospital. As of October 10 the large majority of people in Ontario hospitals with covid are from the minority of people who are not vaccinated.
why are more people dying now than were this time last year
More people infected, and variants which are worse than the original virus.
On Oct 5 2020 there were 168,960 cases. On Oct 5 2021 there were 1,657,262 - ten times as many - (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/), and in the interim some variants of concern have appeared which have a higher transmission rate and cause a more severe infection.
On Oct 5 2020 there were 168,960 cases. On Oct 5 2021 there were 1,657,262 - ten times as man
You fucking retard. That's total cases, ever. Of course there's going to have been more cases a year later if you're counting them all cumulatively. That's how basic addition works.
The metric that matters for how well the vaccine is preventing spread is how many new cases are appearing each day, and right now we're getting 3,735 new cases a day, whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 2,145 a day.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
And if in two months (December) the death rate will be considerable lower than in 2020, will you make a post that the vaccines are working? In December 2020 about 100 to 120 people every day died due to Covid and we had a vaccination rate of 0%.
But we know that you won't make that post. Kinda funny to see you make the same points as the anti-vaxx PPCtards you banned.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day
It's not and you know that. You can see how effective or ineffective the vaccine is if you compare the outcomes. How many people die while they are fully vaccinated vs. not vaccinated and compare that to the overall vaccination rate. Alberta for example publishes that data.
You're right. I wasn't comparing the two snapshots correctly.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
Look at it this way then: we have 70% more cases per day of more transmissible and virulent versions of the virus, while only 60% more deaths.
You aren't one of these people who think the vaccines should be 100% effective against catching the virus, are you? It's a global pandemic after all. People are gonna die.
Yup.
almost every government has been lying about numbers from the start, and using a PCR test which doenst measure sickness as per creator Kary Mullins. (but does give a 90% false positive rate since we use 40+ cycle threshold testing)
Isreal and UK numbers seem more accurate, they are actually measuring cases among the vaxxed. US and Canada are NOT counting cases among vaxxed - they are intentionally NOT marking it down, and/or marking down anyone jabbed within 14 days of dying as unvaxxed - and then claiming its all the filthy unvaxxed causing cases. - easy to fake numbers when you simply dont count them.
The numbers are all lies - things are far worse than being told. And this winter, with cold/flu season arriving, and compromised immune systems all over - it is going to be very bad for a lot of people.
They keep covid patients out of the hospital. As of October 10 the large majority of people in Ontario hospitals with covid are from the minority of people who are not vaccinated.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
Then why are more people dying now than were this time last year when we had a 0% vaccination rate?
https://i.imgur.com/ZaLUzXh.png
More people infected, and variants which are worse than the original virus.
On Oct 5 2020 there were 168,960 cases. On Oct 5 2021 there were 1,657,262 - ten times as many - (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/), and in the interim some variants of concern have appeared which have a higher transmission rate and cause a more severe infection.
You fucking retard. That's total cases, ever. Of course there's going to have been more cases a year later if you're counting them all cumulatively. That's how basic addition works.
The metric that matters for how well the vaccine is preventing spread is how many new cases are appearing each day, and right now we're getting 3,735 new cases a day, whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 2,145 a day.
The metric that matters how well the vaccine is preventing infected people from dying is the number of covid deaths per day, and right now we're at 36 deaths a day whereas on 9 Oct 2020 we were at 23 deaths a day.
https://media.omegacanada.win/post/h12ug31B.png
And if in two months (December) the death rate will be considerable lower than in 2020, will you make a post that the vaccines are working? In December 2020 about 100 to 120 people every day died due to Covid and we had a vaccination rate of 0%.
But we know that you won't make that post. Kinda funny to see you make the same points as the anti-vaxx PPCtards you banned.
It's not and you know that. You can see how effective or ineffective the vaccine is if you compare the outcomes. How many people die while they are fully vaccinated vs. not vaccinated and compare that to the overall vaccination rate. Alberta for example publishes that data.
https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes
You're right. I wasn't comparing the two snapshots correctly.
Look at it this way then: we have 70% more cases per day of more transmissible and virulent versions of the virus, while only 60% more deaths.
You aren't one of these people who think the vaccines should be 100% effective against catching the virus, are you? It's a global pandemic after all. People are gonna die.
I love how you always believe these numbers haha so naive
Yup. almost every government has been lying about numbers from the start, and using a PCR test which doenst measure sickness as per creator Kary Mullins. (but does give a 90% false positive rate since we use 40+ cycle threshold testing)
Isreal and UK numbers seem more accurate, they are actually measuring cases among the vaxxed. US and Canada are NOT counting cases among vaxxed - they are intentionally NOT marking it down, and/or marking down anyone jabbed within 14 days of dying as unvaxxed - and then claiming its all the filthy unvaxxed causing cases. - easy to fake numbers when you simply dont count them.
The numbers are all lies - things are far worse than being told. And this winter, with cold/flu season arriving, and compromised immune systems all over - it is going to be very bad for a lot of people.