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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

The city of Kamloops starts right after the bridge. That's a kilometer. You added another two to get through the whole city.

https://imgur.com/EurWssd.png

Also, 3.4 km in 45 minutes is walking not running.

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RightOfSask 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because no one is buying them.

Same reason why Ford isn't selling any sedans in the US anymore.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spanish Flu wiped-out ENTIRE Haida settlements on the western coast of British Columbia

While it's true that the Spanish Flu had a bigger impact on the First Nations, I want to see prove that it wiped out "entie Haida settlements". According to the provincial government of BC around 800 to 1,200 First Nation members died during the Spanish Flu.

People were too sick or afraid to go out and there were quarantines.

And after the quarantine? Why didn't the agent for the reserve write the provincial or federal government about it?

All I claimed was that moving 200 bodies during a pandemic over a 100 years ago with no cars, no trucks, through the snow could not have happened in the time you're citing you could RUN the distance today.

????? What?

The school is a kilometer away from the city. A KILOMETER. That is not a big distance. Someone can walk backwards a kilometer within 15 minutes.

and has more proof than the cause of death and timeline than YOU have proposed; which was: .... NOTHING.

I already "proposed" causes and timelines of death. While you are arguing that these kids died all at once, I already stated that these kids were buried over decades.

A) 200+ kids buried over decades and nobody remembers B) 200+ First Nations malnourished kids died of Spanish Flu in 3 - 7 days.

Scenario A is more likely. And here is the proof. When I looked up the Spanish Flu deaths on First Nation reserves in BC you can find numbers between 800 and 1,200. I asked myself, surely 200 dead First Nation kids would have been quite the story. The indian agent would have written the provincial government about it. There should be letters. If not in the archives of the school, they should in the archives of the provincial government. And there are letters from the residential school in Kamloops to the provincial and federal government.

From May 1921:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00573.jpg

A request for money for the 5 extra students which were admitted to the school, because their parents died to the Flu. They also state how many children are currently at the school. 60 children are currently at the school.

Next letter is from October 1921:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00593.jpg

Students at the school: 68

Letter from the principal of the school, October 1922:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00653.jpg

The principal writes the Super Intendant about plans to expand the school. And that a school with enough place for less than 250 would be a mistake.

Letter from November 3rd 1922:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00652.jpg

The Deputy Super Intendant of BC thanks the principal for the numbers.

Letter from December 1925:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00613.jpg

The school now houses over 135 students. The government gives the OK to expand it to 150.

Letter from May 1926:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00661.jpg

A third wing is being built to accomodate even more students.

Letter from March 1930:

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00706.jpg

The school is now home to 275 students.


As you can see, the school wasn't home to 200 students during the Spanish Flu epidemic. It house 60 to 80 students at that time. Only after the pandemic the school was expanded to about 150 students by 1925, 275 students by 1930. It peaked at over 500 students in the 1950.

200 kids couldn't have died during the Spanish Flu at the school, because the school didn't even have that many students. There is even a letter from a nun to the federal government where she "thanks the lord for the remedies which helped the kids during the epidemic". Speak, these kids at the school didn't die from the Spanish Flu.

https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00570.jpg

There was no former hospital. The school had only 60 students during the Spanish Flu pandemic. You two scenarios don't have any merit.

They could not speak a common language to discover names.

Kids got new names in residential schools as a way to integrate them in European society. Look up the official records of deaths at residential schools. They all have European sounding names.

And we all know now that the best way to keep them down was to pay them to live on Reserves to keep the dirty injuns in their place of their own free will.

They weren't paid. They were forced to live on these reserves.

Maybe. But if so, then what? Speculate about WHY and WHEN the died?

You are speculating. From "former hospitals" to "200 kids dead in 3 days because of the Spanish Flu". Not a single theory of yours holds ground. All you have is hot air. You provided absolutely no proof for any of your claims.

I want those sites dug. It is the only way to discover the truth.

The RCMP is already investigating the site. Just be aware, the average time till a human bones decompose to dust is about 80 years.

Also, you don't want the truth. If you wanted the truth you wouldn't make up impossible stories.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

The school a just a kilometer away from the city of Kamloops. You can run the distance in 5 minutes.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because if so, you are delusional, multiracial societies don't work, never have.

The most powerful country with the most powerful military has a multiracial society.

You have no issues calling the Liberals in Canada racist for making everything about race, but on the other hand you want to deport non-white people from Canada. You're not better than these race baiting idiots on the left.

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RightOfSask 2 points ago +4 / -2

How does it feel to know that people here will make fun of you?

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RightOfSask 0 points ago +1 / -1

Only for you babe.

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RightOfSask 2 points ago +3 / -1

Like anyone cares.

His website was an utter failure.

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RightOfSask -4 points ago +3 / -7

which do exist, it would just be a lot of work to dig them out of non-digital archives

They don't in most cases, especially documents for time before 1960 were destroyed en masse.

