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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

Do you remember the moral panic when a 10 year old died with covid in the States, conveniently just before they were about to approve the vaxx for kids. Then you saw a picture of him and he was about 200 pounds. Since most parents do no allow their kids to become this fat most kids are not at risk. But instead of instilling some responsibility and common sense in people no one will criticize those parents who let their kids become this obese and instead they ram dangerous and almost untested vaccines to prevent a risk that for most people does not exist.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am not going to endlessly debate you. But your whole point about people who have died is another fallacy. Very few people have actually died of covid. Most people died with covid. Covid is a very low fatality illness.

The notorious examples of people getting hit by cars or shot to death being listed as covid deaths exemplify the problem in how these things are classified. In most cases the person who died with covid was dying of something else anyway including cancer or other chronic illnesses such as obesity or being very old. The average age for covid deaths is 84, past the average life expectancy.

In fact, in my jurisdiction they used to publish the ages of everyone who died. The most common age here was in the 90s and 100s. I never knew we had so many people in their hundreds. But let's be honest, their time was up anyway. Whether covid got them or the flu, they were not going to live long. There is no reason for the sake of extending their lives for a few months to turn society into a medical apartheid state where the unvaxxed are excluded from jobs, travel and public places.

Now I want you to remember this exchange in a few years time when you have cancer or have developed some neurological disease like MS: the vaxx did that to you. Enjoy.

Also: as far as telling it to the healtcare workers, I would like to tell those insufferable twerking nurses on tiktok and twitter to fuck off and go take care of some patients. Nothing says I am sorry you lost your grandma like doing a sexy dance in scrubs. Insufferable narcissists who should not be in the profession.

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are setting up straw men arguments, much like the chart you posted.

I am saying that 1 vaxx shot actually increases the risk of hospitalizations. By including one vaxx in the unvaccinated category you are polluting the data and making it meaningless. I am having trouble finding the study I refer to but in any event that the fact that the two subsets are not differentiated makes the "unvaccinated" catch all meaningless. No proper medical study would confound what are two different categories of patients. Find me a chart that breaks it down between zero doses and 1 dose and I think you will see a sharp difference.

So you want to count a jab that is too old to be effective as still good somehow? That doesn't make sense.

By your logic we should include anyone whose last vaccination is over 6 months old in the unvaxxed category since its effects wear off and even the government is now saying there is no such thing as fully vaxxed, just up-to-date, which will soon enough be 4 and more vaxxes.

What complications? And more importantly: what is their overall effect compared to the damage caused by the virus?

https://rupreparing.com/news/2022/6/29/moderna-vaccine-increases-myocarditis-risk-by-44-times-in-young-adults-peer-reviewed-study

The excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest surpassed the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group in both Pfizer and Moderna trials (2.3 and 6.4 per 10,000 participants, respectively).: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4125239

More and more it turns out that the vaxxes arent that safe. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-sharply-limits-use-of-johnson-johnson-shot-due-to-rare-blood-clots/ar-AAWXMNi?cvid=3f49d917f9544722a70771c8c34cae60 Small consolation for the people who took the Jand J shot. And don't think that Pfizer or Moderna are better. There are huge problems with how they ran their initial studies. You'll see.

And then you have more and more studies showing that the vaxx causes dangerous complications. Each of these complications is described as rare, but cumulatively there are a lot of possible problems https://www.journal-of-hepatology.eu/article/S0168-8278(22)00234-3/fulltext

Yes SADS has been around, but it is becoming much more noticeable now. This is only beginning. Like smoking,asbestos and radiation not all lethal substances cause death immediately.

Even Pfizer for its Crominarty vaccine (the only fda approved version of their covid vaccine) discloses that they do not know if the vaccine causes cancer or aggravates existing cancers. In the absence of proof of safety why take this shit when your risk of death is about .02 percent.

I have had covid. I am not that young. It was a miserable 2 weeks but no serious damage. Take some vitamin d, c and zinc and you will be fine.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

These kinds of statistics are self serving and skewed.

Notice that there is no category for people with one vaxx shot. They are included in the unvaxxed category. Yet studies indicate that if you have one shot and get covid you are actually at greater risk of complications. So they are inflating the numbers of complications for being unvaxxed by including those people who have been put at greater risk by getting one vaxx. Whereas if they has actually been completely unvaxxed they might have been fine.

Secondly unvaxxed includes people with 2 doses if they contract covid within 14 days of the last vaccination. Again, it is fudging the numbers. Were they put at greater risk because of the vaxx? There should be a separate category for people with 1 jab or 2 but who got covid within 14 days.

Finally, these statistics are meaningless if they do not consider over all mortality and hospitalizations. As a thought experiment, let's say that inhaling asbestos saved your from dying of covid - but you ended up dead from asbestos. These statistics ignore the complications of the vaxx and given the fact that in all jurisdictions excess mortality not due to covid is up, and given the fact that we are now dealing with Sudden Adult Death Syndrome you need to consider that even if the vaccinated experience fewer serious complications from covid they may, and in fact likely are, experiencing other problems which are completely ignored in this chart.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Kind of late, after so many of their members were forced out of their jobs and lost their pensions. Or caved in due to economic necessity. I know one postal worker who had one vaxx, thought better of it and was going to refuse the second but then economic reality forced her to cave in and take the second dose. Her union did nothing. This is like closing the proverbial barn door after the horses have left.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isnt it sad that something as great as the vaccines has been spoiled by global warming and Putin. Plus the Freedom convoy. /s

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does this mean that if I go on vacation out of Canada - now that I can finally fly - I still have to get a covid test? And would I get it in Canada or before I board the return flight?

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

But he identifies as metis! Stop mis-racializing him.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now do the other universities across Canada and the vaccine mandates for planes, trains and ships.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or more likely a disinformation ploy by our side to discredit anyone who questions the vaxx narrative by labeling them a dupe of the Russians.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

People are scared to donate to the charity funding the legal challenge to the use of the Emergencies Act. From the government's perspective this is a good thing. In fact they would like people to be scared off from anything that might get them on a list.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is true. I thought that was shameful of a minister. Virtue signalling instead of diplomacy. Great idea to piss off the other side when they have the stronger position.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't she Jewish? I am guessing she just had no clue what the banner says

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nothing there. Link is broken.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dark winter for real. Never thought it would get so bad so fast.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not a bad idea but my woketard government has passed rules that say I can't get on a plane without the vaxx. And its a long drive to Tiajuana

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

No exemption for religious reasons according to the government, and they certainly will not issue a card based on that: https://winnipegsun.com/news/news-news/springs-church-offers-religious-exemptions-for-vaccines

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Kronder12 8 points ago +8 / -0

Until you die of myocarditis or other fun stuff. I don't fault anyone if they want to voluntarily get it. No one should be forced to. I choose not too.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

You missed the part about looking for a legal option.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is not about religion but not wanting to get myocarditis and other shit.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

No need to be snarky. The fact is doctors are refusing to even consider the issue.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

True. It's said how every news outlet and govt official is repeating this number without question and now churches are being arsoned because of the propaganda. Plus, even if these numbers are there, there is no indication they were murdered but they are making that suggestion. Given the high mortality in those days and the fact that the school operated for over 100 years. we are talking about 2 deaths a year roughly.

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