"The number of students who died at Canada’s residential schools is not likely ever to be known in full. The most serious gap in information arises from the incompleteness of the documentary record. Many records have simply been destroyed. According to a 1935 federal government policy, school returns could be destroyed after five years, and reports of accidents after ten years. This led to the destruction of fifteen tonnes of waste paper. Between 1936 and 1944, 200,000 Indian Affairs files were destroyed. Health records were regularly destroyed. For example, in 1957, Indian and Northern Health Services was instructed to destroy “correspondence re routine arrangements re medical and dental treatments of Indians and Eskimos, such as transportation, escort services, admission to hospital, advice on treatment, requests for treatment, etc.” after a period of two years. Reports by doctors, dentists, and nurses were similarly assigned a two-year retention period."

https://chaireconditionautochtone.fss.ulaval.ca/doc/Publication/Honouring-the-truth-reconciling-for-the-future-01.pdf

Were the graves really unmarked? Or were they marked with wood crosses or wood markings that may have been removed ...

This residential school is 5 minutes away from the city center of Kamloops. If there ever was a graveyard with wooden crosses behind the school, people would know of it.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was there a Church on site at one time? Did it burn?

There is and was a church on site and it didn't burn down.

If those remains are of children from the Kamloops Residential School, this is the most probable event which killed them.

It's not, because the mortality rate of school aged children to the Spanish flu was the lowest of all age groups. The mortality rate of children aged 5 to 19 was about 20 to 30 per 100,000. It was the deadliest for adults (20 to 50) with a death rate of over 1,000 per 100,000 (more than 20 times than the mortality rate for kids) and really old people 65+.

Next you're going to say Covid is really deadly for children.

If 200 people died in a residence in a 3 day period, "documenting" would be the least of your worries.

IF IF IF ... Look. 200 deaths during the Spanish Flu would mean that almost all kids in the school died within a 3 day period. Do you really think that no one would know about this? That no one would ask about the 200 dead kids within 3 days? That no one would write about? Not a priest, not a nun, not a reporter, not a city employee, not a staff member? You might be delusional if you believe that. Especially if you combine it with low mortality rate for children regarding the Spanish Flu.

I guarantee that 5 or 10 people transporting 200 bodies could not ...

And I guarantee you that these 200 kids didn't die within 3 days. You pull out these almost impossible theories out of your ass and speculate about them. Maybe there was an asteroid which hit the school and killed everyone? Who knows? Am I right?

Somehow you think that 200 kids died in a short time span 5 minutes away from the city center of Kamloops and yet nobody knows something about it.

In the days before SuperStore and cars and refrigerator trucks and refrigerators? Absolutely! They had dozens of mouths to feed every day.

Show me one document that shows that schools slaughtered live stock on school premises? Just one and I will believe you.

Another point where this argument falls flat is that radar they used to locate the mass grave, was used to locate coffins and not bones. Do you think that after slaughtering the livestock the remnants of these animals were buried in coffins? Are you retarded?

Your narrative is troubling; you keep claiming the bodies were "hidden" and they are "hiding something" - that something "intentionally wrong" happened and as a result 200+ undocumented bodies are buried.

It was hidden. The school was run by the Catholic Church. An institution which has no issues documenting every body which is buried on their cemeteries, but as soon as they are at fault for something (be it pedophile priests or deaths at residential schools) they lack any documentation. And yet somehow you give this institution the benefit of doubt. It wouldn't be the first time or even a surprise if the Catholic Church hid these dead children, like with any other of their failures.

Catholic Church built the first hospitals in Canada. If the Residential School was built on a former hospital site

It wasn't. There was no hospital prior to the school.

SCENARIO 2 The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918–20 killed 200+ students in 2 or 3 days.

Funny how the Spanish Flu killed almost all children of a school though the mortality rate for school aged children was the lowest of all groups.

Here is the most likely scenario and not these made-up stories of yours:

Over several decades over 200 kids died at this residential school in Kamloops. Due to abuse, lack of care, starvation and sicknesses. The staff of the school and the Catholic Church didn't care about these death. They buried these kids in the backyard of the school like garbage, without any documentation. And now we have an undocumented mass grave behind the school.

You can even see how much the Catholic Church cared about the children if you look up the official documentation of deaths at residential schools. Most of the time they didn't even name the kids. All they wrote down how many kids died within a year., but no names and no ages. The Catholic Church and the Canadian government just didn't care about these "savages".

You're making excuses up for a time were even the Prime Minister of Canada wrote letters to his peers that keeping the First Nations on the brink of starvation and moving them to far away communities without arable land is the best way to keep them down. Yet somehow it's not the most likely scenario for you that the Canadian government and the Catholic Church just didn't care about the kids in residential school and that this is the reason why we now have mass graves behind residential schools.

I bet this will be only the beginning. Now the feds will search for these graves on the premises of other residential schools. And they will find them.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

The only redpill here is that what you want to happen, will never happen.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did they DO documentation of grave sites back in the day?

You are talking about the Catholic Church. They have documentation of all other cemeteries all over Canada. I can go to my local Catholic Church and they will pull out a book with every single soul they buried in their yard since 1700.

This school is not that old. It closed in 1978. That's 43 years ago. People who went to this school are still alive today. And you're telling me "well, maybe they didn't have any documentation back in the day and the wooden markers disintegrated". You could make the argument when the school closed 300 years ago and not 40 years ago.

But, in what year was a death first reported?

In 1914 the school reported the first death.

5 minutes away from Kamloops in the SUMMER in a CAR

The school is a kilometer away from Kamloops. You can literally run the distance between the school and the city hall in Kamloops in ten minutes or even less. You didn't either bother to look up the location.

If you didn't go to that Church, you didn't get buried there. Many people still got buried on their own land in 1900

The Catholic Church took the kids away to make then Christian. They were Christian in the eyes of the Catholic Church.

and not animal bones buried after slaughter on-site for food

What? On-site slaughtering of animals for food? What are these theories. You really think that the staff of the school was slaughtering pigs and cows for meat on school premises?

not a sudden murder of every student attendiong

People don't talk about "the sudden murder of every student attending". Thousands of kids went to this school. And a lot of these former students are still alive today.

People talk about not caring. That the staff didn't care that the kids got sick. They didn't care to provide help. That they didn't provide enough food. They didn't care to document the deaths. They didn't care to inform the parents. And then they hid the bodies in the backyard of the school like nothing happened.

Do you really think that the former students which are still alive today wouldn't know about a graveyard on school properties?

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +2 / -1

You currently live in a home you did not build and you drink wine from the grapes you didn't grow. The only reason you hang on to your white identity is because you failed at everything else. It's the last thing you have but it's something no one wants to share with you.

We all meet our maker, and you will surely meet yours.

We all do. But contrary to you, I won't be alone when the time comes.

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RightOfSask -1 points ago +1 / -2

We can both get a new username. Your will just end with 1488.

you'll never get it off.

We don't need to get it off, because we already won. As we did in every other war when "whites" woke up. Next time won't be different. You lost and now you have to face the pathetic excuse your life is.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +1 / -0

What's so hard to understand about that, they have other priorities, doesn't mean they don't care though

If they don't care enough for, then it doesn't matter what their stance is.

As for the Whites

"Whites". I can ask a German, a Frog, an Italian and a Russian what "whites" are and everybody would give me a different definition. 40 years ago Eastern Europeans weren't white enough for Canada. Maybe we should send these back first to fix our demographic shift.

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RightOfSask 0 points ago +3 / -3

And you're are parroting the same narrative you can find in 1000 threads daily on /pol. Nothing new, nothing original. Always the same crap about white blood.

Dude, half a century ago Slavs weren't even considered to be white enough for Canada. Maybe we should get rid of them first.

they no longer say they are "Nigerian"

They do.

WHITE PEOPLE DONT EXIST SEE!!!

They do, but everything for you has to be hyperbolic. You can screech about it as much as you want, but you wouldn't even fit the definition of a white person in the world you want to live in.

You can't take pride in things you didn't do!

True.

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RightOfSask 0 points ago +1 / -1

You promise a big handout but also happen to be pro-immigration? Sure, you'll likely get the vote.

Harper didn't promise big handouts and yet he was still voted in three times while he increased immigration levels each time. Chretien and Martin pushed austerity and cut a lot of social programs and yet they were voted in while increasing immigration levels.

Immigration isn't something Canadians worry about before elections, during elections or after elections.

It's not a me vs. everyone. Whether other Whites realize it or not it is an us vs. them. That's why they complain about whites saying they don't see race and our colorblind

You complain about it. And they few you see in your social media bubble.

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RightOfSask -2 points ago +1 / -3

The people of the past didn't want it either

They voted for someone who increased the immigration levels. Then they voted for another guy who increased it even more. And then they voted another one in who increased it even more. Followed by ten more guys who did the same.

And you want to tell me that they didn't want that?

Just like now when polled people want less immigration

If it was so important to people, they would vote someone in who promises less immigration. But guess what, people don't care about that as much as you want them to.

It is an us and them thing.

It's a you vs everyone else thing. And that's why you will always lose.

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RightOfSask 7 points ago +7 / -0

The coffee row in the next town over with a population of less than 2000.

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RightOfSask -2 points ago +1 / -3

There is, but you don't want to be a part of it.

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +4 / -3

Canadians used to mean White

It never meant white.

It meant English. It meant French. It meant German. It meant Irish. It meant Ukrainian. It meant Polish.

We never celebrated our white heritage. We celebrated and celebrate our English heritage. Or German, French, Sottish, Irish and so on.

We had and have our own culture.

And you still have it. French culture is alive in Canada. English culture is alive in Canada. German culture is alive as is Ukrainian. Canadian culture is all of that.

are not the same as actual people from France and England

But they have the same core identity.

so we're stuck with "White"

You are stuck with white, because you want to make it a "us vs them". You are not two cents better than the Liberals who make everything a race thing.

we had our countries taken away from us

We voted for this. Again and again and again. You have no one other to blame then yourself.

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RightOfSask 5 points ago +5 / -0

Where is our rainbow coloured CPC banner for pride month? They even posted one on Twitter. We should adopt it.

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